(10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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(10-26-2021 02:52 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:05 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:00 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:53 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ]You guys must not have good business classes at your colleges ...
You aren't getting more than double raise on the contract. It isn't happening.
And that's just to meet the low end of the new AAC schools reported payout. It escalates to at least 3.5 million by the end of the contract. You aren't going to make more than AAC teams.
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So use the same argument for the new AAC teams. If they are going to be paid differently, why pay FAU, Rice, UTSA, UNCC etc $2 million (4x what they were making in CUSA) when they probably could have gotten them for $1 million? Its not like those teams are valued any higher than the new SB 4. Maybe ESPN realized they had undervalued the SB, and new they couldnt get those 4 to move to the SB without paying equitably. Theres no reason to think ESPN would value the new AAC 6 more than the new SB 4. But unlike the AAC, they couldnt get away with differential pricing in the SB.
Why wouldn't those 6 be more valuable than the sun belt 4? The sun belt added the current last place teams in each cusa division plus a fcs call up as 3 of your 4 teams. All 6 AAC schools are in urban big market areas. Not so much with Marshall and southern miss and even questions on James Madison.
The AAC added the last 4 football champs and very well could be 5. I mean utsa and UAB are high in the west. Fau is high in the east
Those Sunbelt schools aren't worth more than doubling the deal. Sorry they aren't.
And going by your logic , the AAC might have wanted 4 and not 6. ESPN influenced them on who and how many just like the sun belt. So that cancels out
The sun belt added some low budget a low performing teams too. The AAC has 6 schools among the highest budgets with ability and commitment to add more money
All the Sunbelt adds would have went to the AAC first. The Marshall fans were losing their minds over Matt browns guesses that included them on Twitter. They have put down the Sunbelt for years.
Now the Sunbelt is all mighty. Get out of here
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Why? Here is your answer. Nice article that came out today. This is reality.
Sunbelt Locked Into Successful Path
"Benson has pointed out in the past, as the live sports industry heads increasingly toward streaming over linear TV, the fact a campus sits in a metro area with millions of people does little good if few there care about the football team."
“In today’s media rights deals, there is the linear vs. the digital,” Benson said. “The passionate fan bases are going to be subscribers to ESPN and ESPN+. What has been true is that App State, Georgia Southern and Coastal Carolina fans have been major purchasers of ESPN+. In my observation, James Madison, Marshall and Southern Miss fans, those fans are going to be new subscribers to ESPN+. You can certainly be valuable without being in a major metropolitan area.”
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
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1. That ignores all those who already have ESPN plus. I have it already
2. Fan support to fill a 30 k stadium and such is one thing. ESPN plus is another. Our markets have way more people. Takes way less subscribers per Capita to equal your dollars
3. ESPN plus is a very wide spanning platform. I have it for hockey mostly now as it took over for NHL tv. Many are like me. Especially in richer areas with tons more people than you guys have
I know you are trying to say your way more passionate fanbases make up for your population dying. You failed here though
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Markets? Programs like App State and ECU have reach throughout the entirety of North Carolina. They aren't bound by Boone or Greenville. That is part of the flaw in this thinking that markets are where your school is located. Most of App's alumni live along the I-85 corridor from Charlotte to Winston-Salem to Greensboro which has a collective population of probably around 3,000,000 people. App State is a destination school in the mountains for most people. They go to school there then move back to an urban area.
App gets press in Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Charlotte, and Raleigh. Since this is a basketball state, App isn't competing with an Alabama or an Auburn, or a Florida, Miami, or FSU for football press.
Brand power and visibility matters more than location here. ECU and App State both have that. ECU's is a little older but App State really gained notoriety in 2007 and then cemented their status in NC in 2019 with wins over UNC and USC. It's not coincidence that App has the highest viewership among Sun Belt programs, despite not having a market, as some of you all say.
(10-26-2021 02:48 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:37 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:53 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't read through all of this thread but I can tell you all the details that I know. The Sunbelt schools currently get 1.4 million per school. Once the expansion is complete and the new member schools are officially added, it is expected that each Sunbelt member school will receive $2-2.5 Million per school. Essentially matching the total payout that each new school going into the American receives.
The biggest difference is in what the entry fee is to the American. The six schools going to the American will each pay a $10 million dollar entry into the league.
