Quote:"First-round games would take place on campus sometime during the two-week period after conference championship games"
https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/...posal.aspx
Is the Army-Navy game in danger?
Obviously Army-Navy is a one of the most traditional games in college football. However, the 1st round of the playoff would garner a lot more attention.
(06-11-2021 07:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ]
Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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I don't think that is true, I don't think they are watching any of us.
I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Notre Dame, Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I agree, but AAC expansion to gather the “best of rest” is more realistic. In effect, it would be a P6 type conference.
Just two days or so ago, I thought AAC expansion was dead. Things can change in a hurry….
Agree with both of you. There is no reason for the B12 to expand now unless additions bring them extra money. The reality is that B12 gets their money from having Texas and OU there. None of our schools will increase their per member payout as shown by our tv contract.
The AAC expanding to 14 with BYU, Boise and SDSU makes sense for all involved. It makes the league the most powerful of those fighting for the 6th bid, strengthening schedule and by only playing two cross divisional games limits chances of our championship being a rematch.
The league will have probably 2 years to iron out the steps for additions.
Someone mentioned BYU schedules but not as bad as some think BYU can keep the 3-4 games they have scheduled with P teams and it has already schedule about 3 games with AAC and Boise each season so the games they would have to cancel are 1-1 deals vs nonP teams.
(06-10-2021 11:29 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:11 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ]Being a bottom feeder in the AAC isn't anything to be proud of either. Memphis is one of the sacred cows that has held this conference up. Having our president being one of the guys asked to be at the negotiating table to move us forward as a conference was huge for all of us.
Quit bitching.
Sacred cow? Where are your going? Big 12 ain’t calling. They want the Arizona schools and if they can’t get them it’s UCF/USF.
The four schools are Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, and Houston. Those are the sacred cows. USF fan starts bull**** about Memphis holding us back is fkng bull****.
Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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Sources? They weren't five years ago......Talk to Triple A. You're friends.
True back then in 2016, but I have no clue now. It was an aberration then b/c of the clause in the Big 12 contract allowing more teams to enter at the same money, but that's when ESPN balked and threatened the Big 12 with future contract consequences, and the Big 12 folded.
I don't buy the UCF/USF thing, either. I have no clue where the Big 12 now stands, but like anybody else, including the AAC, they are not adding anyone that doesn't add value to the contract.
I do agree that if they had a preference, it would likely be the Arizona schools. I also think UCF is a lot more attractive than it was back then, and is probably the #1 G5 at the moment. Then Boise, BYU, Cincy, Memphis and Houston are in the mix, although I don't think anybody is going anywhere.
Plus, if the new CFP proposal goes through, being in the AAC won't be such a huge disadvantage, at least for opportunity to make the CFP. I bet the money isn't distributed evenly, though, just like now.
(06-11-2021 08:06 AM)8BitPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ]
Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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I don't think that is true, I don't think they are watching any of us.
I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I would argue, any AAC team making the playoffs is on display for poaching by a "better funded" conference. Go deep enough (or Lord forbid, win the damn thing) and folks will be talking. Pull a multi-playoff run like UCF would have done a few years back and I'd be surprised if there wasn't movement.
Playoff teams will have monetary value now and if your a multi-year playoff team, you might be worth the investment of inclusion. Just my 2 1/3 cents.
Big12 has shown an unwillingness to expand. West Virginia has been a huge failure and now they are stuck on an island.
I think Arkansas and Nebraska are legit candidates for Big12 with the CFP expansion news.
Arkansas has an easier path to a 1st round Bye if they join the Big12. SEC West has been dominated by Alabama. Arkansas would arguably be more competitive in the Big12 than the SEC.
Nebraska going back to the Big12 would be well received by their fan base. They feel out of place in the Big10. Haven't had any success since leaving.
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From a UCF perspective, now that UCF has a path to the CFP it really diminishes the need to move. TV money is the only major factor.
Miami won multiple Big East titles and was constantly in the National title chase but then left for the ACC and hasn't won a division title. At one point the Big East name was synonymous with the Miami. Now UCF is has helped build the AAC brand. UCF is one of the flagships for the conference. If UCF can make it to the CFP as the AAC champ, that's all it needs. UCF finally has a rivalry game with War on I-4 and ESPN values the game. The money will flow with popularity. I'd rather be a flagship in the AAC than an island in the Big12.
