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Quote:A piece published in New York Magazine's Intelligencer complained how the media "manufactured" President Biden's "politico fiasco" regarding his handling of the turbulent withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Intelligencer writer Eric Levitz began his piece by touting how the Afghan withdrawal "has yet to cost our nation a single casualty" and that evacuations are proceeding "at a faster pace than the White House had promised."

"In other words, Joe Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan has been a 'disastrous' and 'humiliating' 'fiasco,' in the words of the mainstream media’s ostensibly objective foreign-policy journalists," Levitz wrote. "Yet this political fiasco is not a development that the media covered so much as one that it created."

Levitz acknowledged the Biden administration "made some genuine errors" regarding contingency plans and the resettlement of Afghan refugees, but "as far as conclusions to multi-decade wars go, America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan is thus far proceeding with relatively little chaos and tragedy."

"And it’s far from clear that the withdrawal could have been much more orderly had the White House only executed it in a better ‘way,’" Levitz added.

Levitz knocked "ostensibly neutral correspondents and anchors" for openly editorializing "against the White House’s policy," "assigning Biden near-total responsibility" of Afghanistan's collapse and reporting on the "potential political costs" of his actions.

He then called out New York Times correspondent Declan Walsh, NBC News correspondent Richard Engel, CNN correspondent Clarissa Ward, and CBS News correspondent Bo Erickson for their commentary calling out the Biden administration.

"I articulated my own substantive views on these matters last week…Those views may bespeak the biases of a millennial progressive whose formative years were spent gawking at George W. Bush’s war crimes and reading Noam Chomsky’s lectures. I cannot always prevent my ideological commitments from blinkering my vision. But I can be transparent about those commitments, and test my biased intuitions against the rigors of reasoned argument," Levitz wrote. "The mainstream media’s most influential opponents of Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan refuse to do the same. This refusal may not be conscious. It can be hard to recognize one’s normative assumptions as ideological when those assumptions are commonsense among one’s peers… Nevertheless, the widely shared ideological assumptions and personal experiences of elite U.S. foreign-policy journalists biased mainstream coverage of Afghanistan over the past two weeks."

"Until America’s bleeding-heart correspondents reckon with their field’s endemic biases, their reporting will routinely devolve into advocacy, if not rationalizations, for future bloodshed," Levitz later added.

Link

The Biden Administration’s Ghost Dance


Quote:Near the end of the Indian Wars, the Ghost Dance phenomenon swept through multiple tribes. The movement had two phases. Its inaugural season started in 1869 or 1870, when Northern Paiute tribesman Tävibo first preached the message that the hated white man would soon vanish from the earth while the spirits of Indians long dead would return to life. Unfortunately for Tävibo, he named specific dates when this would take place, and the movement died with the calendar. It was revived in 1889 by Northern Paiute tribesman Wovoka. Avoiding the first go-round’s mistake of naming a specific timeline, its main tenet stated that should the remaining members of the tribe perform the dance accurately and faithfully, the ghosts of ancestors long since passed would return to life and return to the earth as would the herds of buffalo and wild horses that had been hunted to near extinction. Along with the returning animals, the earth itself would return and rejuvenate, first covered with new soil that would bury all the white people and then bursting forth with sweetgrass, trees, and running water. Unsurprisingly the movement caught on among multiple tribes, not the least of which was the Lakota Sioux who added additional elements such as the ghost shirt, made of white muslin with sacred designs added. Its wearers believed the shirt had the power to stop bullets. It didn’t, and the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 ended via death or disillusionment the overwhelming majority of Ghost Dance followers.

At its core, the Ghost Dance was an exercise in extreme wishful thinking, a falsely-placed belief in ceremony and ritual somehow bringing about a supernatural transformation of both the earth and history. It professed that if unrelated, and as it turned out utterly irrelevant, actions and words were performed regarding the bitter truth on hand, a magic utopian state of being would come forth. It didn’t work. It could never work. No such scenario will ever work.

So why is the Biden administration performing its own Ghost Dance?