You guys must not have good business classes at your colleges ...
You aren't getting more than double raise on the contract. It isn't happening.
And that's just to meet the low end of the new AAC schools reported payout. It escalates to at least 3.5 million by the end of the contract. You aren't going to make more than AAC teams.
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This doesn't make any sense. The ??? you should be asking is-if ESPN was content to let the SBC contract run through the duration, what incentive would the SBC have to add teams? The SBC lost nothing in this realignment and didn't have to add teams. Ergo ESPN/SBC saw value in the additions the SBC made.
On the other hand, the AAC lost brand value, and added the teams that would (presumably) mitigate the loss on the TV contract most out of all available (or at least the ones the Mouse deemed available). What incentive, in this case, does ESPN have to fulfill the original terms of the contract (hint:none).
You guys are not more than doubling your deal to add 4 teams. It's not happening
And again thats the low end for the new AAC adds. It goes up from there and might start higher than 2 million too
You have message board people using flimsy math and logic go try to arrive at 2 million a year to attempt to equal the new Aac teams low end .
And again app state or Marshall would leave in a second for the AAC if offered. For all those saying to check what the AAC board was saying on the new adds before its official ...look at what Marshall fans have said on the belt before the AAC turned them down
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If we're using your logic as reality, then shouldn't ESPN pay the AAC additions just $1MM/year (which by all accounts is soubling your current deal).
why would ESPN agree to $2MM/year given your alternative is $.5MM in a conference whos tv deal is expiring next year and might not have any suitors?
As to App and the AAC..i'm not sure anymore. Pre departures absolutely. Now the only appealing teams are ECU, Memphis hoops, and UNCC. Do you think our fans see a difference between a ranked SMU and a ranked UL?
To quote the local rag (re: UNCC appointment to the AAC ranks): " though it’s fair to say that C-USA and the American resemble one another — sort of the college football version of that meme of the two Spider-mans pointing at each other."
(10-26-2021 03:02 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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The MAC already gets around $2 million annually from ESPN. So you all are getting equal to them as well. The Sun Belt, according to multiple sources, will be getting $2 million and it will graduate from there.
Again, this is just the first publication to put it in print. Now that the seal is broken, more digging will be done and the details that others don't want to publish for risk of losing their sources will come out.
Keep doing your best to knock it down all you want. Your viewership and attendance don't reach the level of App State's and that's ultimately what matters here. Why you think you're so far above the Sun Belt while you're quite literally still in the basement of FBS is beyond me.
Why wouldn't Georgia State or Coastal leave for the AAC when they were given the chance? There is only one right answer here.
(10-26-2021 03:02 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:52 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:05 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:00 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]So use the same argument for the new AAC teams. If they are going to be paid differently, why pay FAU, Rice, UTSA, UNCC etc $2 million (4x what they were making in CUSA) when they probably could have gotten them for $1 million? Its not like those teams are valued any higher than the new SB 4. Maybe ESPN realized they had undervalued the SB, and new they couldnt get those 4 to move to the SB without paying equitably. Theres no reason to think ESPN would value the new AAC 6 more than the new SB 4. But unlike the AAC, they couldnt get away with differential pricing in the SB.
Why wouldn't those 6 be more valuable than the sun belt 4? The sun belt added the current last place teams in each cusa division plus a fcs call up as 3 of your 4 teams. All 6 AAC schools are in urban big market areas. Not so much with Marshall and southern miss and even questions on James Madison.
The AAC added the last 4 football champs and very well could be 5. I mean utsa and UAB are high in the west. Fau is high in the east
Those Sunbelt schools aren't worth more than doubling the deal. Sorry they aren't.
And going by your logic , the AAC might have wanted 4 and not 6. ESPN influenced them on who and how many just like the sun belt. So that cancels out
The sun belt added some low budget a low performing teams too. The AAC has 6 schools among the highest budgets with ability and commitment to add more money
All the Sunbelt adds would have went to the AAC first. The Marshall fans were losing their minds over Matt browns guesses that included them on Twitter. They have put down the Sunbelt for years.
Now the Sunbelt is all mighty. Get out of here
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Why? Here is your answer. Nice article that came out today. This is reality.
