IMO, as the hierarchy within the present-day P5 institutions becomes more pronounced there will be more interest in more schools that can narrow the gaps between leagues with different levels of resources.
What kind of rule changes could be legal that could do that?
Maybe it’s because I’m still hungover from this morning, but I just don’t understand the question.
But if you mean are there any laws or NCAA-rules that could minimize the advantage of teams like Alabama and Georgia? No, there aren’t any, and there won’t be any.
(01-01-2022 03:05 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe it’s because I’m still hungover from this morning, but I just don’t understand the question.
But if you mean are there any laws or NCAA-rules that could minimize the advantage of teams like Alabama and Georgia? No, there aren’t any, and there won’t be any.
Yeah totally agree. And the one that was made, to allow immediate eligibility, is if anything going to give them more of an advantage not less.
I would highly encourage anyone who calls themselves a fan to watch anything other the NCG. Show ESPN we’re sick of them and their darling SEC.
Tipping the scales towards the SEC is killing the sport everywhere else.
The SEC jealousy is just so delicious. It's not tipping the scales, the SEC is just that damn good. And it kills Big Ten fanboys and others.
You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
(01-01-2022 03:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
(01-01-2022 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
How?
(01-01-2022 03:18 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
How?
NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
(01-01-2022 03:10 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]I would highly encourage anyone who calls themselves a fan to watch anything other the NCG. Show ESPN we’re sick of them and their darling SEC.
Tipping the scales towards the SEC is killing the sport everywhere else.
How are the scales tipped?
(01-01-2022 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:18 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
How?
NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
(01-01-2022 03:22 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:18 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:14 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]You'd need large structural changes in my opinion.
Requiring autobids for every FBS conference would be a start. Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics could also help, maybe make the ceiling a percentage of the total overall spending across the FBS. And expanding the money that the CFP pays out to all conferences.
Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
How?
NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
(01-01-2022 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:22 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:18 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Limiting how much money could be spent on athletics is unconstitutional. Oh well.
How?
NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
(01-01-2022 03:24 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:22 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:18 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]How?
NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
(01-01-2022 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:24 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:22 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]NCAA tried to limit coaches salaries and it was struck down. We're in a free market system. They can't do anything.
There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
They can make their money and watch Bama win another championship. As a fan it's as boring as watching rocks though year in and year out
(01-01-2022 03:27 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:24 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:22 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]There's a way they could make it work. Instead of a hard cap they could just have a fee to exceed a limit so exorbitant it makes it not worth going over. If the NCAA truly has no control over things like that then folks are just gonna have to get used to Georgia and Bama being the champions from here on out cause they have too much money and power.
The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
They can make their money and watch Bama win another championship. As a fan it's as boring as watching rocks though year in and year out
Alabama would win championships no matter what they can legally do. Nothing the NCAA could do legally would impact that at all. Not until Saban retires.
(01-01-2022 03:31 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:27 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:24 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA has no control. Oh, and the SEC would not be the only group to vote against that BS Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC would vote against that BS.
Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
They can make their money and watch Bama win another championship. As a fan it's as boring as watching rocks though year in and year out
Alabama would win championships no matter what they can legally do. Nothing the NCAA could do legally would impact that at all. Not until Saban retires.
They're are absolutely ways the NCAA could work to make football a better game, which is what this whole thread is about. Saying that Bama is gonna win no matter what is just defeatism. It's just gonna take some harsher measures than some schools wouldn't like, but would make the game better overall.
If you're sick of SEC domination, your goal is to accelerate global warming. Make the South an equator-like brutality to live in while tropical paradises (and the bikinis) creep their way up north.
(01-01-2022 03:34 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:31 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:27 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:24 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]Glad to see the Big 10, PAC, ACC, and Big 12 would like to vote against their interest in such a way
Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
They can make their money and watch Bama win another championship. As a fan it's as boring as watching rocks though year in and year out
Alabama would win championships no matter what they can legally do. Nothing the NCAA could do legally would impact that at all. Not until Saban retires.
They're are absolutely ways the NCAA could work to make football a better game, which is what this whole thread is about. Saying that Bama is gonna win no matter what is just defeatism. It's just gonna take some harsher measures than some schools wouldn't like, but would make the game better overall.
There is nothing LEGALLY that the NCAA could do. We live in a free market system.
(01-01-2022 03:37 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:34 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:31 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:27 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2022 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Big Ten makes the same amount of money, and the P12, ACC, and B12 aren't going to do anything to limit things either.
It's NEVER happening.
They can make their money and watch Bama win another championship. As a fan it's as boring as watching rocks though year in and year out
Alabama would win championships no matter what they can legally do. Nothing the NCAA could do legally would impact that at all. Not until Saban retires.
They're are absolutely ways the NCAA could work to make football a better game, which is what this whole thread is about. Saying that Bama is gonna win no matter what is just defeatism. It's just gonna take some harsher measures than some schools wouldn't like, but would make the game better overall.
There is nothing LEGALLY that the NCAA could do. We live in a free market system.
The NCAA is a private corporation and the teams participate willingly. They absolutely can require bylaws, no matter what market system they're under. Otherwise how would the pros be able to do the exact same thing?