As Jeff Charles precisely noted here earlier, the administration is carrying on as if the withdrawal from Afghanistan has been, and continues to be, a roaring success. It is anything but. The administration makes jokes about Americans being left behind even as the main conduit for evacuations, namely the Kabul airport, is rapidly becoming a no-man’s land. We are abandoning our allies in the country who almost certainly will pay the ultimate price at the Taliban’s hands for working with the infidels. And yet we see … well, this:



Astonishing.

Life has never been made to be what one wishes it to be by simply wishing. Most of us learn this along the way as we pass from childhood into adulthood. Most of us learn that lying will invariably reap the whirlwind. Most of us accept, perhaps grudgingly but still accept, that actions, including our own, have inescapable consequences. Most of us. The rest have discovered lacking these things is a prerequisite for employment in Washington DC.

The illusion of the last Ghost Dance was shattered in a massacre. I simultaneously pray and fear the current one will persist until faced with the same ghastly horror.
Never miss a chance to pad your thread count, clown.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-927539-post-17...id17577159
Coastal progressives have brain damage.
LOL, successful evacuation of Americans and our allies! I guess that's why we've had 3 suicide bombings today alone, thousands still fearing for their lives as they cannot access the airport, reports of the gates to the airport being welded shut, and other atrocities.

His tweet definitely didn't end well.
(08-26-2021 12:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:A piece published in New York Magazine's Intelligencer complained how the media "manufactured" President Biden's "politico fiasco" regarding his handling of the turbulent withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Intelligencer writer Eric Levitz began his piece by touting how the Afghan withdrawal "has yet to cost our nation a single casualty" and that evacuations are proceeding "at a faster pace than the White House had promised."

"In other words, Joe Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan has been a 'disastrous' and 'humiliating' 'fiasco,' in the words of the mainstream media’s ostensibly objective foreign-policy journalists," Levitz wrote. "Yet this political fiasco is not a development that the media covered so much as one that it created."

Levitz acknowledged the Biden administration "made some genuine errors" regarding contingency plans and the resettlement of Afghan refugees, but "as far as conclusions to multi-decade wars go, America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan is thus far proceeding with relatively little chaos and tragedy."

"And it’s far from clear that the withdrawal could have been much more orderly had the White House only executed it in a better ‘way,’" Levitz added.

Levitz knocked "ostensibly neutral correspondents and anchors" for openly editorializing "against the White House’s policy," "assigning Biden near-total responsibility" of Afghanistan's collapse and reporting on the "potential political costs" of his actions.

He then called out New York Times correspondent Declan Walsh, NBC News correspondent Richard Engel, CNN correspondent Clarissa Ward, and CBS News correspondent Bo Erickson for their commentary calling out the Biden administration.

"I articulated my own substantive views on these matters last week…Those views may bespeak the biases of a millennial progressive whose formative years were spent gawking at George W. Bush’s war crimes and reading Noam Chomsky’s lectures. I cannot always prevent my ideological commitments from blinkering my vision. But I can be transparent about those commitments, and test my biased intuitions against the rigors of reasoned argument," Levitz wrote. "The mainstream media’s most influential opponents of Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan refuse to do the same. This refusal may not be conscious. It can be hard to recognize one’s normative assumptions as ideological when those assumptions are commonsense among one’s peers… Nevertheless, the widely shared ideological assumptions and personal experiences of elite U.S. foreign-policy journalists biased mainstream coverage of Afghanistan over the past two weeks."

"Until America’s bleeding-heart correspondents reckon with their field’s endemic biases, their reporting will routinely devolve into advocacy, if not rationalizations, for future bloodshed," Levitz later added.

Link

The Biden Administration’s Ghost Dance


Quote:Near the end of the Indian Wars, the Ghost Dance phenomenon swept through multiple tribes. The movement had two phases. Its inaugural season started in 1869 or 1870, when Northern Paiute tribesman Tävibo first preached the message that the hated white man would soon vanish from the earth while the spirits of Indians long dead would return to life. Unfortunately for Tävibo, he named specific dates when this would take place, and the movement died with the calendar. It was revived in 1889 by Northern Paiute tribesman Wovoka. Avoiding the first go-round’s mistake of naming a specific timeline, its main tenet stated that should the remaining members of the tribe perform the dance accurately and faithfully, the ghosts of ancestors long since passed would return to life and return to the earth as would the herds of buffalo and wild horses that had been hunted to near extinction. Along with the returning animals, the earth itself would return and rejuvenate, first covered with new soil that would bury all the white people and then bursting forth with sweetgrass, trees, and running water. Unsurprisingly the movement caught on among multiple tribes, not the least of which was the Lakota Sioux who added additional elements such as the ghost shirt, made of white muslin with sacred designs added. Its wearers believed the shirt had the power to stop bullets. It didn’t, and the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 ended via death or disillusionment the overwhelming majority of Ghost Dance followers.