Sunbelt Locked Into Successful Path
"Benson has pointed out in the past, as the live sports industry heads increasingly toward streaming over linear TV, the fact a campus sits in a metro area with millions of people does little good if few there care about the football team."
“In today’s media rights deals, there is the linear vs. the digital,” Benson said. “The passionate fan bases are going to be subscribers to ESPN and ESPN+. What has been true is that App State, Georgia Southern and Coastal Carolina fans have been major purchasers of ESPN+. In my observation, James Madison, Marshall and Southern Miss fans, those fans are going to be new subscribers to ESPN+. You can certainly be valuable without being in a major metropolitan area.”
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
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1. That ignores all those who already have ESPN plus. I have it already
2. Fan support to fill a 30 k stadium and such is one thing. ESPN plus is another. Our markets have way more people. Takes way less subscribers per Capita to equal your dollars
3. ESPN plus is a very wide spanning platform. I have it for hockey mostly now as it took over for NHL tv. Many are like me. Especially in richer areas with tons more people than you guys have
I know you are trying to say your way more passionate fanbases make up for your population dying. You failed here though
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Markets? Programs like App State and ECU have reach throughout the entirety of North Carolina. They aren't bound by Boone or Greenville. That is part of the flaw in this thinking that markets are where your school is located. Most of App's alumni live along the I-85 corridor from Charlotte to Winston-Salem to Greensboro which has a collective population of probably around 3,000,000 people. App State is a destination school in the mountains for most people. They go to school there then move back to an urban area.
App gets press in Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Charlotte, and Raleigh. Since this is a basketball state, App isn't competing with an Alabama or an Auburn, or a Florida, Miami, or FSU for football press.
Brand power and visibility matters more than location here. ECU and App State both have that. ECU's is a little older but App State really gained notoriety in 2007 and then cemented their status in NC in 2019 with wins over UNC and USC. It's not coincidence that App has the highest viewership among Sun Belt programs, despite not having a market, as some of you all say.
And again ESPN plus isn't about just college football. It's a wide spanning platform. I have it for NHL and UFC. FAU is barely on it now but happens to be on it this week ....
If that's your go to, you will lose. Because tons of people in our broad markets will get it even if not passionate on college teams. So yeah I doubt espn plus subscriptions are going to more than double your media deal
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(10-26-2021 03:02 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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Dang man....I'm getting the sense that there are some really butt-hurt FAU fans on here. HAHA
(10-26-2021 02:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 12:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 12:30 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]The existing SBC schools are more valuable today than when the last TV contract was signed.
It’s like discussion take place in a vacuum here.
Contract is $1m per school in August 2021 (signed prior to 2016)
Contract is $2m per school in October 2021
Must be because of the four schools added… this is simplistic reasoning.
No evidence what so ever that the Sunbelt receives 1 million per school in per any 2016 agreement. The Sunbelt Conference total media income in 2017 was just $1,533,594. Split 10 ways, thats about $150K a school. The school receiving the highest total conference payout was ULL. That schools total payout including CFP money, bowl money, NCAA credits, and conference tournament revenue was $1,728,612.
2017 is the latest Tax Forms on file for the Sunbelt that I could lay my hands on. The information is all there. Conference media income is broken out on page 9.
https://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pd...I2OTc1NS4w
The numbers are made up and not the point. The concept is though, the four adds aren't the reason for the increase contract over contract, the play on the field and the audience growth is.
The numbers are made up? Seriously? Now who's hiding their head in a echo chamber. Furthermore---You dont think the SEC has had nice audience growth? How about the AAC? At no time did ESPN tear up existing low paying contracts to hand out early raises. Why not?
They are directly correct. You're missing the forest for the trees.
The AAC contract is much different going forward - so they do flex downwards.
Bottom line: The SBC contract will be roughly double this time around due to the increase in performance and frankly is one of two conferences below the top four that maintained it's overall status (other being MWC).
(10-26-2021 03:02 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:48 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:37 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:53 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 01:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't read through all of this thread but I can tell you all the details that I know. The Sunbelt schools currently get 1.4 million per school. Once the expansion is complete and the new member schools are officially added, it is expected that each Sunbelt member school will receive $2-2.5 Million per school. Essentially matching the total payout that each new school going into the American receives.
