USA TODAY released their annual college finances with a look at how schools' budgets are shaped. Keep in mind that there's no consistent way to the madness but this gives a pretty decent picture.
These are all public schools since their information is available
Current WAC Members
110. New Mexico State $28.7M
138. Sam Houston $20.8M
142. Stephen F Austin $19.1M
145. Lamar $18.9M
157. Utah Valley $17.7M
176. UTRGV $15.2M
224. Chicago State $7.6M
Other Schools of Note
171. Southern Utah $15.7M
180. Texas-Arlington $14.6M
185. Texas A&M - CC $14.0M
202. McNeese State $12.2M
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
(10-14-2021 12:08 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ]USA TODAY released their annual college finances with a look at how schools' budgets are shaped. Keep in mind that there's no consistent way to the madness but this gives a pretty decent picture.
These are all public schools since their information is available
Current WAC Members
110. New Mexico State $28.7M
138. Sam Houston $20.8M
142. Stephen F Austin $19.1M
145. Lamar $18.9M
157. Utah Valley $17.7M
176. UTRGV $15.2M
224. Chicago State $7.6M
Other Schools of Note
171. Southern Utah $15.7M
180. Texas-Arlington $14.6M
185. Texas A&M - CC $14.0M
202. McNeese State $12.2M
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
Take away funding for the additional 30 some odd additional scholarships required for NMSU to play FBS football and budgets are pretty close for the three Texas public school newcomers.
How come Tarleton and Dixie aren’t on the USA Today list?
There must be something to a various yearly average as UMKC and Bakersfield are still listed as WAC schools.
(10-14-2021 12:19 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2021 12:08 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ]USA TODAY released their annual college finances with a look at how schools' budgets are shaped. Keep in mind that there's no consistent way to the madness but this gives a pretty decent picture.
These are all public schools since their information is available
Current WAC Members
110. New Mexico State $28.7M
138. Sam Houston $20.8M
142. Stephen F Austin $19.1M
145. Lamar $18.9M
157. Utah Valley $17.7M
176. UTRGV $15.2M
224. Chicago State $7.6M
Other Schools of Note
171. Southern Utah $15.7M
180. Texas-Arlington $14.6M
185. Texas A&M - CC $14.0M
202. McNeese State $12.2M
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
Take away funding for the additional 30 some odd additional scholarships required for NMSU to play FBS football and budgets are pretty close for the three Texas public school newcomers.
Not really - 30 Scholarships at $25K/year is only $750,000.
There are other costs associated with FBS - 2 more sports required, higher salaries usually.
SHSU ranks 23rd among public FCS Schools.
CAAF has 9 members ahead
Big Sky has 6
MVFC has 5
Southern and A-Sun 1 each
(10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]How come Tarleton and Dixie aren’t on the USA Today list?
They were not Division I in 2019-20. This list is done annually and it takes a bit for information to process so they tend to be a 'year behind' current times.
(10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]There must be something to a various yearly average as UMKC and Bakersfield are still listed as WAC schools.
UMKC & Bakersfield were members of the WAC in 2019-20.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]Not really - 30 Scholarships at $25K/year is only $750,000.
The biggest difference between NMSU and the other schools from Texas is the amount of money the Aggies get internally from their institution. Ticket sales and donations are also higher but the internal money shifted from the university is the game change.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]There are other costs associated with FBS - 2 more sports required, higher salaries usually.
SHSU ranks 23rd among public FCS Schools.
CAAF has 9 members ahead
Big Sky has 6
MVFC has 5
Southern and A-Sun 1 each
The cost of doing business and cost of scholarships is different from location to location, so that's always a challenge. The Texas schools already have the sports required to go FBS. In SFA's case, a student fee uptick could make a huge difference while all the Texas schools can benefit from increased ticket sales, royalties, etc.
(10-14-2021 01:45 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ]The cost of doing business and cost of scholarships is different from location to location, so that's always a challenge. The Texas schools already have the sports required to go FBS. In SFA's case, a student fee uptick could make a huge difference while all the Texas schools can benefit from increased ticket sales, royalties, etc.
Among public schools, the cost of scholarships shouldn't vary that much.
Big Sky schools generally have a bigger travel budget. The CAA and some of the other schools sponsor 20+ sports.
Sac State and NAU have the highest budgets in the Big Sky (Sac State is $34M, NAU closer to $25M) and both have usually offered more scholarships in the minor sports than some of the rest, while schools like Montana concentrate the spending on football and basketball.
(10-14-2021 02:07 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2021 01:45 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ]The cost of doing business and cost of scholarships is different from location to location, so that's always a challenge. The Texas schools already have the sports required to go FBS. In SFA's case, a student fee uptick could make a huge difference while all the Texas schools can benefit from increased ticket sales, royalties, etc.
Among public schools, the cost of scholarships shouldn't vary that much.
Big Sky schools generally have a bigger travel budget. The CAA and some of the other schools sponsor 20+ sports.
Sac State and NAU have the highest budgets in the Big Sky (Sac State is $34M, NAU closer to $25M) and both have usually offered more scholarships in the minor sports than some of the rest, while schools like Montana concentrate the spending on football and basketball.
