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It's Official

https://caasports.com/news/2022/1/24/foo...ADvYw5JxjE

Nice to make it official. I enjoy the following quote from Fry:

John Fry Wrote:This is a tremendous day for the CAA. I am profoundly grateful for the sustained engagement of our Presidents over the last 15 months, as together with our Athletics Directors we have forged a principled vision for the future in these turbulent times. To have these three highly-regarded universities embrace these same aspirational values for college athletics is deeply gratifying.

Certainly, I can imagine him pushing for Monmouth and Stony Brook. Both are quality programs (with lacrosse) at very good distances for Drexel, and help to push us to the geographic center of the conference.

caa made the front page of espn. president fry's quote is in there. a little exposure is an added bonus for the change.

(01-25-2022 12:34 PM)hiroshimacarp Wrote: [ -> ]caa made the front page of espn. president fry's quote is in there. a little exposure is an added bonus for the change.

And what do you know? There was no mention in the article of those big, bad monsters who run the CAA keeping those poor, innocent JMU athletes from competing. It just goes to show you that old news gets old really fast.

(01-25-2022 12:47 PM)J.B. Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-25-2022 12:34 PM)hiroshimacarp Wrote: [ -> ]caa made the front page of espn. president fry's quote is in there. a little exposure is an added bonus for the change.

And what do you know? There was no mention in the article of those big, bad monsters who run the CAA keeping those poor, innocent JMU athletes from competing. It just goes to show you that old news gets old really fast.

Eh. If you read their section about all of this realignment that was updated the other day and probably again today, it still called the the league out in it, it certainly was not just unbiased reporting. Top section within NCAA basketball is still nice for sure. I hope we are working on repairing past ills with ESPN.

i'm not worried about espn. they're probably making it bigger news because they want the ncaa to implode. that's a big news story.

i'm not saying the ncaa should implode. i haven't thought enough yet about that. they just like to get the ball rolling on destroying things...like they've destroyed the nba, mlb, etc.

Hating the empire is perfectly reasonable and valid, but its still the option to be associated with.

I assume the addition of 2 more teams will be next year? I am guessing UNCG and Fairfield?

(01-25-2022 04:08 PM)Dragon For Life Wrote: [ -> ]I assume the addition of 2 more teams will be next year? I am guessing UNCG and Fairfield?

I have to assume both will be in the south. There are already 7 "northern" teams and 5 "southern" teams. Towson or Delaware likely don't want to be in the Southern division.

Football and men's basketball get the most attention, but I took a look at how the teams might impact our other sports. I rated each program on a 5-point scale ranging from bottom feeder (1) to contender (5), based on the last 5 seasons.

• Men's Golf - Monmouth (3)
• Men's Lacrosse - Stony Brook (4), Monmouth (4), Hampton (1)
• Men's Soccer - Monmouth (2), Stony Brook (2)
• Men's Swimming - Monmouth (3)
• Men's Tennis - Monmouth (5), Hampton (1)
• Women's Basketball - Stony Brook (5), Hampton (3), Monmouth (2)
• Women's Field Hockey - Monmouth (5)
• Women's Lacrosse - Stony Brook (5), Monmouth (4)
• Women's Soccer - Monmouth (5), Stony Brook (4), Hampton (1)
• Women's Softball - Monmouth (4), Stony Brook (4), Hampton (3)
• Women's Swimming - Monmouth (3), Stony Brook (2)
• Women's Tennis - Monmouth (2), Hampton (1)
  

Monmouth adds sports in all of the above, with an average rating of 3.5. Stony Brook adds sports in 7 of the above 12, with an average rating of 3.7. Hampton adds sports in 6 of the above, with an average rating of 1.7.

Monmouth and Stony Brook will be solid teams in a lot of sports. Stony Brook should become a major rival for us in women's basketball, taking the place of JMU. The moves should also solidify CAA Lacrosse as one of the best conferences behind the ACC in both men's and women's lacrosse. It could be rough for Hampton men's lacrosse for a while... they just started their program, and are now jumping into a pretty tough conference.

(01-25-2022 04:15 PM)tribe_pride Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-25-2022 04:08 PM)Dragon For Life Wrote: [ -> ]I assume the addition of 2 more teams will be next year? I am guessing UNCG and Fairfield?