The biggest difference is in what the entry fee is to the American. The six schools going to the American will each pay a $10 million dollar entry into the league.
You guys must not have good business classes at your colleges ...
You aren't getting more than double raise on the contract. It isn't happening.
And that's just to meet the low end of the new AAC schools reported payout. It escalates to at least 3.5 million by the end of the contract. You aren't going to make more than AAC teams.
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This doesn't make any sense. The ??? you should be asking is-if ESPN was content to let the SBC contract run through the duration, what incentive would the SBC have to add teams? The SBC lost nothing in this realignment and didn't have to add teams. Ergo ESPN/SBC saw value in the additions the SBC made.
On the other hand, the AAC lost brand value, and added the teams that would (presumably) mitigate the loss on the TV contract most out of all available (or at least the ones the Mouse deemed available). What incentive, in this case, does ESPN have to fulfill the original terms of the contract (hint:none).
You guys are not more than doubling your deal to add 4 teams. It's not happening
And again thats the low end for the new AAC adds. It goes up from there and might start higher than 2 million too
You have message board people using flimsy math and logic go try to arrive at 2 million a year to attempt to equal the new Aac teams low end .
And again app state or Marshall would leave in a second for the AAC if offered. For all those saying to check what the AAC board was saying on the new adds before its official ...look at what Marshall fans have said on the belt before the AAC turned them down
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If we're using your logic as reality, then shouldn't ESPN pay the AAC additions just $1MM/year (which by all accounts is soubling your current deal).
why would ESPN agree to $2MM/year given your alternative is $.5MM in a conference whos tv deal is expiring next year and might not have any suitors?
As to App and the AAC..i'm not sure anymore. Pre departures absolutely. Now the only appealing teams are ECU, Memphis hoops, and UNCC. Do you think our fans see a difference between a ranked SMU and a ranked UL?
To quote the local rag (re: UNCC appointment to the AAC ranks): " though it’s fair to say that C-USA and the American resemble one another — sort of the college football version of that meme of the two Spider-mans pointing at each other."
I mean 40 games vs 15 games on linear
7 million for old members vs 1.4 million for you guys
All your new adds waited because they wanted to make sure the AAC didn't call first. If ESPn wanted to bring you guys in, you'd come in. Marshall would in a second. Fans wanted the AAC bad
And again you guys are using flimsy math to get to 2 million a school. AAC teams start there at the low end (high end was 3.5) and it goes up from there gradually
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(10-26-2021 02:49 PM)b2b Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 12:30 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]The existing SBC schools are more valuable today than when the last TV contract was signed.
It’s like discussion take place in a vacuum here.
Contract is $1m per school in August 2021 (signed prior to 2016)
Contract is $2m per school in October 2021
Must be because of the four schools added… this is simplistic reasoning.
$1M x 10 members = $10,000,000
$2M x 14 members = $28,000,000
So Marshall, ODU, JMU and USM are worth $18,000,000 to the conference? That's basically what you're saying here. Those 4 are worth almost double what the SBC 10 was worth.
Imagine thinking this simply, ignorance is bliss.
(10-26-2021 02:23 PM)ODU-Z8 Wrote: [ -> ]There's a lot of things about this realignment that are puzzling, but it's clear the mouse is pulling the strings.
Either way, it doesn't really matter. Something happened to make ODU (and Marshall) drop their intentions of regionalization in CUSA, and quick. And something happened to cure the Sun Belt of its recalcitrance to expand to 14. Make of that what you will.
I think it's simple. The Sunbelt saw an opportunity to strengthen itself, so it did so with ESPN's input and blessing. Marshall, JMU, Old Dominion, and Southern Mississippi were the most attractive additions after the AAC six left. Those four schools add value. The Sunbelt did a good job. They struck while the iron was hot. ESPN did it's best to bring the most attractive CUSA schools under its banner, and it worked. Now they have more inventory, and at a cheap price.
(10-26-2021 03:07 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 03:02 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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Dang man....I'm getting the sense that there are some really butt-hurt FAU fans on here. HAHA
Not at all. Marshall fans wanted the AAC add bad. Now they are trying to justify the sun belt which many of them ripped on here for years.
I've consistently said I like 4-5 teams in the sun belt. And I like Marshall too. The rest ...no thanks
Marshall fans are the ones who have done a 180 since the sun belt turned them down
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Why are FAU fans especially such Jerks and being so salty?