At its core, the Ghost Dance was an exercise in extreme wishful thinking, a falsely-placed belief in ceremony and ritual somehow bringing about a supernatural transformation of both the earth and history. It professed that if unrelated, and as it turned out utterly irrelevant, actions and words were performed regarding the bitter truth on hand, a magic utopian state of being would come forth. It didn’t work. It could never work. No such scenario will ever work.

So why is the Biden administration performing its own Ghost Dance?

As Jeff Charles precisely noted here earlier, the administration is carrying on as if the withdrawal from Afghanistan has been, and continues to be, a roaring success. It is anything but. The administration makes jokes about Americans being left behind even as the main conduit for evacuations, namely the Kabul airport, is rapidly becoming a no-man’s land. We are abandoning our allies in the country who almost certainly will pay the ultimate price at the Taliban’s hands for working with the infidels. And yet we see … well, this:



Astonishing.

Life has never been made to be what one wishes it to be by simply wishing. Most of us learn this along the way as we pass from childhood into adulthood. Most of us learn that lying will invariably reap the whirlwind. Most of us accept, perhaps grudgingly but still accept, that actions, including our own, have inescapable consequences. Most of us. The rest have discovered lacking these things is a prerequisite for employment in Washington DC.

The illusion of the last Ghost Dance was shattered in a massacre. I simultaneously pray and fear the current one will persist until faced with the same ghastly horror.
I'm not on twitter but I clicked on this fool Jon Cooper"s twitter and the tweets on there are insane. These people are in La La Land. They are basically saying, Biden: I know I ran the ship right into that huge Iceberg, but I am getting the Life Rafts out in record time and only the 12 crew members that were in the location where the Iceberg broke a gaping hole in the hull are the only ones that have died, SO FAR. It is hard for me to believe there are that many delusional people in this country. Where do they come from?
(08-26-2021 12:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Never miss a chance to pad your thread count, clown.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-927539-post-17...id17577159

Says the guy with almost TWICE as many posts as "the clown"..... 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
(08-26-2021 03:32 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 12:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Never miss a chance to pad your thread count, clown.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-927539-post-17...id17577159

Says the guy with almost TWICE as many posts as "the clown"..... 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Dumb ****, I've been here nearly 10 years longer!
(08-26-2021 03:09 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]It is hard for me to believe there are that many delusional people in this country. Where do they come from?
To me, that question is like an onion with a thousand layers. And the answer I would give you depends on how many of those layers you want to peel away.

But if you had the time and the patience and the stamina to peel back all of them and get to the true core of the issue, I would say they come from a place — usually a family, a school, or a neighborhood — in which the intellectual water is drawn from the wells of secularism, collectivism, and globalism. Those three sources, if presented skillfully and continuously over the course of a childhood, can be very persuasive.

By the time they’re 17 or so, they have learned to block-out any (or most) contrary information, and they are set for life. After that, events in the news don’t really have any impact on their thinking, and nothing less than the equivalent of a religious conversion will cause them to re-evaluate their stance.
You have almost twice as many posts as me and have only been here a few years more than me. But who's counting right commiepos?
Just heard our "leaders" gave a list of the Americans and Afghans that helped us over there to the Taliban to make sure they get safe passage to the Air Field. Someone should hang for this. You can't be serious.
We are trusting a Terrorist Organization with the lives of Americans.
Quote:“Basically, they just put all those Afghans on a kill list,” said one defense official, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic. “It’s just appalling and shocking and makes you feel unclean.”
commietom <- so much losing
(08-26-2021 03:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]Just heard our "leaders" gave a list of the Americans and Afghans that helped us over there to the Taliban to make sure they get safe passage to the Air Field. Someone should hang for this. You can't be serious.
We are trusting a Terrorist Organization with the lives of Americans.

