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(10-11-2021 04:23 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote: [ -> ]Theoretically C-USA COULD die.


-- AAC adds six (5 C-USA, 1 SBC)

-- MW adds two from C-USA Texas group

-- SBC (now at nine) adds three from C-USA


C-USA now down to four-- is about to add four------ when SBC at last minute takes two more for the DEATH BLOW!

Epilogue/Eulogy-- last two go Indy (one might drop to FCS)


AAC- 14 (expecting to lose two in near future stops at twelve)

MW-- 14 (same as AAC)

SBC-- 14 (consider it worth it for increased CFP money and less competition for media and recruits in same region)--university officials commission study for name change.

Theoretically yes, but why kill off an NCAA auto-bid to give another at-large bid to a P5 conference member that finished the season at or below .500 in their conference?

related note - wish there was a rule that a team can NOT receive an at-large bid unless they finished at least .500 (and would prefer at least one game above .500) in their conference.

(10-11-2021 10:52 AM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]There is absolutely no real sources that say CUSA teams will be poached by the SBC. Get serious. Could it happen? Sure. Is it just as likely that the CUSA poaches SBC teams? Sure.

Right now its nothing more than hopes/dreams from SBC posters.

I think most of us in CUSA East are hoping the AAC and MWC take the Texas teams off of our hands so we can go from there.

The only way the Sunbelt can "poach" some CUSA teams is if the AAC decides to add 6 or 8 schools, with almost all of them coming from CUSA. If the AAC just adds 4 from CUSA, it's very possible that CUSA lives to fight another day, and simply adds a couple of nice backups (JMU, Liberty, etc...) to the team. In fact, that plan would put CUSA back at 12 immediately, which is already 2 more than the Sunbelt has.

(10-11-2021 11:26 AM)galojah Wrote: [ -> ]Neither conference offers enough financial advantage for either conference to pull from the other. Doubt it would be worth the exit and entrance fees either way.

Which has made me think that if a conference WANTS a certain school from another conference why should said school be required to pay an entry fee. That sounds stupid and should be done away with. "You want me, you'll get me for free, otherwise, bug off" should be the way.

The exit fee is another matter, the teams leaving should pay.

Spoiler alert:

CUSA will raid the indies.

CUSA will ultimately add NMSU to pair with UTEP.

Then, CUSA will bring in the UMass-UConn FB rivalry to tie up the other end of their new footprint.

That's 2 built-in rivalries CUSA will absorb (as they carve out a new identity) to go with potential FCS move-ups.

The WAC may surprise - if they can lure UTEP (instead of the other way around). If the WAC wins that power struggle, then a new regional FBS league gets closer to fruition.

The CUSA brand does seem to be an asset as the footprint widens a bit.

Do you mean we can go back to the WAC? Amazing. LOL

I don't even know who's in the WAC nowadays.

(10-11-2021 05:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 11:26 AM)galojah Wrote: [ -> ]Neither conference offers enough financial advantage for either conference to pull from the other. Doubt it would be worth the exit and entrance fees either way.

Which has made me think that if a conference WANTS a certain school from another conference why should said school be required to pay an entry fee. That sounds stupid and should be done away with. "You want me, you'll get me for free, otherwise, bug off" should be the way.

The exit fee is another matter, the teams leaving should pay.

I believe it is just for stability. If you aren't invested then you can turn around and walk back out. If they got a couple million of your cash you'll probably stick it out a while.

Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Is this the same source that told you Marshall and UAB would be announced this week?

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Get off here with that garbage!!!

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Then it is settled.

(10-11-2021 07:08 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Then it is settled.

Not until poop confims it. Seems like he's taking a break from sports to discuss politics.

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Wait...you posted this exact thing on both the SBC and CUSA forums, only changing out the names of the conferences?

(10-11-2021 03:24 PM)JCMiner Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 03:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely no to SHSU or any other Texas teams. The only other teams in that area that I would consider (who would accept) are Texas State and NMSU (if we still have UTEP).

As for FCS call ups, the only two worth mentioning are JMU and Missouri St. I'd be fine with both.

