Gil declined comment this time saying the leagues original “earned not given” statement still stands
(11-15-2021 03:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Gil declined comment this time saying the leagues original “earned not given” statement still stands
maybe he should reiterate that earned not given means top 6+6 not 5+1+6
Aresco is a former TV exec. He is in his element.
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(11-15-2021 03:06 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2021 03:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Gil declined comment this time saying the leagues original “earned not given” statement still stands
maybe he should reiterate that earned not given means top 6+6 not 5+1+6
5+1 is an undeserved giveaway. Besides the Alabama tier, talent nationwide is far more diffuse than a generation ago. P5 is arbitrary with regard to on field performance and should not mean a free pass.
I prefer a 6-6 model but like I said in another thread I would also be okay with a 5-1-6 model if one another provision is made.
The 2nd and 3rd place ranked champions of the G5 should get a bowl game vs a top-20 team on Dec. 31 in 2 access bowl slots. It would provide better competition, better bowl opportunities, and better exposure.
Just go to 12 teams, give each conference champion from the SEC to CUSA a shot and then have two at-large bids. If Alabama, Georgia, Penn State and the likes are so great as advertised they'll have no issue taking out the likes of an App State, Louisiana, Coastal Carolina, Boise State, Utah State, UTSA or Liberty if they got pitted up against them. On the other hand...all said teams and more have proven that they can either beat or hold their own against the bulk of the P5 school's they've been pitted against. Plus it makes for compelling tv.
(11-15-2021 03:16 PM)hotrod2001 Wrote: [ -> ]Just go to 12 teams, give each conference champion from the SEC to CUSA a shot and then have two at-large bids. If Alabama, Georgia, Penn State and the likes are so great as advertised they'll have no issue taking out the likes of an App State, Louisiana, Coastal Carolina, Boise State, Utah State, UTSA or Liberty if they got pitted up against them. On the other hand...all said teams and more have proven that they can either beat or hold their own against the bulk of the P5 school's they've been pitted against. Plus it makes for compelling tv.
Thats how I feel too. Until we reach a time where no team can go undefeated and still not even have a chance to play for a championship, then its a bogus championship altogether. Id even be ok with 16 teams and the top 4 or 8 get a bye. As long as it includes the 10 champs.
Someone had the idea that the champions from the top 8 rated conference received an autobid and then 4 at-larges. I like that idea.
We should have the same model as the FCS when it comes to playoffs!
(11-15-2021 03:48 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone had the idea that the champions from the top 8 rated conference received an autobid and then 4 at-larges. I like that idea.
Thats not bad. At least you'd have 3 G5 representatives. I could live with that. I cant imagine 4 or more conference champs being completely undefeated, so at least if you run the table you would be in.
(11-15-2021 03:48 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone had the idea that the champions from the top 8 rated conference received an autobid and then 4 at-larges. I like that idea.
This seems logical. You have people saying top 6 conference champs get a spot and others saying every conference champ. Have some sort of compromise that still gives a good amount of at-large spots for the SEC and Big 10. For this year lets say the highest ranked team from each conference wins the title, you'd probably be looking at the P5 champs plus the champs from the AAC and pick 2 from the SBC/CUSA/MWC champs, and then at-larges that include Bama, Michigan (or St), Notre Dame, and maybe Ole Miss? That's basically every team in the CFP Top 10 plus G5 champs in the top 20 range. Seems fair.
(11-15-2021 03:12 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer a 6-6 model but like I said in another thread I would also be okay with a 5-1-6 model if one another provision is made.
The 2nd and 3rd place ranked champions of the G5 should get a bowl game vs a top-20 team on Dec. 31 in 2 access bowl slots. It would provide better competition, better bowl opportunities, and better exposure.
Would be a good compromise but unlikely that the access bowls would even be available. They're likely to be permanent hosts for the quarterfinals and semifinals. Otherwise, the non-semifinal access bowls go from hosting teams ranked roughly 5-12 in the 4 team playoff era to hosting teams 13-20 ish. Doubt they take that downgrade.
Might as well go 8-8 w top 8 getting a bye
So y’all understand how tournament numbers work???
(11-15-2021 03:48 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone had the idea that the champions from the top 8 rated conference received an autobid and then 4 at-larges. I like that idea.
I like that 8 conference champs and four at large bids, but dissolve two conferences. Go to 8 16 team conferences with 2 OOC games, 10 conferences games + conferences championship and playoffs.
This makes too much sense to ever happen, but here goes:
1. Start season one week earlier, or drop to an 11 game schedule for all FBS teams.
2. 16 team playoff.
3. Each BCS conference champion earns a berth to the playoff. That is 10 teams.
4. 6 at large teams.
5. Conference championship week is weekend of Thanksgiving.
6. Playoff start two weeks later. Seed teams 1-16
7. 10-11 days betweeen each round of playoffs. This year, round one on 12/11, quarters on 12/21/12/22, semis on 1/1 and championship on 1-11 or 1/12.
8. Use 15 bowl sites to sponsor the playoffs or a combo of home teams sponsoring round one and neutral sites starting in quarters continuing till championship game.
9. Fill in the other times with non-playoff bowl games. I would support making 7 games the minimum for bowl eligibility, but that is sort of a seperate issue.
10. Move National signing day back to February so coaches can concentrate on game prepartion.
Thoughts?
The problem with having to many rounds at neutral site is fans will get fatigued on chasing their teams around. That and in early rounds, to go to a neutral site, you are hoping they make it the more desired next round, or you going to see them lose.
The 5+1+6 model will probably get adopted, but it just feels.like such weak sauce by the P5. They have every advantage. The SEC and B1G will be making 25X as much media revenue as the SB. They have stadiums that pull in 70K+. They have often statewide, large fanbases. They pretty much get first, and second, and third dibs in recruiting. What are they worried about? Are they not confident they'd always be among the top five, especially with a committee that CLEARLY diminishes any G5 school's accomplishments?
(11-15-2021 06:53 PM)3333 Man Wrote: [ -> ]This makes too much sense to ever happen, but here goes:
1. Start season one week earlier, or drop to an 11 game schedule for all FBS teams.
2. 16 team playoff.
3. Each BCS conference champion earns a berth to the playoff. That is 10 teams.
4. 6 at large teams.
5. Conference championship week is weekend of Thanksgiving.
6. Playoff start two weeks later. Seed teams 1-16
7. 10-11 days betweeen each round of playoffs. This year, round one on 12/11, quarters on 12/21/12/22, semis on 1/1 and championship on 1-11 or 1/12.
8. Use 15 bowl sites to sponsor the playoffs or a combo of home teams sponsoring round one and neutral sites starting in quarters continuing till championship game.
9. Fill in the other times with non-playoff bowl games. I would support making 7 games the minimum for bowl eligibility, but that is sort of a seperate issue.
10. Move National signing day back to February so coaches can concentrate on game prepartion.
Thoughts?
I don't like the P5 Champs getting spots with no guarantee of any spots for G5. They will just give them all to their own teams.