I saw that. They are literally killing people with no repercussions. And the idiot libtards here are blaming the dead people for getting dead.
I’m betting the editor of that magazine would like a redo button after today.
(08-26-2021 03:39 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 03:09 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]It is hard for me to believe there are that many delusional people in this country. Where do they come from?
To me, that question is like an onion with a thousand layers. And the answer I would give you depends on how many of those layers you want to peel away.

But if you had the time and the patience and the stamina to peel back all of them and get to the true core of the issue, I would say they come from a place — usually a family, a school, or a neighborhood — in which the intellectual water is drawn from the wells of secularism, collectivism, and globalism. Those three sources, if presented skillfully and continuously over the course of a childhood, can be very persuasive.

By the time they’re 17 or so, they have learned to block-out any (or most) contrary information, and they are set for life. After that, events in the news don’t really have any impact on their thinking, and nothing less than the equivalent of a religious conversion will cause them to re-evaluate their stance.

As former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov said when interviewed in the 1980s about ideological subversion, once the process is complete, NOTHING can break through to these people. You can take them and show them the concentration camp but they will refuse to believe what is right in front of their eyes.
(08-26-2021 06:38 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 03:39 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 03:09 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]It is hard for me to believe there are that many delusional people in this country. Where do they come from?
To me, that question is like an onion with a thousand layers. And the answer I would give you depends on how many of those layers you want to peel away.

But if you had the time and the patience and the stamina to peel back all of them and get to the true core of the issue, I would say they come from a place — usually a family, a school, or a neighborhood — in which the intellectual water is drawn from the wells of secularism, collectivism, and globalism. Those three sources, if presented skillfully and continuously over the course of a childhood, can be very persuasive.

By the time they’re 17 or so, they have learned to block-out any (or most) contrary information, and they are set for life. After that, events in the news don’t really have any impact on their thinking, and nothing less than the equivalent of a religious conversion will cause them to re-evaluate their stance.

As former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov said when interviewed in the 1980s about ideological subversion, once the process is complete, NOTHING can break through to these people. You can take them and show them the concentration camp but they will refuse to believe what is right in front of their eyes.

We appear to be witnessing it first hand.
(08-26-2021 12:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:A piece published in New York Magazine's Intelligencer complained how the media "manufactured" President Biden's "politico fiasco" regarding his handling of the turbulent withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Intelligencer writer Eric Levitz began his piece by touting how the Afghan withdrawal "has yet to cost our nation a single casualty" and that evacuations are proceeding "at a faster pace than the White House had promised."

"In other words, Joe Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan has been a 'disastrous' and 'humiliating' 'fiasco,' in the words of the mainstream media’s ostensibly objective foreign-policy journalists," Levitz wrote. "Yet this political fiasco is not a development that the media covered so much as one that it created."

Levitz acknowledged the Biden administration "made some genuine errors" regarding contingency plans and the resettlement of Afghan refugees, but "as far as conclusions to multi-decade wars go, America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan is thus far proceeding with relatively little chaos and tragedy."

"And it’s far from clear that the withdrawal could have been much more orderly had the White House only executed it in a better ‘way,’" Levitz added.

Levitz knocked "ostensibly neutral correspondents and anchors" for openly editorializing "against the White House’s policy," "assigning Biden near-total responsibility" of Afghanistan's collapse and reporting on the "potential political costs" of his actions.

He then called out New York Times correspondent Declan Walsh, NBC News correspondent Richard Engel, CNN correspondent Clarissa Ward, and CBS News correspondent Bo Erickson for their commentary calling out the Biden administration.

"I articulated my own substantive views on these matters last week…Those views may bespeak the biases of a millennial progressive whose formative years were spent gawking at George W. Bush’s war crimes and reading Noam Chomsky’s lectures. I cannot always prevent my ideological commitments from blinkering my vision. But I can be transparent about those commitments, and test my biased intuitions against the rigors of reasoned argument," Levitz wrote. "The mainstream media’s most influential opponents of Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan refuse to do the same. This refusal may not be conscious. It can be hard to recognize one’s normative assumptions as ideological when those assumptions are commonsense among one’s peers… Nevertheless, the widely shared ideological assumptions and personal experiences of elite U.S. foreign-policy journalists biased mainstream coverage of Afghanistan over the past two weeks."