I have to assume both will be in the south. There are already 7 "northern" teams and 5 "southern" teams. Towson or Delaware likely don't want to be in the Southern division.

Do you think we will add 2 teams next year 2023?

I think we will still have one more northern team, guessing either Fairfield or Quinnipiac and then 3 southern teams for a 16 team conference, 2 8 team divisions.

(01-26-2022 07:33 AM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will still have one more northern team, guessing either Fairfield or Quinnipiac and then 3 southern teams for a 16 team conference, 2 8 team divisions.

How would having 16 teams in a 1 bid conference be a good thing? It would make each school's NCAA Tournament chances next to impossible. It's already hard to get there as it is. Would there be future plans to split into two separate conferences?

"D'Antonio not ready to commit to #CAAFB moving (back) to N/S divisions full-time, as has been reported and speculated with additions of Hampton, Monmouth. He did go so far as to confirm that CAA Football's regular-season schedule will continue to be comprised of 8 conf gms/team."

(01-26-2022 08:54 AM)J.B. Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2022 07:33 AM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will still have one more northern team, guessing either Fairfield or Quinnipiac and then 3 southern teams for a 16 team conference, 2 8 team divisions.

How would having 16 teams in a 1 bid conference be a good thing? It would make each school's NCAA Tournament chances next to impossible. It's already hard to get there as it is. Would there be future plans to split into two separate conferences?

I would assume that would be the endgame if we do go to 16. A CAA North and a CAA South as two separate conferences (called something different of course), with a shared CAA Football containing all of the original CAA teams.

It's pretty ambitious and I'm not sure the CAA has the chops to pull it off, which is why I personally think we'll end up capped at 14. But it's certainly an interesting possibility that would seem to give all the members what they want.

Consider the following "Acela Conference":

• Northeastern
• Fairfield
• Hofstra
• Stony Brook
• Monmouth
• Drexel
• Delaware
• Towson
  

That's a pretty nice conference for everyone, IMO, with the room to add Howard, Quinnipiac, Albany, and/or UMBC to get to 10 or even 12. A 16-team CAA would be the means to this end.

(01-26-2022 08:54 AM)J.B. Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2022 07:33 AM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will still have one more northern team, guessing either Fairfield or Quinnipiac and then 3 southern teams for a 16 team conference, 2 8 team divisions.

How would having 16 teams in a 1 bid conference be a good thing? It would make each school's NCAA Tournament chances next to impossible. It's already hard to get there as it is. Would there be future plans to split into two separate conferences?

I think that is the direction this is going and the guys have touched on it as a possibility. The new legislation will dictate the direction it goes. With the northern slant, these adds clearly shore up the possibility of the south leaving and not wrecking the conference. So now its in a secure place and can wait to see what parts move around while waiting to see what the NCAA decides. I do think the ultimate goal is to split.

If 14-16 is the ultimate goal, I think I'd like to see the league pause and get these three integrated and just go with 12 next year, allow some time for the changes coming to the NCAA to come a bit more in focus, get the new media deal ironed out and then see if all of that may shake some other candidates loose. If not, then you can circle back to some of the other names that have been floated during this current process.

(01-26-2022 03:09 PM)DrachenFire Wrote: [ -> ]If 14-16 is the ultimate goal, I think I'd like to see the league pause and get these three integrated and just go with 12 next year, allow some time for the changes coming to the NCAA to come a bit more in focus, get the new media deal ironed out and then see if all of that may shake some other candidates loose. If not, then you can circle back to some of the other names that have been floated during this current process.

I suspect that's exactly what's going on.

The CAA could live like this for a bit, knowing it's protected itself and just take a look again in the future.

I have a hunch Howard said no thanks. But that doesn't mean the landscape will be the same a year from now.

Agree. Build security, then let some things play out. Then finish building once the picture is actually clear. Going to a 16 team mega conference before the NCAA figures out how to eliminate all of the have nots is silly, at best.

(01-26-2022 08:54 AM)J.B. Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2022 07:33 AM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will still have one more northern team, guessing either Fairfield or Quinnipiac and then 3 southern teams for a 16 team conference, 2 8 team divisions.

How would having 16 teams in a 1 bid conference be a good thing? It would make each school's NCAA Tournament chances next to impossible. It's already hard to get there as it is. Would there be future plans to split into two separate conferences?

From what I am hearing.....yes.