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If this is true that would
Leave the following

CUSA EAST

ODU
WKU
FAU
MTSU
FIU

CUSA WEST

USM
LA TECH
UNT
UTEP
RICE.

This really sucks
Instead of full re-mix of teams with close by
Travel. But I can tell you one thing WKU would
Have given Cincinatti a much better game than Temple.

No Matter
WKU may be left on the Omega frat house couch
With Jug Dish, Muhammad and Stanley.
But we will still win like we always have,
While they shuffle the deck stairs on the
G5 Titanic.
(10-08-2021 05:09 PM)LaTex14 Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte, UTSA, are duds in basketball. Don’t see it.

Charlotte at least has basketball history, the facilities, and the previous relationships with the AAC teams.

If they do this then that would be two established programs in Marshall and UAB along with two potentials/marketz in UTSA and Charlotte. Seems like a pretty good idea all things considered.
(10-08-2021 05:13 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:10 PM)Luckyshot Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:10 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote: [ -> ]Im just waiting for Navy to announce they're going independent again.

Maybe they join the MWC for football only. They like being in AAC west, and it would put them in with the AFA?
Where would the rest of their sports go?

Where they are now?
Oh, are they football only in the AAC? Didn't realize.
(10-08-2021 05:17 PM)Luckyshot Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:13 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:10 PM)Luckyshot Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:10 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:09 PM)JCMiner Wrote: [ -> ]Im just waiting for Navy to announce they're going independent again.

Maybe they join the MWC for football only. They like being in AAC west, and it would put them in with the AFA?
Where would the rest of their sports go?

Where they are now?
Oh, are they football only in the AAC? Didn't realize.

Yes
(10-08-2021 05:14 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true that would
Leave the following

CUSA EAST

ODU
WKU
FAU
MTSU
FIU

CUSA WEST

USM
LA TECH
UNT
UTEP
RICE.

This really sucks
Instead of full re-mix of teams with close by
Travel.
We are left on the Omega frat house couch
With Jug Dish, Muhammad and Stanley.

Then 2-4 more leave for the Belt . . .
(10-08-2021 05:19 PM)Luckyshot Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:14 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true that would
Leave the following

CUSA EAST

ODU
WKU
FAU
MTSU
FIU

CUSA WEST

USM
LA TECH
UNT
UTEP
RICE.

This really sucks
Instead of full re-mix of teams with close by
Travel.
We are left on the Omega frat house couch
With Jug Dish, Muhammad and Stanley.

Then 2-4 more leave for the Belt . . .

And don't forget the Mountain West could look to add as well. It's super unfortunate.

I know that feeling, Marshall had to go through this under the last line of realignment, but we gained respect for a lot of the current teams. So it might look bleak now, but who knows what things will look like in 10 years.
IF true this would be really rough for WKU. The geography stinks (yes it does matter)-- unless you have a big media deal-- MATTERS. No more easy bus trips to Marshall and UAB. Travel costs and time. It adds up quick. JMU and Liberty (possibles) are even 8.5 hours away.
(10-08-2021 04:52 PM)Superanjario Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:44 PM)balanced_view Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]If a department head brought me those numbers that spanned 8 years and try to sell me on....

if we just up the budget by 50% and took out all the main hitter and replaced those with programs we complained about playing for the last 3 years. That today with a 50% budget increase those numbers will now all of a sudden increase to cover that extra cost. And do that in a time when more and more people are not spending their money on what we are selling.

I would fire that person on the spot. Does anyone else see it that way and try to set aside your fandom when answering that question? As a businessman this does not make any sense to me...

no matter the names going to the AAC

Some presidents are going to answering some hard questions in 5 years

This is one of the biggest problems the decision makers are facing. They have convinced themselves of this for a few years, and now have to add some of these teams to help stop the bleeding.

TV money and NCAA credits are real. Marshall is in a spread out conference that pays it about 2.2 million with the worst media deal in D1. If we can trade this spread out conference for another spread out conference with the 6th best media deal, potential for multiple NCAA bids, and an extra 3+ million in conference revenue, it’s a complete no brainer.

