Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
(12-24-2021 05:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
Im not sure what they mean by "immunity". If they mean the ability to resist/avoid serious affects if infected--I absolutely expect that to likely be true. If they mean "immunity" in that you cant be infected at all by Covid---I know for a fact that's not the case for at least a substantial number of people. I personally know at least 2 family members who had the original Covid variant who are currently sick---both testing positive for Covid (I assume the Omicron variant) about a year after their first round. If I know two just within my family--that tells me there are probably substantial numbers of former Covid patients who can still be infected by the variants. That said----lets be clear that triple vaccinated folks are still more than capable of being infected.
(12-24-2021 05:34 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2021 05:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
Im not sure what they mean by "immunity". If they mean the ability to resist/avoid serious affects if infected--I absolutely expect that to likely be true. If they mean "immunity" in that you cant be infected at all by Covid---I know for a fact that's not the case for at least a substantial number of people. I personally know at least 2 family members who had the original Covid variant who are currently sick---both testing positive for Covid (I assume the Omicron variant) about a year after their first round. If I know two just within my family--that tells me there are probably substantial numbers of former Covid patients who can still be infected by the variants. That said----lets be clear that triple vaccinated folks are still more than capable of being infected.
Although there's no indication of it I assume he's speaking about immunity against whatever variant one might have?
This research is totally bogus. President Nostradamus Biden has already said we are going to have a winter of severe illnesses and death so we all need to brace for the grim reaper.
“ Editor’s note, Dec. 22, 2021: Since May 24, 2021, when this study was published, epidemiological data has shown that people who have recovered from COVID-19 can be reinfected with the virus and become sick again. This seems to be especially true with the delta and omicron variants. This study found that antibodies persist long after an infection, and those findings have been supported by subsequent research. But having antibodies does not automatically translate into indefinite protection from illness, particularly as new variants arise. Washington University recommends that everyone eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine get it and a booster – even if previously infected. Vaccination is the best protection against COVID-19.”
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-new...rotection/
So, would you stipulate that this is NOT a “vaccine”?
My Aunt had polio.
Haven’t known a soul since then that was afflicted, she was born around 1935 or so.
Vaccine* or post infection therapeutic?
(12-24-2021 10:29 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]“ Editor’s note, Dec. 22, 2021: Since May 24, 2021, when this study was published, epidemiological data has shown that people who have recovered from COVID-19 can be reinfected with the virus and become sick again. This seems to be especially true with the delta and omicron variants. This study found that antibodies persist long after an infection, and those findings have been supported by subsequent research. But having antibodies does not automatically translate into indefinite protection from illness, particularly as new variants arise. Washington University recommends that everyone eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine get it and a booster – even if previously infected. Vaccination is the best protection against COVID-19.”
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-new...rotection/
How many people do you know who have had Covid 2x? Anyone on here know someone who has been verified to have had it more than once? I’m sure it happens but it’s the reverse lottery. I’ve heard of some in the media but those ended up being testing issues.
I’ve had Covid. I’m strong like bull.
Is this publication peer-reviewed?
(12-25-2021 08:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2021 10:29 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]“ Editor’s note, Dec. 22, 2021: Since May 24, 2021, when this study was published, epidemiological data has shown that people who have recovered from COVID-19 can be reinfected with the virus and become sick again. This seems to be especially true with the delta and omicron variants. This study found that antibodies persist long after an infection, and those findings have been supported by subsequent research. But having antibodies does not automatically translate into indefinite protection from illness, particularly as new variants arise. Washington University recommends that everyone eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine get it and a booster – even if previously infected. Vaccination is the best protection against COVID-19.”
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-new...rotection/
How many people do you know who have had Covid 2x? Anyone on here know someone who has been verified to have had it more than once?
I’m sure it happens but it’s the reverse lottery. I’ve heard of some in the media but those ended up being testing issues.
I’ve had Covid. I’m strong like bull.
right now, my niece - type II diabetic - mutated strain
#monoclonalTreatment2x
So she’s probably vaccinated, too?
(12-25-2021 08:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2021 10:29 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]“ Editor’s note, Dec. 22, 2021: Since May 24, 2021, when this study was published, epidemiological data has shown that people who have recovered from COVID-19 can be reinfected with the virus and become sick again. This seems to be especially true with the delta and omicron variants. This study found that antibodies persist long after an infection, and those findings have been supported by subsequent research. But having antibodies does not automatically translate into indefinite protection from illness, particularly as new variants arise. Washington University recommends that everyone eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine get it and a booster – even if previously infected. Vaccination is the best protection against COVID-19.”
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-new...rotection/
How many people do you know who have had Covid 2x? Anyone on here know someone who has been verified to have had it more than once? I’m sure it happens but it’s the reverse lottery. I’ve heard of some in the media but those ended up being testing issues.
I’ve had Covid. I’m strong like bull.
I've had it twice, number two grandson just got over his 3rd bout with it. After the first round the 2 subsequent events were like having a mild cold.
