“ “I hate to say it,” a Group of Five official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Five conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
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Where is the astronaut meme? Always has been.
Wait...Shouldn't it be “I hate to say it,” a Group of
Four official said, “but if you’re not in a Power
Six conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
(10-21-2021 02:38 PM)NewfieHerdFan Wrote: [ -> ]Wait...Shouldn't it be “I hate to say it,” a Group of Four official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Six conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
Even more truth….
(10-21-2021 02:38 PM)NewfieHerdFan Wrote: [ -> ]Wait...Shouldn't it be “I hate to say it,” a Group of Four official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Six conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
The AAC is jack hanging on the drift wood. Sure there is plenty of Power Conference room, but those jerks won't scooch over.
(10-21-2021 02:30 PM)dchi72 Wrote: [ -> ]“ “I hate to say it,” a Group of Five official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Five conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
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True. But what he failed to say is the point and mission for every g5 then is to position themselves on the titanic to get on the p5 lifeboat.
Utah, tcu, cincy, uca, byu and houston succeeded.
Who’s next?
Ultimately P5 are not made of rubber. Unless there is another PX league is introduced, I do not see that many G5 teams can advance to P5.
(10-21-2021 02:55 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Ultimately P5 are not made of rubber. Unless there is another PX league is introduced, I do not see that many G5 teams can advance to P5.
Probably not, but who knows what could happen down the road. Maybe 10-15 years from now some of the P5 leagues decide to have their own "Airport Meetings" and split off the cream from the coat tail riders. Unless/until the "power" leagues fully and completely split away there's value in positioning yourself in the league that's the closest to the power leagues and see what happens, even if "closest" is an extreme distance apart. Maybe no more teams will ever be added to power conferences, maybe we'll have another 1970's style split where certain leagues/schools have to decide if they can meet the classifications to stay at the top level or have to drop to the new D1AA.
The illusion of P5 died when Texas and Oklahoma left. The Big 12 is a sinking ship in of itself. It's going to continue to get shredded to pieces.
It's really a P4 at this point.
(10-21-2021 03:13 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]The illusion of P5 died when Texas and Oklahoma left. The Big 12 is a sinking ship in of itself. It's going to continue to get shredded to pieces.
It's really a P4 at this point.
Which is why I kinda laughed at Bob Huggins yesterday suggesting the power conferences should go off and have their own tournament without the mid-major conferences... his own school is no longer going to be a true power conference in just a few years.
(10-21-2021 03:17 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2021 03:13 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]The illusion of P5 died when Texas and Oklahoma left. The Big 12 is a sinking ship in of itself. It's going to continue to get shredded to pieces.
It's really a P4 at this point.
Which is why I kinda laughed at Bob Huggins yesterday suggesting the power conferences should go off and have their own tournament without the mid-major conferences... his own school is no longer going to be a true power conference in just a few years.
I think WVU has a shot at the ACC if Notre Dame decides to pull the trigger.
Or I could see the ACC pulling in Kansas, either way, I think WVU won't be left holding the bag, just looking at the numbers game, two of the remaining Big 12 programs will be left astray if all of the P4 conferences decide to go to 16.
(10-21-2021 02:38 PM)NewfieHerdFan Wrote: [ -> ]Wait...Shouldn't it be “I hate to say it,” a Group of Four official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Six conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
There is no Power 6. If you don't have a $100+ Million budget without including allocations, then you aren't Power Conference material.
(10-21-2021 03:21 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]just looking at the numbers game, two of the remaining Big 12 programs will be left astray if all of the P4 conferences decide to go to 16.
PAC would have to take 4
B1G would have to take 2
ACC would have to take 1, if ND is the other 1, or take 2 if it isn’t.
Total = 7 or 8, being taken from a league with 12 teams
So that’s really 4 or 5 of the Big XII being left out in the cold, not just 2
(10-21-2021 04:28 PM)Cardiff Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2021 03:21 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]just looking at the numbers game, two of the remaining Big 12 programs will be left astray if all of the P4 conferences decide to go to 16.
PAC would have to take 4
B1G would have to take 2
ACC would have to take 1, if ND is the other 1, or take 2 if it isn’t.
Total = 7 or 8, being taken from a league with 12 teams
So that’s really 4 or 5 of the Big XII being left out in the cold, not just 2
I am not including Cincinnati, UCF, BYU and Houston.
I also think Baylor gets left at the altar.
They have no shot.
(10-21-2021 02:30 PM)dchi72 Wrote: [ -> ]“ “I hate to say it,” a Group of Five official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Five conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
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Soon to be Power 4. The Cartel forced the Big East out. If anyone thinks they won’t do the same to the Big 12 you’re fooling yourself. It’s the exact same pattern.
Bowlsby a few days ago was suggesting that it might come to the point that conferences dont matter---instead you'll want to be grouped with the top schools who negotiated a common TV rights deal similar to the old CFA deals in the late 1980's.
I think we’ll probably eventually have some congressional intervention on certain aspects of athletics. I think it’s possible we might get to a point where we’ll look at it and say, a larger association, something like the College Football Association of years ago makes sense as a governing body.
I could see a day when conferences are less critical, and we end up with a group of 48 schools that are all in an alliance together and playing each other all the time. That is a little bit of what was trying to be accomplished between the ACC, Big Ten, and Pac-12, although time will tell whether or not that alliance is actually impactful.
https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2021/10...-and-more/
(10-21-2021 05:10 PM)MU ATO Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2021 02:30 PM)dchi72 Wrote: [ -> ]“ “I hate to say it,” a Group of Five official said, “but if you’re not in a Power Five conference, you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.”’
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Soon to be Power 4. The Cartel forced the Big East out. If anyone thinks they won’t do the same to the Big 12 you’re fooling yourself. It’s the exact same pattern.
The Cartel conferences had to pull all the Big East charter football members to do it. They'll have a tougher time with the Big XII since the NCAA introduced autonomy governance back in 2016 and devised a legally binding contract that was approved 16-2 by all voting bodies of NCAA Division 1 that granted autonomy to the Power 5 Conferences.
Just go to games and enjoy watching your team play. College football games are a lot of fun no matter where you are playing. Tailgate, fellowship with friends, cheer on your team, and live your life.
The ultimate challenge now is who can get their players the most money from endorsements. That will be the Alabama's of the future. A kid will choose to go to a G5 school if he gets more money in endorsements over TV exposure. Now that the money is flowing freely from boosters, it may shake up college football again.
(10-21-2021 03:13 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]The illusion of P5 died when Texas and Oklahoma left. The Big 12 is a sinking ship in of itself. It's going to continue to get shredded to pieces.
It's really a P4 at this point.
The Big 12 is on the clock. They really need to get a Big 12 team (Not OU/UT) in the playoffs, if they can achieve this feat within the next few years, then they'll be fine. If not then they're screwed.