If you were using "a" brain you would see this media deal is going to tank just as CUSA's media deal did exactly that once those schools that espn/fox was actually paying for...said bye bye.

If you believe that will still be the case in 3 years you need to find someone with a brain to explain it to you. No school in this new AAC is a sure NCAA Bid school...

not one

Memphis has not been to the NCAA in the last 7 seasons
Wichita State 1 out of the last 3 and as a play in school
SMU twice in 30 years
Tulsa twice in the last 18 years
South Florida 1 in 30 years
Temple twice since joining the AAC 8 years
Tulane ZERO in the last 26 years
ECU Twice in 56 years 1992 the last
UAB twice the last 15 years
Marshall ONCE in the last 34 years
UNCC ZERO in the last 17 years
UTSA twice in last 20 years last time 11

NCAA units are gone once the current ones run out. One of the worse basketball conferences around once Memphis is gone. Wichita State has not shown they can keep winning without Greg Marshall or his recruits
At some point, it will be interesting to collect all educated guesses, rumors, and leaks and see which one comes the closest to reality.
(10-08-2021 04:59 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:52 PM)Superanjario Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:44 PM)balanced_view Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]If a department head brought me those numbers that spanned 8 years and try to sell me on....

if we just up the budget by 50% and took out all the main hitter and replaced those with programs we complained about playing for the last 3 years. That today with a 50% budget increase those numbers will now all of a sudden increase to cover that extra cost. And do that in a time when more and more people are not spending their money on what we are selling.

I would fire that person on the spot. Does anyone else see it that way and try to set aside your fandom when answering that question? As a businessman this does not make any sense to me...

no matter the names going to the AAC

Some presidents are going to answering some hard questions in 5 years

This is one of the biggest problems the decision makers are facing. They have convinced themselves of this for a few years, and now have to add some of these teams to help stop the bleeding.

TV money and NCAA credits are real. Marshall is in a spread out conference that pays it about 2.2 million with the worst media deal in D1. If we can trade this spread out conference for another spread out conference with the 6th best media deal, potential for multiple NCAA bids, and an extra 3+ million in conference revenue, it’s a complete no brainer.

The additional exposure and teams our fans have heard of would be worth it imo.

Show me where that makes up for the added cost? It sure didnt up till 2012 and CUSA 2.0. All of Marshalls dollars were flat since joining CUSA. Across THE BOARD and if you take into count of inflation. Those numbers are actually down during CUSA 2.0. Even with Houston, S. Miss UCF...

yet some how this time that is going to change. If you decide to actually reply to this post I'm not interested in the Blaaaa Blaaaa Blaaa that you posted a thousand time in the past two weeks. Try to use actual facts to back up your words

Below are the actual facts of when Marshall was playing those same schools and more exposer

adjusted for inflation
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(10-08-2021 06:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:59 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:52 PM)Superanjario Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:44 PM)balanced_view Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]If a department head brought me those numbers that spanned 8 years and try to sell me on....

if we just up the budget by 50% and took out all the main hitter and replaced those with programs we complained about playing for the last 3 years. That today with a 50% budget increase those numbers will now all of a sudden increase to cover that extra cost. And do that in a time when more and more people are not spending their money on what we are selling.

I would fire that person on the spot. Does anyone else see it that way and try to set aside your fandom when answering that question? As a businessman this does not make any sense to me...

no matter the names going to the AAC

Some presidents are going to answering some hard questions in 5 years

This is one of the biggest problems the decision makers are facing. They have convinced themselves of this for a few years, and now have to add some of these teams to help stop the bleeding.

TV money and NCAA credits are real. Marshall is in a spread out conference that pays it about 2.2 million with the worst media deal in D1. If we can trade this spread out conference for another spread out conference with the 6th best media deal, potential for multiple NCAA bids, and an extra 3+ million in conference revenue, it’s a complete no brainer.

