Follow the 'science" till it doesn't agree with the agenda. Then find "alternative science" to support the agenda.
You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
Again, I’m more concerned about the long term effects of the “jab”.
(06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
(06-22-2021 09:09 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
Shh, don't follow THAT science!
Why would anyone be surprised that vaccinated people can still get COVID? The vaccine is not a cure. Never has been a cure, never will be a cure. The vaccine, like the flu vaccine, decreases symptons and prevents severe hospitalizations. For some reason people think getting the vaccine will prevent those vaccianted from actually acquiring the virus. That simply isn't the case It astounds me at the number of people that simply can't grasp this simple cocept.
(06-22-2021 09:10 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone be surprised that vaccinated people can still get COVID? The vaccine is not a cure. Never has been a cure, never will be a cure. The vaccine, like the flu vaccine, decreases symptons and prevents severe hospitalizations. For some reason people think getting the vaccine will prevent those vaccianted from actually acquiring the virus. That simply isn't the case It astounds me at the number of people that simply can't grasp this simple cocept.
True but that means it isn't a "vaccine" at all
(06-22-2021 09:08 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I’m more concerned about the long term effects of the “jab”.
So, you basically have no concerns.
mRNA vaccines don't alter any DNA and the body handles them in a matter of weeks. We've been researching and using them for years now. There's just never been a real need for a mass vaccination program until now.
For the VAST majority of us, the risk is next to nothing.
(06-22-2021 09:10 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone be surprised that vaccinated people can still get COVID? The vaccine is not a cure. Never has been a cure, never will be a cure. The vaccine, like the flu vaccine, decreases symptons and prevents severe hospitalizations. For some reason people think getting the vaccine will prevent those vaccianted from actually acquiring the virus. That simply isn't the case It astounds me at the number of people that simply can't grasp this simple cocept.
The media and our government are directly correlating the jab with people being able to be around each other more and not spreading the virus. This alone insinuates not that symptoms have decreased but that the shot is effective at preventing the spread of the Wuhan flu.
As for the flu shot, it is a cocktail of the 4 strains predicted to be most prevalent during that particular flu season. So, in those cases it is effective, but the reason it isn't always is because, like what happened a few years ago, they got it wrong.
(06-22-2021 09:09 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
No, it's not. And without the vaccines, we'd never get back to any sort of normalcy. The survival rate is anywhere from 97% to 99% in countries around the world. Yeah, .9% to 2.9% may not sound like much, but then you apply it to millions and millions of people, it's not a small number.
(06-22-2021 09:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:10 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone be surprised that vaccinated people can still get COVID? The vaccine is not a cure. Never has been a cure, never will be a cure. The vaccine, like the flu vaccine, decreases symptons and prevents severe hospitalizations. For some reason people think getting the vaccine will prevent those vaccianted from actually acquiring the virus. That simply isn't the case It astounds me at the number of people that simply can't grasp this simple cocept.
True but that means it isn't a "vaccine" at all
Explain.
This should be good......
(06-22-2021 09:17 AM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:09 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
You know he's wrong, right?
Over a billion people have gotten vaccinated, and dozens of clinical studies have confirmed its effectiveness, its short-term safety and its medium-term safety.
The "long-term effects" of a medicine are almost never as bad as the short-term effects. Sure, there's technically a risk, but it's significantly lower than most risks we take on a day-to-day basis (and historically, it's lower than your risk of dying from COVID, so don't be such a pu$$y about it).
If long-term health risks are so important to you, then I trust you've also sworn off coffee, alcohol, and red meat?
I bet you folks who are so afraid of this vaccine are probably the same morons who are still wearing a mask in a car while driving alone (just in case!).
(06-22-2021 09:09 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
I was gonna say - seems I remember seeing 99.9% survival rate somewhere else
(06-22-2021 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:17 AM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:09 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be this stupid...can you?
Quote:The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.
As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.
Most studies put the vaccine effective percentage rates somewhere in the low to mid 90's. So for MA, about 99.9% of the vaccines were effective.
Idiot indeed!
That's weird - that is the survival rate for those who contracted the virus without having taken the vaccine too?
You know he's wrong, right?
Once you parse out those who died
from covid versus those who died
with covid, it is pretty damn close.
(06-22-2021 09:25 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]I bet you folks who are so afraid of this vaccine are probably the same morons who are still wearing a mask in a car while driving alone (just in case!).
The ones of us who aren’t vaccinated never did wear a mask, idiot.
(06-22-2021 09:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2021 09:08 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I’m more concerned about the long term effects of the “jab”.
So, you basically have no concerns.
mRNA vaccines don't alter any DNA and the body handles them in a matter of weeks. We've been researching and using them for years now. There's just never been a real need for a mass vaccination program until now.
For the VAST majority of us, the risk is next to nothing.
Sounds exactly like the Corona virus