I do think we should make a play for UMASS all sports, hell no to football only for them or UCONN either way.

I wish we would add Liberty but don't see it happening. I do think we could get Ga St to leave the SBC for CUSA. I'm not sure what App and Louisiana would do to be honest, but have to try.

So my CUSA expansion candidates in no particular order (if we lose teams and need to add)

App St
Louisiana
Ga St
Texas St
New Mexico St
UMASS
JMU
Missouri St

Once y'all are in the aac or the make believe east break away, we can add whatever Texas team we want.

That is true...but there won't be anymore added while the East is still here.

(10-11-2021 03:39 PM)GreenBison Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 03:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely no to SHSU or any other Texas teams. The only other teams in that area that I would consider (who would accept) are Texas State and NMSU (if we still have UTEP).

As for FCS call ups, the only two worth mentioning are JMU and Missouri St. I'd be fine with both.

I do think we should make a play for UMASS all sports, hell no to football only for them or UCONN either way.

I wish we would add Liberty but don't see it happening. I do think we could get Ga St to leave the SBC for CUSA. I'm not sure what App and Louisiana would do to be honest, but have to try.

So my CUSA expansion candidates in no particular order (if we lose teams and need to add)

App St
Louisiana
Ga St
Texas St
New Mexico St
UMASS
JMU
Missouri St

Delaware would make an interesting Call-up. I think I like the combination of JMU and Delaware.

I forgot about Delaware. No idea how good they are these days but they used to be solid. Also not sure how good their other sports are, but definitely worth a look.

(10-11-2021 03:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote: [ -> ]All this input from Marshall fans make me believe you're not going anywhere. The original question was who would the core of 6-8 teams add if we were poached by the AAC, SB, and MW.

Marshall fans are smart enough to realize we could get left behind just as easy as we could get an invite to the AAC.

(10-11-2021 04:14 PM)Tmac13 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 03:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely no to SHSU or any other Texas teams. The only other teams in that area that I would consider (who would accept) are Texas State and NMSU (if we still have UTEP).

As for FCS call ups, the only two worth mentioning are JMU and Missouri St. I'd be fine with both.

I do think we should make a play for UMASS all sports, hell no to football only for them or UCONN either way.

I wish we would add Liberty but don't see it happening. I do think we could get Ga St to leave the SBC for CUSA. I'm not sure what App and Louisiana would do to be honest, but have to try.

So my CUSA expansion candidates in no particular order (if we lose teams and need to add)

App St
Louisiana
Ga St
Texas St
New Mexico St
UMASS
JMU
Missouri St

Those Sunbelt schools, especially the top 3 you list, aren't going to leave the Sunbelt for less money and more travel in CUSA.. That's not even remotely realistic..

To add, it's also not realistic to think UMass and NMSU could be in the same conference unless it was a football only scenario..

CUSA makes more money, and the travel in CUSA East is actually better than SBC East...but carry on.

(10-11-2021 06:59 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Get off here with that garbage!!!

I'm curious why his username is spelled "sunami." Was "tsunamiwave" already taken?

(10-11-2021 07:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Wait...you posted this exact thing on both the SBC and CUSA forums, only changing out the names of the conferences?

Whah?! Hahaha!

There's too much value in having a spot at the G5 table and an NCAA automatic bid for the rest of the playoffs for any conference to die. It won't be the same if this shakes out the way some of y'all think it will, but CUSA will in some form remain an FBS conference.

(10-11-2021 06:59 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021 06:29 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing that CUSA wants a larger presence in Louisiana and is looking at raiding the Southland conference where they will invite McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nicholls State. These schools would like to move up from FCS to FBS which joining CUSA will allow them to do.

Get off here with that garbage!!!

What garbage? You should be happy that these Southland conference teams are in discussions with CUSA because after CUSA gets raided by the AAC, Sunbelt, and Mountain West you are going to need to invite more schools. The schools CUSA wants such as James Madison and Liberty are going to the Sunbelt so CUSA will have to look to the Southland conference for teams.