The additional exposure and teams our fans have heard of would be worth it imo.

Show me where that makes up for the added cost? It sure didnt up till 2012 and CUSA 2.0. All of Marshalls dollars were flat since joining CUSA. Across THE BOARD and if you take into count of inflation. Those numbers are actually down during CUSA 2.0. Even with Houston, S. Miss UCF...

yet some how this time that is going to change. If you decide to actually reply to this post I'm not interested in the Blaaaa Blaaaa Blaaa that you posted a thousand time in the past two weeks. Try to use actual facts to back up your words

Below are the actual facts of when Marshall was playing those same schools and more exposer

adjusted for inflation
[Image: 1111.png]
[Image: 2222.png]

...are you ok?
(10-08-2021 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:02 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 05:01 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:37 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:35 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: [ -> ]If true, couple that with USM to the SBC (and maybe another from CUSA) and could pretty much kiss any exit fees goodbye. Good news!

That's not how it works son. I am absolutely sure it would take 75% of the conference members to vote to dissolve the conference. So that's at least 10 members that would be needed to vote for this.

Can CUSA afford lawsuits against 5-6 schools at once? Good luck with that. Judy cant even find the car door in her toy Jeep....Son.

Those schools can lawsuit all they want, bylaws are bylaws which were agreed upon by all member institutions of CUSA. You're gonna pay something to exit the conference, simple as that!

You missed it. Those schools wont have to "lawsuit" as you say. CUSA will, if they want to collect. If there is a fee at all, it will be minimal. Once again, good luck.

I dont have a clue how one person can be so freaking clueless....

CUSA does not have to sue anyone because the conference will just withhold that school's share of the money. All of this money from the NCAA, Media, FBS, is paid to the conference.

Judy has her toy jeep and you ride the short bus and make every other person on it look smart
If the rumors are true on who the next president and AD at Marshall are on point, I think there will be some big changes coming in Huntington in the next year.

Rumor is:

Brad D Smith to be Marshall President -- Marshall Grad. Former President of 3 companies, the last Intuit from 2008-2018, Co-Founder of The Wing 2 Wing Foundation.
Brad D Smith

Bill Noe to be Marshall AD -- Marshall Grad and former Marshall swimmer in the 1980s. He is the namesake and contributor of Marshall's new flight school that opened in Aug. He has been a pilot for over 40 years and President of NetJet INC, a private jet company. Noe is also currently on the Marshall BOG.
Bill Noe

The leadership of current conferences may already know this and are acting accordingly on the future moves. Having two ultra successfu Marshalll business people taking over the presidency and AD position and gasp running them like a business, what both colleges and college athletics have both become.
(10-08-2021 06:44 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]At some point, it will be interesting to collect all educated guesses, rumors, and leaks and see which one comes the closest to reality.

Easy answer Dawgxas

UAB, Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss and Tech

When the other article was released I said that no MWC would go to the AAC even though most on here believe it to be true.

Unfortunately for FAU, South Florida doesn’t wanted any of the F_U, and heard that for last month. It could still happen but South Florida is against it.
(10-08-2021 06:47 PM)RockyMtnHerd Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:59 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:52 PM)Superanjario Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:44 PM)balanced_view Wrote: [ -> ]This is one of the biggest problems the decision makers are facing. They have convinced themselves of this for a few years, and now have to add some of these teams to help stop the bleeding.

TV money and NCAA credits are real. Marshall is in a spread out conference that pays it about 2.2 million with the worst media deal in D1. If we can trade this spread out conference for another spread out conference with the 6th best media deal, potential for multiple NCAA bids, and an extra 3+ million in conference revenue, it’s a complete no brainer.

The additional exposure and teams our fans have heard of would be worth it imo.