(10-26-2021 03:05 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 03:02 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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The MAC already gets around $2 million annually from ESPN. So you all are getting equal to them as well. The Sun Belt, according to multiple sources, will be getting $2 million and it will graduate from there.
Again, this is just the first publication to put it in print. Now that the seal is broken, more digging will be done and the details that others don't want to publish for risk of losing their sources will come out.
Keep doing your best to knock it down all you want. Your viewership and attendance don't reach the level of App State's and that's ultimately what matters here. Why you think you're so far above the Sun Belt while you're quite literally still in the basement of FBS is beyond me.
Why wouldn't Georgia State or Coastal leave for the AAC when they were given the chance? There is only one right answer here.
Oh so now you start at 2 million and it goes up from there ? Give me one source saying that. Sounds like you are copying the AAC reports using low end and then rising up. You are hilarious
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(10-26-2021 03:12 PM)Eagleyed Wrote: [ -> ]Why are FAU fans especially such Jerks and being so salty?
Why would I be salty ? I wanted the AAC and got it. The sun belt teams waited for the AAC and then went to the sun belt when turned down
It's not being a jerk to point out the lack of logic with what sun belt people are saying. You arent getting paid what any aac teams will make.
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(10-26-2021 03:12 PM)Eagleyed Wrote: [ -> ]Why are FAU fans especially such Jerks and being so salty?
Insecurity. They thought going to the AAC was a prize until they found out we aren't jealous. Too late, no take backs!
(10-26-2021 03:16 PM)ODU-Z8 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 03:12 PM)Eagleyed Wrote: [ -> ]Why are FAU fans especially such Jerks and being so salty?
Insecurity. They thought going to the AAC was a prize until they found out we aren't jealous. Too late, no take backs!
Um yeah right .. you guys didn't wait on the AAC before accepting the sun belt or anything ..
Again I like about 5-6 schools in the sun belt. No thanks on the rest
You aren't getting paid more, you aren't on tv more , and if the Armageddon you guys try to say where the AAC loses 3 teams happens..the aac could take one of your teams
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(10-26-2021 03:11 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 03:07 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 03:02 PM)Ragu Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021 02:57 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.dnronline.com/sports/mettlen...36a7e.html
"Ben Moore, who covers Sun Belt member Georgia State for 247Sports, reported that the current Sun Belt deal with ESPN pays $1.4 million per school and could increase to $2 million once expansion is complete."
Fine, it's in print now. From a reputable publication. Even though I've heard it in several other places not related.
"could be" definitely sounds very definitive lol
He must not have done the math to see how ridiculous that is. You guys aren't going to have ESPN more than double your media deal that you are locked into. It makes zero sense to do so.
And again this flimsy math gets you to the lowest startup amount that the new aac gets. And it goes up from there. Even at 2 million you'd get less than the new Aac adds
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Dang man....I'm getting the sense that there are some really butt-hurt FAU fans on here. HAHA
Not at all. Marshall fans wanted the AAC add bad. Now they are trying to justify the sun belt which many of them ripped on here for years.
I've consistently said I like 4-5 teams in the sun belt. And I like Marshall too. The rest ...no thanks
Marshall fans are the ones who have done a 180 since the sun belt turned them down
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Marshall wanted the AAC only if it included ODU, WKU, App State, Coastal Carolina. We are giddy because not only are we going to be with the aforementioned schools (Minus WKU) but we will be with JMU, and Georgia Southern as well. All we've ever wanted is to get back to an eastern/southern conference with real fans and real rivalries. Thankfully, we are going home to the Sunbelt and we couldn't be happier.
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FAU fans are indeed a sensitive bunch. But this is dumb. The AAC is a better conference and Marshall/ODU fans wanted it. The only team that legitimately wanted the Belt as a first choice was USM.
(10-26-2021 03:24 PM)2009panther Wrote: [ -> ]FAU fans are indeed a sensitive bunch. But this is dumb. The AAC is a better conference and Marshall/ODU fans wanted it. The only team that legitimately wanted the Belt as a first choice was USM.
No argument from me that its better right now. Lets revisit this topic when Cincinnati, UCF and Houston are officially gone.