09-08-2021, 04:03 PM
09-08-2021, 04:18 PM
I do not want to give any indication that I support the FloSports deal. However, this type of deal is one of the big reasons the CAA gave for going with FloSports. I couldn't tell from the story whether we're getting anything out of this aside from exposure, but if we're getting any money from this then I would count it with the money we're getting from Flo when considering the value of that contract.
09-15-2021, 10:04 AM
(09-08-2021 04:18 PM)WMInTheBurg Wrote: [ -> ]I do not want to give any indication that I support the FloSports deal. However, this type of deal is one of the big reasons the CAA gave for going with FloSports. I couldn't tell from the story whether we're getting anything out of this aside from exposure, but if we're getting any money from this then I would count it with the money we're getting from Flo when considering the value of that contract.
In 2018-19 Cox paid us 35k for our games
https://www.scribd.com/document/50766055...-Agreement
Credit to extra Points/Matt Brown for filing the FOIA request https://www.extrapointsmb.com/foia-directory/
09-15-2021, 12:38 PM
The amount of money gained is not worth the disconnect created to my estimate 5-10K+ alums/fans
09-15-2021, 01:00 PM
The ESPN package is the obvious move for the league to expand its viewership. Easy access and the greatest viewership.
The Flo deal makes no sense to me. It is priced out of the range of similar services making it a non starter for all but the most die hard fan. It would be easier to swallow if these high fees were going back into the CAA programs. They aren't. Most of the production is done by the member schools, not Flo. Where are these national games that the Flo kickback money is supposed to purchase?
I don't know how feasible it would have been, but IMO the CAA would have been better off cutting out the middle man altogether and selling their games on CAA TV. It shouldn't interfere with any local broadcasting deals that are negotiated. Most every team does the in house production already. Sell season passes at a reasonable rate and a la carte games for visiting fans. I'd argue it would bring in more casual viewers, more alumni, and ultimately generate more money for each school and trickle down to the conference as a whole.
Hell, I'd probably feel better about spending the same cost as I spend on Flo if I knew the money was going back into the Tribe's athletic dept.
The Flo deal makes no sense to me. It is priced out of the range of similar services making it a non starter for all but the most die hard fan. It would be easier to swallow if these high fees were going back into the CAA programs. They aren't. Most of the production is done by the member schools, not Flo. Where are these national games that the Flo kickback money is supposed to purchase?
I don't know how feasible it would have been, but IMO the CAA would have been better off cutting out the middle man altogether and selling their games on CAA TV. It shouldn't interfere with any local broadcasting deals that are negotiated. Most every team does the in house production already. Sell season passes at a reasonable rate and a la carte games for visiting fans. I'd argue it would bring in more casual viewers, more alumni, and ultimately generate more money for each school and trickle down to the conference as a whole.
Hell, I'd probably feel better about spending the same cost as I spend on Flo if I knew the money was going back into the Tribe's athletic dept.
09-15-2021, 03:34 PM
Unfortunately for me, I no longer have cable. So, I don't get the Cox TV package even though it is on where I live. Very satisfied to not have Flo.
I follow the games online via the radio at this point. I already have ESPN+ so it is not a price point for me. I just didn't get Flo initially because I checked out in 2019. Then, when I began following the Tribe again in 2020, COVID hit and it made no sense to make the purchase to me. I elected not to get it this season either. As someone who has watched a lot of games in the past, it is not ideal, but I might be getting used to it now. The lack of exposure for the individual schools and the conference as a whole isn't good. Definitely there was better exposure in the past with Comcast/MASN and NBC Sports, especially for basketball. Hopefully, there will be better opportunities in the future. I thought the quality of the games in 2018 through Tribe TV was pretty good. But, almost certainly even that was less exposure to casual fans that in the past. The JMU/Maine game was listed for streaming on my plan this past Saturday, but it would not load. Not sure what the issue was there. It was listed as a MASN broadcast.
I follow the games online via the radio at this point. I already have ESPN+ so it is not a price point for me. I just didn't get Flo initially because I checked out in 2019. Then, when I began following the Tribe again in 2020, COVID hit and it made no sense to make the purchase to me. I elected not to get it this season either. As someone who has watched a lot of games in the past, it is not ideal, but I might be getting used to it now. The lack of exposure for the individual schools and the conference as a whole isn't good. Definitely there was better exposure in the past with Comcast/MASN and NBC Sports, especially for basketball. Hopefully, there will be better opportunities in the future. I thought the quality of the games in 2018 through Tribe TV was pretty good. But, almost certainly even that was less exposure to casual fans that in the past. The JMU/Maine game was listed for streaming on my plan this past Saturday, but it would not load. Not sure what the issue was there. It was listed as a MASN broadcast.
09-15-2021, 07:37 PM
(09-15-2021 01:00 PM)mrjoolius Wrote: [ -> ]The ESPN package is the obvious move for the league to expand its viewership. Easy access and the greatest viewership.
The Flo deal makes no sense to me. It is priced out of the range of similar services making it a non starter for all but the most die hard fan. It would be easier to swallow if these high fees were going back into the CAA programs. They aren't. Most of the production is done by the member schools, not Flo. Where are these national games that the Flo kickback money is supposed to purchase?
I don't know how feasible it would have been, but IMO the CAA would have been better off cutting out the middle man altogether and selling their games on CAA TV. It shouldn't interfere with any local broadcasting deals that are negotiated. Most every team does the in house production already. Sell season passes at a reasonable rate and a la carte games for visiting fans. I'd argue it would bring in more casual viewers, more alumni, and ultimately generate more money for each school and trickle down to the conference as a whole.
Hell, I'd probably feel better about spending the same cost as I spend on Flo if I knew the money was going back into the Tribe's athletic dept.
My impression is that the CAA doesn't want to be in the media distribution business. Having a provider like Flo that handles the interface to the school feeds makes it so the CAA doesn't have a media distribution staff.
w/r/t the national games, those are the CBSSports basketball games, right?
I think (based on no actual information) ESPN charges schools to be on their platform unless they have some kind of deal like P5 schools. All of that is how we end up with Flo, which is terrible but pays us and allows us to sell the games locally.