Show me where that makes up for the added cost? It sure didnt up till 2012 and CUSA 2.0. All of Marshalls dollars were flat since joining CUSA. Across THE BOARD and if you take into count of inflation. Those numbers are actually down during CUSA 2.0. Even with Houston, S. Miss UCF...

yet some how this time that is going to change. If you decide to actually reply to this post I'm not interested in the Blaaaa Blaaaa Blaaa that you posted a thousand time in the past two weeks. Try to use actual facts to back up your words

Below are the actual facts of when Marshall was playing those same schools and more exposer

adjusted for inflation
[Image: 1111.png]
[Image: 2222.png]

...are you ok?

You need to stick to asking a poster with 18 post what their source is

I deal in facts not make believe land. If you have something to show they are not correct show it. Other wise keep asking for that source
(10-08-2021 06:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:47 PM)RockyMtnHerd Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:59 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 04:52 PM)Superanjario Wrote: [ -> ]TV money and NCAA credits are real. Marshall is in a spread out conference that pays it about 2.2 million with the worst media deal in D1. If we can trade this spread out conference for another spread out conference with the 6th best media deal, potential for multiple NCAA bids, and an extra 3+ million in conference revenue, it’s a complete no brainer.

The additional exposure and teams our fans have heard of would be worth it imo.

Show me where that makes up for the added cost? It sure didnt up till 2012 and CUSA 2.0. All of Marshalls dollars were flat since joining CUSA. Across THE BOARD and if you take into count of inflation. Those numbers are actually down during CUSA 2.0. Even with Houston, S. Miss UCF...

yet some how this time that is going to change. If you decide to actually reply to this post I'm not interested in the Blaaaa Blaaaa Blaaa that you posted a thousand time in the past two weeks. Try to use actual facts to back up your words

Below are the actual facts of when Marshall was playing those same schools and more exposer

adjusted for inflation
[Image: 1111.png]
[Image: 2222.png]

...are you ok?

You need to stick to asking a poster with 18 post what their source is

I deal in facts not make believe land. If you have something to show they are not correct show it. Other wise keep asking for that source

I'm an attorney. Asking questions is what I do. You may think it's dumb to even ask. I disagree.

Nothing is certain with realignment until we get reporting from someone with sources. Until then it's all speculation. And clearly the speculation--which hasn't included WKU in any conference's plans--is getting under your skin.
(10-08-2021 06:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:44 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]At some point, it will be interesting to collect all educated guesses, rumors, and leaks and see which one comes the closest to reality.

Easy answer Dawgxas

UAB, Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss and Tech

When the other article was released I said that no MWC would go to the AAC even though most on here believe it to be true.

Unfortunately for FAU, South Florida doesn’t wanted any of the F_U, and heard that for last month. It could still happen but South Florida is against it.


Is this a guess or based on some sources?

I would love to see it be UAB/Marshall/So Miss/La Tech
WKUYG....it's all good man. These are just rumors. If Marshall does get the invite them I'm sure our administration and fan base would love to continue playing WKU in all sports. We would probably even be willing to do a 2-1 with you guys in football LOL....jk man.
(10-08-2021 07:06 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:44 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]At some point, it will be interesting to collect all educated guesses, rumors, and leaks and see which one comes the closest to reality.

Easy answer Dawgxas

UAB, Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss and Tech

When the other article was released I said that no MWC would go to the AAC even though most on here believe it to be true.

Unfortunately for FAU, South Florida doesn’t wanted any of the F_U, and heard that for last month. It could still happen but South Florida is against it.


Is this a guess or based on some sources?

I would love to see it be UAB/Marshall/So Miss/La Tech
He doesn't know anything.

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(10-08-2021 07:06 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2021 06:44 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]At some point, it will be interesting to collect all educated guesses, rumors, and leaks and see which one comes the closest to reality.

Easy answer Dawgxas

UAB, Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss and Tech

When the other article was released I said that no MWC would go to the AAC even though most on here believe it to be true.

Unfortunately for FAU, South Florida doesn’t wanted any of the F_U, and heard that for last month. It could still happen but South Florida is against it.


Is this a guess or based on some sources?

I would love to see it be UAB/Marshall/So Miss/La Tech

That's a really solid core group but I would like to add WKU too
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