"Until America’s bleeding-heart correspondents reckon with their field’s endemic biases, their reporting will routinely devolve into advocacy, if not rationalizations, for future bloodshed," Levitz later added.

Link

The Biden Administration’s Ghost Dance


Quote:Near the end of the Indian Wars, the Ghost Dance phenomenon swept through multiple tribes. The movement had two phases. Its inaugural season started in 1869 or 1870, when Northern Paiute tribesman Tävibo first preached the message that the hated white man would soon vanish from the earth while the spirits of Indians long dead would return to life. Unfortunately for Tävibo, he named specific dates when this would take place, and the movement died with the calendar. It was revived in 1889 by Northern Paiute tribesman Wovoka. Avoiding the first go-round’s mistake of naming a specific timeline, its main tenet stated that should the remaining members of the tribe perform the dance accurately and faithfully, the ghosts of ancestors long since passed would return to life and return to the earth as would the herds of buffalo and wild horses that had been hunted to near extinction. Along with the returning animals, the earth itself would return and rejuvenate, first covered with new soil that would bury all the white people and then bursting forth with sweetgrass, trees, and running water. Unsurprisingly the movement caught on among multiple tribes, not the least of which was the Lakota Sioux who added additional elements such as the ghost shirt, made of white muslin with sacred designs added. Its wearers believed the shirt had the power to stop bullets. It didn’t, and the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 ended via death or disillusionment the overwhelming majority of Ghost Dance followers.

At its core, the Ghost Dance was an exercise in extreme wishful thinking, a falsely-placed belief in ceremony and ritual somehow bringing about a supernatural transformation of both the earth and history. It professed that if unrelated, and as it turned out utterly irrelevant, actions and words were performed regarding the bitter truth on hand, a magic utopian state of being would come forth. It didn’t work. It could never work. No such scenario will ever work.

So why is the Biden administration performing its own Ghost Dance?

As Jeff Charles precisely noted here earlier, the administration is carrying on as if the withdrawal from Afghanistan has been, and continues to be, a roaring success. It is anything but. The administration makes jokes about Americans being left behind even as the main conduit for evacuations, namely the Kabul airport, is rapidly becoming a no-man’s land. We are abandoning our allies in the country who almost certainly will pay the ultimate price at the Taliban’s hands for working with the infidels. And yet we see … well, this:



Astonishing.

Life has never been made to be what one wishes it to be by simply wishing. Most of us learn this along the way as we pass from childhood into adulthood. Most of us learn that lying will invariably reap the whirlwind. Most of us accept, perhaps grudgingly but still accept, that actions, including our own, have inescapable consequences. Most of us. The rest have discovered lacking these things is a prerequisite for employment in Washington DC.

The illusion of the last Ghost Dance was shattered in a massacre. I simultaneously pray and fear the current one will persist until faced with the same ghastly horror.

This was one of the quickest biggest fails in history.
Not a single resignation, nobody willing to say they fricked up, not a soul in Congress taking action to hold Joe accountable for the biggest foreign policy failure in US history.

Abandoning Americans, equipment, allies, not listening to warnings, and saying none of this would happen just a month ago.

This will all be forgotten very soon.
(08-27-2021 10:05 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: [ -> ]Not a single resignation, nobody willing to say they fricked up, not a soul in Congress taking action to hold Joe accountable for the biggest foreign policy failure in US history.

Abandoning Americans, equipment, allies, not listening to warnings, and saying none of this would happen just a month ago.

This will all be forgotten very soon.

No it won't. We have double the troops there today than the day Trump left office. We will be there till the mid terms. It's just starting. We nuked an ISIS leader an hour ago.
(08-26-2021 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 03:32 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-26-2021 12:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Never miss a chance to pad your thread count, clown.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-927539-post-17...id17577159

Says the guy with almost TWICE as many posts as "the clown"..... 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Dumb ****, I've been here nearly 10 years longer!


dumb*** - that means you post a nearly the same rate as he does.......
(08-26-2021 12:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Never miss a chance to pad your thread count, clown.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-927539-post-17...id17577159

Yep, the truth must really gnaw away at your mental disease.[/quote]
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