The AAC about to add six.
The Big 12 might not be done expanding.
The CUSA, Sun Belt and now maybe even the MAC scrambling to gird up on programs to better protect themselves or recover from the moves above them.
In the middle are the futures of the likes of Marshall, Liberty University, James Madison, Old Dominion, Texas-El Paso and even more.
Exactly what this board was created for!
Lol ? this is true! Let the chaos commence!
Konference kaos now has started to affect the FCS programs, with CUSA trying to desperately remain an FBS conference!
And will WKU and MTSU stay or go to the MAC? Choices, choices.
Independence is also getting pruned. UConn, Umass, ND and Army are all that is left. Everything is getting shook up.
They don't mention who the two schools were. Implication seems to be TCU and Baylor, but past history would suggest it was two out of KU, ISU or OSU.
(12-02-2021 02:08 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]They don't mention who the two schools were. Implication seems to be TCU and Baylor, but past history would suggest it was two out of KU, ISU or OSU.
Where are you referring to? The only references to the Pac were their forming the "Alliance" with the ACC and Big Ten, and this:
Quote:Houston used the whispers about their Pac-12 discussions to their advantage, even as they knew the league was not close to following through on expansion.
(12-02-2021 01:19 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote: [ -> ]Houston almost didn't get the vote to enter the Big 12 and certainly wasn't going to be picked by the PAC any time soon.
https://gocoogs.com/big-12-reckoning/
I'm still skeptical that ESPN seriously thought they were going to actually pull Big 12 schools into the AAC.
(12-02-2021 01:48 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]^
Certainly?
Without UT, there's no reason for the Pac to expand into the Central TZ.
If OU/UT don't actually leave the Big 12 by the time the 4 new members join, I wonder what the divisional split will look like. Perhaps like so?
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, West Virginia
West: Baylor, BYU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech
I'm guessing Houston is the odd man out and shoved into the East Division. Then once OU/UT are gone, Houston moves to the West to balance the divisions at 6 and 6.
(12-02-2021 02:24 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2021 02:08 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]They don't mention who the two schools were. Implication seems to be TCU and Baylor, but past history would suggest it was two out of KU, ISU or OSU.
Where are you referring to? The only references to the Pac were their forming the "Alliance" with the ACC and Big Ten, and this:
Quote:Houston used the whispers about their Pac-12 discussions to their advantage, even as they knew the league was not close to following through on expansion.
Where did you get Pac out of that?!
Article said two schools tried to blackball UH, keeping UH from upgrading, but didn't name them.
(12-02-2021 02:48 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2021 02:24 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2021 02:08 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]They don't mention who the two schools were. Implication seems to be TCU and Baylor, but past history would suggest it was two out of KU, ISU or OSU.
Where are you referring to? The only references to the Pac were their forming the "Alliance" with the ACC and Big Ten, and this:
Quote:Houston used the whispers about their Pac-12 discussions to their advantage, even as they knew the league was not close to following through on expansion.
Where did you get Pac out of that?!
Article said two schools tried to blackball UH, keeping UH from upgrading, but didn't name them.
Ah, I thought you were referencing Transic's comment about Houston to the Pac, as in which schools would be going with.
They failed to mentioned that Boise State was the 4th school instead of Houston. The Texas state government got involved again like they did when they got Baylor in the Big 12 in the first place in stead of BYU, New Mexico, TCU or Houston back then. That meant Boise State got the same treatment what happened in the past when the Big 12 added Baylor instead.
(12-02-2021 02:28 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2021 01:19 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote: [ -> ]Houston almost didn't get the vote to enter the Big 12 and certainly wasn't going to be picked by the PAC any time soon.
https://gocoogs.com/big-12-reckoning/
I'm still skeptical that ESPN seriously thought they were going to actually pull Big 12 schools into the AAC.
That (collusion by ESPN and AAC to decapitate the B12) is a story I would love to understand. I could see the paranoia amongst B12 leaders believing this story. After all they were blindsided by the OU & UT decisions. Maybe Aresco was delusional in thinking that the AAC could go on the offensive and fed the rumors. But I still don’t see ESPN as being that naive and/or arrogant.
(12-02-2021 04:23 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: [ -> ]That (collusion by ESPN and AAC to decapitate the B12) is a story I would love to understand. I could see the paranoia amongst B12 leaders believing this story. After all they were blindsided by the OU & UT decisions. Maybe Aresco was delusional in thinking that the AAC could go on the offensive and fed the rumors. But I still don’t see ESPN as being that naive and/or arrogant.
It's pretty simple. It was a no-lose situation for ESPN, so they prepped the AAC, leaked data, and hoped they could make the remaining Big 12 teams panic in the first few days and jump for a life raft of the AAC amid the chaos.
Naivete and arrogance have nothing to do with it... it was "worth a shot."
The worst case scenario for ESPN was that they had to honor their contracts. The best case scenario, enough schools in smaller B12 markets jumped that they got out of $600 to $800 million they owed the Big 12 for four lame-duck seasons.
It was crazy weird that AAC market bloggers had detailed TV ratings disseminated and source quotes about the future value of the Big 12 on like, day 3 of the OU/UT to SEC saga, wasn't it?
I've been following this stuff for a long time (back to the MWC leaving the WAC days), and felt the Big East/American split was "about damned time." I've never seen anything like that week in all of conference realignment. While 90% of the informed people were saying "Just because there's SEC smoke, doesn't mean there's fire, of course they talked..." Aresco was talking about aggressively pursuing Big 12 members.
It sounded crazy to veterans of realignment talk. None of us knew how serious SEC expansion really was, and Aresco "had ESPN in the room" already.
Everyone likes to say "football drives the bus" but it should be pretty obvious to all now that ESPN is really the conductor.
The Kaos is now in full effect!
Big Ten rumors. Pac-12 survival concerns. Big 12 looking for new opportunities. Now we're hearing rumors out of the ACC and Notre Dame!
Crazy times, indeed!
(12-02-2021 04:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]They failed to mentioned that Boise State was the 4th school instead of Houston. The Texas state government got involved again like they did when they got Baylor in the Big 12 in the first place in stead of BYU, New Mexico, TCU or Houston back then. That meant Boise State got the same treatment what happened in the past when the Big 12 added Baylor instead.
Wrong. Tillman Fertitta, one of our biggest donors as well as the owner of the Houston Rockets, got involved.
(07-01-2022 04:53 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-01-2022 04:51 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2021 04:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]They failed to mentioned that Boise State was the 4th school instead of Houston. The Texas state government got involved again like they did when they got Baylor in the Big 12 in the first place in stead of BYU, New Mexico, TCU or Houston back then. That meant Boise State got the same treatment what happened in the past when the Big 12 added Baylor instead.
Wrong. Tillman Fertitta, one of our biggest donors as well as the owner of the Houston Rockets, got involved.
I smell Tulane.
Aren't they an AAU school? They'd be a great fit for the Big 10, don't you think?
See? I can spew nonsense as well. (Though I guess a better counter could've been "I smell teen spirit" or something.)