So what you are saying is NMSU has a pretty good FCS budget.
Re tuition- Talent rich Texas schools are much more likely to recruit in state students than New Mexico State or another school with relatively few in state D1 prospects. Out of state students pay considerably more than in state, which adds to the cost of scholarships fir NMSU and similar schools.
Re minor sport funding- There is pay off for NAU’s investment in minor sports. Their cross country team is outstanding.
(10-14-2021 01:45 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]How come Tarleton and Dixie aren’t on the USA Today list?
They were not Division I in 2019-20. This list is done annually and it takes a bit for information to process so they tend to be a 'year behind' current times.
(10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]There must be something to a various yearly average as UMKC and Bakersfield are still listed as WAC schools.
UMKC & Bakersfield were members of the WAC in 2019-20.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]Not really - 30 Scholarships at $25K/year is only $750,000.
The biggest difference between NMSU and the other schools from Texas is the amount of money the Aggies get internally from their institution. Ticket sales and donations are also higher but the internal money shifted from the university is the game change.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]There are other costs associated with FBS - 2 more sports required, higher salaries usually.
SHSU ranks 23rd among public FCS Schools.
CAAF has 9 members ahead
Big Sky has 6
MVFC has 5
Southern and A-Sun 1 each
The cost of doing business and cost of scholarships is different from location to location, so that's always a challenge. The Texas schools already have the sports required to go FBS. In SFA's case, a student fee uptick could make a huge difference while all the Texas schools can benefit from increased ticket sales, royalties, etc.
James Madison’s student fee is over $2200 for athletics.
https://www.jmu.edu/ubo/rates-breakdown.shtml. SFA could use them as a benchmark.
Re: institutional Funds
Here’s a breakdown for WAC FB schools-
110. New Mexico State $28.7M-18.9M (65.97%) from institutional transfers
138. Sam Houston $20.8M-15.36M (72.28%)
142. Stephen F Austin $19.1M-16.25M (85%)
145. Lamar $18.9M-14.5M (76.94%)
171. Southern Utah $15.7M -12.85 (81.4%)
Texas schools could conceivably catch up with NMSU by raising fees and revenue from other sources. The problem I see with this scenario is that simply matching NMSU won’t be enough for programs to become competitive. NMSU is on the lower end of athletic funding and their football program is a long way from being competitive.
(10-15-2021 03:29 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote: [ -> ]Re minor sport funding- There is pay off for NAU’s investment in minor sports. Their cross country team is outstanding.
I would take NAU's cross country team in a heartbeat. They are a great example of where a little investment in a "minor" sport has brought great dividends. They also have a ideal location for distance running. At altitude, but only 2 hours away from a speed workout location.
(10-14-2021 01:45 PM)TexasTerror Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]How come Tarleton and Dixie aren’t on the USA Today list?
They were not Division I in 2019-20. This list is done annually and it takes a bit for information to process so they tend to be a 'year behind' current times.
(10-14-2021 12:35 PM)TexanFan Wrote: [ -> ]There must be something to a various yearly average as UMKC and Bakersfield are still listed as WAC schools.
UMKC & Bakersfield were members of the WAC in 2019-20.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]Not really - 30 Scholarships at $25K/year is only $750,000.
The biggest difference between NMSU and the other schools from Texas is the amount of money the Aggies get internally from their institution. Ticket sales and donations are also higher but the internal money shifted from the university is the game change.
(10-14-2021 12:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]There are other costs associated with FBS - 2 more sports required, higher salaries usually.
SHSU ranks 23rd among public FCS Schools.
CAAF has 9 members ahead
Big Sky has 6
MVFC has 5
Southern and A-Sun 1 each
The cost of doing business and cost of scholarships is different from location to location, so that's always a challenge. The Texas schools already have the sports required to go FBS. In SFA's case, a student fee uptick could make a huge difference while all the Texas schools can benefit from increased ticket sales, royalties, etc.
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At $10.58 per semester hour vs Sam Houston's $20 rate, Lamar has potential room to grow its student athletic fee.
Link - Lamar Tuition and Fees Fall 2021 and Spring 2022
As part of its shared services agreement, Lamar Institute of Technology's (LIT) student fee is $5.00 per semester hour. (A portion of LIT's fee supports Lamar University's athletics in return for LIT admission to LU games.)
Link - LIT Tuition and Fees and
Link - LIT explanation of shared services
Stephen F. Austin's bond proposal included a $10/SCH increase in the student fees to help fund the new basketball practice facility so some of SFA's ability to increase fees may have already been tapped.
Link - SFA Bond Presentation (See Page 10)
Quote:A new Basketball Practice Facility is proposed to be included in the Series 2019 bond issue. The source of funding for the project will come from a proposed increase of $10/SCH to the University Services Fee beginning effective Fall of 2019.
It appears that fee increase was approved.
Link - SFA regents launch historic building campaign
Quote:Regents approved a $10 increase in the university services fee, to be set at $83 per semester credit hour, effective fall 2019.
GCU has a $100 million budget.
In addition to whatever is happening at UTRGV to help fund football, Sam Houston is moving ahead with an athletic fee referendum