I suspect I'm what they call a long hauler because I've had some symptoms from the first round that persist still. Those have been primarily fatigue, joint issues and being winded easily now. None of those things have kept me down.
There's no doubt this illness can kill, especially in its original form and in people who are already health compromised. The Delta variant was about like having a moderately severe cold for a few days thanks to monoclonal antibodies. I look forward to kicking the latest variants ass too.
Oh, by the way, my grandson was vaccinated when he came down with the last two variants so...
Finally, as I said in the OP - and this isn't meant for you - I neither agree nor disagree with anything stated in the article, I just presented it as a topic for discussion.
I really do hope we can wake up and start producing antivirals at scale - let the people who want to get vaccinated still get the vaccine, but a good antiviral will keep the infected out of the hospital.
Dr. John Campbell talks about how a protein the virus produces to essentially act as QC when it replicates may have failed in Japan, which basically stopped Covid-19 cold there:
https://youtu.be/E1GF0H9V_1g
If we can force that failure onto the virus elsewhere, it is game, set, match.
(12-24-2021 05:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
So my friend has her vaccination but still got a mild case of the Wuhan virus.
She got her booster last week and a couple days later came down with Wuhan the 2nd time and is having Christmas with her gift from China. And this time its pretty rough. Obviously she got exposed before her booster. She's not in the hospital but is pretty miserable.
Its a pretty miserable, difficult virus.
(12-25-2021 03:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2021 05:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
So my friend has her vaccination but still got a mild case of the Wuhan virus.
She got her booster last week and a couple days later came down with Wuhan the 2nd time and is having Christmas with her gift from China. And this time its pretty rough. Obviously she got exposed before her booster. She's not in the hospital but is pretty miserable.
Its a pretty miserable, difficult virus.
Omicron seems to have a higher transmission rate than previous variants. It is just exploding. You probably need to be at least one week post booster at exposure to get any benefit.
Everyone's first take on omicron was "the symptoms sound milder" so it sounded like it would be better for the hospitals. The problem will be if the rate of infection is so much higher than delta that even milder symptoms put more people in the hospital.
Say delta had a hospitalization rate of 20 in every 1000 infections. Then say Omicron has a hospitalization rate of 10 in every 1000 infections. It sounds better, but if Omicron has a transmission rate 4x that of Delta we still end up with a surge of double the hospitalizations. I don't know what the actual numbers will be, but high infection rate of omicron means that we could still see overwhelmed hospitals even if it has milder symptoms.
I'm hoping that we don't, and that omicron is the next step in a series of variants that turn this into the common cold.
My wife has a number of friends who have had omicron and say its like a cold. Not sure how many of them were vaccinated or previous victims. But this one friend has a bad case.
(12-25-2021 04:24 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2021 03:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2021 05:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of this publication so I neither agree nor disagree with their assertions. I just found it interesting.
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
"...the rest of the story".
Let the ad hominem attacks begin.
So my friend has her vaccination but still got a mild case of the Wuhan virus.
She got her booster last week and a couple days later came down with Wuhan the 2nd time and is having Christmas with her gift from China. And this time its pretty rough. Obviously she got exposed before her booster. She's not in the hospital but is pretty miserable.
Its a pretty miserable, difficult virus.
Omicron seems to have a higher transmission rate than previous variants. It is just exploding. You probably need to be at least one week post booster at exposure to get any benefit.
Everyone's first take on omicron was "the symptoms sound milder" so it sounded like it would be better for the hospitals. The problem will be if the rate of infection is so much higher than delta that even milder symptoms put more people in the hospital.
Say delta had a hospitalization rate of 20 in every 1000 infections. Then say Omicron has a hospitalization rate of 10 in every 1000 infections. It sounds better, but if Omicron has a transmission rate 4x that of Delta we still end up with a surge of double the hospitalizations. I don't know what the actual numbers will be, but high infection rate of omicron means that we could still see overwhelmed hospitals even if it has milder symptoms.
I'm hoping that we don't, and that omicron is the next step in a series of variants that turn this into the common cold.
It will probably affect many more people, but from what I understand, its "mild" in that it causes a much lower percentage of severe life threatening cases. Its still fairly nasty---head aches, fever, and the trademark almost debilitating fatigue. The big difference is this is more of a head cold with headaches and sore throats---but serious lung involvement is pretty rate with Omicron (thats MUCH difference from the original and delta variants).
My thought is this---if this variant causes only 10% of the hospitalizations we saw in Covid delta or original Covid---then that's essentially "flu numbers" when it comes to deaths. The truth is---if the original variant in early 2020 had been Omicron---we likely would never have had the massive hard core reaction, shut downs, and disruptions. We likely would have handled Covid no differently than we did the H1N1 flu epidemic in 2009/2010.
This website is some weird propaganda website I wouldn't trust anything on it
(12-26-2021 10:40 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: [ -> ]This website is some weird propaganda website I wouldn't trust anything on it
I never claimed it was anything at all either way. I found the piece interesting and thought provoking enough to share it.