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East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?
navy in the west.. they want to be with texas teams (texas folks less afraid of enlisting )

switch navy with memphis
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane
(10-18-2021 08:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane

I guess it will probably depend upon if Navy is in the east or west. I keep reading on here that they would want to be in the west, but I wonder about that. Memphis and UAB will definitely want to play each other every year. Other than those two, I agree that there probably isn't a lot of history that would compel cross division rivals.
(10-18-2021 08:42 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane

I guess it will probably depend upon if Navy is in the east or west. I keep reading on here that they would want to be in the west, but I wonder about that. Memphis and UAB will definitely want to play each other every year. Other than those two, I agree that there probably isn't a lot of history that would compel cross division rivals.

Navy joined the AAC and wanted to be in the west. They prefer playing SMU,Tulsa,Tulane and now Rice. They were never interested in being in the EAST division
(10-18-2021 08:42 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane

I guess it will probably depend upon if Navy is in the east or west. I keep reading on here that they would want to be in the west, but I wonder about that. Memphis and UAB will definitely want to play each other every year. Other than those two, I agree that there probably isn't a lot of history that would compel cross division rivals.

Navy was in the West in AAC 1.0 (pre-defection of UConn to the Big East). They will want to be in the West so that now they can play a game in DFW every year and in San Antonio or Houston every year. These additions have Navy written all over it, since they are the most valuable brand in the AAC (Memphis is the closest) and probably have Aresco strung up like a puppet.
Who cares
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Navy is in the West. ECU wants Navy. I mean...Navy vs. Pirates. Come on. That game really needs a name.
Assuming the East is UAB, Memphis, Temple, USF, FAU, Charlotte, ECU then I'd probably pick Tulane as a permanent cross-over just from a geography standpoint.
(10-18-2021 08:48 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:42 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe you are trying to be funny here, but why would there have to be a permanent cross divisional opponent?

There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane

I guess it will probably depend upon if Navy is in the east or west. I keep reading on here that they would want to be in the west, but I wonder about that. Memphis and UAB will definitely want to play each other every year. Other than those two, I agree that there probably isn't a lot of history that would compel cross division rivals.

Navy was in the West in AAC 1.0 (pre-defection of UConn to the Big East). They will want to be in the West so that now they can play a game in DFW every year and in San Antonio or Houston every year. These additions have Navy written all over it, since they are the most valuable brand in the AAC (Memphis is the closest) and probably have Aresco strung up like a puppet.

Navy is in the West by choice. No reason to change that. They will play the private schools, as they see as their academic/athletic peers. Playing in TX/OK/LA places them in their prime recruiting area. Adding San Antonio will not hurt. Hopefully they can figure out how to get to Denton.

EAST
Temple, ECU, Charlotte, USF, FAU, UAB, Memphis
WEST
Navy, Tulsa, SMU, North Texas, Rice, UTSA, Tulane

This is likely the split. Memphis could go either way, but you cannot have Memphis, SMU and Tulsa all in the same division. The West on paper still looks much stronger, but hopefully that will balance out over time. Memphis should dominate the East for the next 4 years.

Basketball - Dear Lord Help Us!!!
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Denton’s a nice College Town . . . and great Music Town. They have an Annual JazzFest that rivals any other jazzfest in the country (New Orleans being the exception).
It is interesting, but despite sharing the conference with UTSA for a few years, we only played the Roadrunners 3 times. Would gladly continue to share conference with them.
(10-19-2021 12:01 AM)Kandy Atz Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:48 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:42 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:31 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]There doesn't have to be, but the ACC and SEC have permanent cross division rivals. For example, Georgia Tech plays Clemson every year. Georgia plays Auburn every year.

But that’s because of geography and history like FSU- UM. That wouldn’t exist in a 14 team AAC. There is little history or geography to do it. Similar to BigTen.

EAST
Temple,ECU,Charlotte,USF,FAU, UAB,Memphis
WEST
Navy,Tulsa,SMU,North Texas,Rice,UTSA,Tulane

I guess it will probably depend upon if Navy is in the east or west. I keep reading on here that they would want to be in the west, but I wonder about that. Memphis and UAB will definitely want to play each other every year. Other than those two, I agree that there probably isn't a lot of history that would compel cross division rivals.

Navy was in the West in AAC 1.0 (pre-defection of UConn to the Big East). They will want to be in the West so that now they can play a game in DFW every year and in San Antonio or Houston every year. These additions have Navy written all over it, since they are the most valuable brand in the AAC (Memphis is the closest) and probably have Aresco strung up like a puppet.

Navy is in the West by choice. No reason to change that. They will play the private schools, as they see as their academic/athletic peers. Playing in TX/OK/LA places them in their prime recruiting area. Adding San Antonio will not hurt. Hopefully they can figure out how to get to Denton.

EAST
Temple, ECU, Charlotte, USF, FAU, UAB, Memphis
WEST
Navy, Tulsa, SMU, North Texas, Rice, UTSA, Tulane

This is likely the split. Memphis could go either way, but you cannot have Memphis, SMU and Tulsa all in the same division. The West on paper still looks much stronger, but hopefully that will balance out over time. Memphis should dominate the East for the next 4 years.

Basketball - Dear Lord Help Us!!!

Are you saying Memphis will dominate in Football? Coach Clark loves conference games.
This is adding to just add.
(10-19-2021 01:04 AM)Realignment Wrote: [ -> ]This is adding to just add.

The problem is, no matter who AAC would have ended up adding, would not check all the boxes. It's not like there are several juggernaut schools are waiting in the G5 to be added. So, AAC, I believe, attempted to find the best combination of adds to cover all the bases, taking into consideration that Memphis is, most likely, gone, regardless of what else happens and it is unclear what else happens.
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Request: Along these lines, can we also set up permanent rivarly week games? It seems like one of the few plusses in all this is that it creates a few more drivable matchups. Could help with orientation/interest. Who would everyone prefer? Divisional crossovers are in play that week ah la Missouri-Arkansas.

Logical options:
Navy-Temple (124mi)
ECU-UNCC (249mi)
USF-FAU (230mi)
Tulane-UAB (343mi)
UTSA-NorTex (301mi)
SMU-Rice (239mi)
Memphis-Tulsa (401mi)
(10-19-2021 07:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

Request: Along these lines, can we also set up permanent rivarly week games? It seems like one of the few plusses in all this is that it creates a few more drivable matchups. Could help with orientation/interest. Who would everyone prefer? Divisional crossovers are in play that week ah la Missouri-Arkansas.

Logical options:
Navy-Temple (124mi)
ECU-UNCC (249mi)
USF-FAU (230mi)
Tulane-UAB (343mi)
UTSA-NorTex (301mi)
SMU-Rice (239mi)
Memphis-Tulsa (401mi)
Like this. Regional rivalries are important.

Temple Navy would be an obvious one. Let’s go with that.
(10-18-2021 08:23 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: [ -> ]East - West

UAB - Memphis (old rivals so it makes sense)
Navy - SMU (Navy will want either a team in Dallas or Houston)
Temple - Rice (Temple gets recruiting ties in Houston)
ECU - Tulane (ECU's high attendance is awarded one of the remaining name recognition teams)
USF - Tulsa (USF's low attendance results in Tulsa, but still a name recognition team)
FAU - UTSA (two larger CUSA markets)
Charlotte - North Texas (somebody has to get Denton)

What are your predictions?

FAU already has most history with UNT, so would think that makes more sense.
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