Cincy or Memphis feel like better fits for the Big12 than UCF. Cincy can be a travel partner with WVU. Bring back the Keg of Nails. Memphis is closer to the Big12 footprint.
I'm off the UCF to the Big12 bandwagon with the CFP expansion news. Proud member of the AAC.
(06-11-2021 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:29 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]Sacred cow? Where are your going? Big 12 ain’t calling. They want the Arizona schools and if they can’t get them it’s UCF/USF.
The four schools are Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, and Houston. Those are the sacred cows. USF fan starts bull**** about Memphis holding us back is fkng bull****.
Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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Sources? They weren't five years ago......Talk to Triple A. You're friends.
True back then in 2016, but I have no clue now. It was an aberration then b/c of the clause in the Big 12 contract allowing more teams to enter at the same money, but that's when ESPN balked and threatened the Big 12 with future contract consequences, and the Big 12 folded.
I don't buy the UCF/USF thing, either. I have no clue where the Big 12 now stands, but like anybody else, including the AAC, they are not adding anyone that doesn't add value to the contract.
I do agree that if they had a preference, it would likely be the Arizona schools. I also think UCF is a lot more attractive than it was back then, and is probably the #1 G5 at the moment. Then Boise, BYU, Cincy, Memphis and Houston are in the mix, although I don't think anybody is going anywhere.
Plus, if the new CFP proposal goes through, being in the AAC won't be such a huge disadvantage, at least for opportunity to make the CFP. I bet the money isn't distributed evenly, though, just like now.
Exactly the money will still probably go as it does now to the P leagues, I am looking to see if there is separation in writing between the AAC and the G4 other than money that goes to the league that gets a playoff spot.
For those thinking that an AAC school being attractive to B12 by making playoff spots. I doubt it, right now getting into NY6 or playoffs pays an extra 4 million per team. That’s not enough to move the needle that they would lose in splitting CFP league money and TV money by another mouth.
(06-11-2021 09:07 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 07:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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I don't think that is true, I don't think they are watching any of us.
I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Notre Dame, Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I agree, but AAC expansion to gather the “best of rest” is more realistic. In effect, it would be a P6 type conference.
Just two days or so ago, I thought AAC expansion was dead. Things can change in a hurry….
Agree with both of you. There is no reason for the B12 to expand now unless additions bring them extra money. The reality is that B12 gets their money from having Texas and OU there. None of our schools will increase their per member payout as shown by our tv contract.
The AAC expanding to 14 with BYU, Boise and SDSU makes sense for all involved. It makes the league the most powerful of those fighting for the 6th bid, strengthening schedule and by only playing two cross divisional games limits chances of our championship being a rematch.
The league will have probably 2 years to iron out the steps for additions.
Someone mentioned BYU schedules but not as bad as some think BYU can keep the 3-4 games they have scheduled with P teams and it has already schedule about 3 games with AAC and Boise each season so the games they would have to cancel are 1-1 deals vs nonP teams.
I agree with all this! You explained it better than I did too.
I'll retract my BYU schedule criticism, there are a lot of AAC games I didn't account for.
BYU 2023 Schedule:
Keep:
09/02 - Tennessee
09/09 - at Virginia
09/23 - at Arkansas
11/25 - at USC
Dump: (5)
09/16 - at Utah State
09/29 - Rice
10/07 - at Fresno State
11/04 - UNLV
11/18 - Southern Utah
In Conference:
10/21 - Boise State
10/28 - USF
11/11 - at UCF
(06-11-2021 09:17 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 08:06 AM)8BitPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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I don't think that is true, I don't think they are watching any of us.
I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I would argue, any AAC team making the playoffs is on display for poaching by a "better funded" conference. Go deep enough (or Lord forbid, win the damn thing) and folks will be talking. Pull a multi-playoff run like UCF would have done a few years back and I'd be surprised if there wasn't movement.
Playoff teams will have monetary value now and if your a multi-year playoff team, you might be worth the investment of inclusion. Just my 2 1/3 cents.
Big12 has shown an unwillingness to expand. West Virginia has been a huge failure and now they are stuck on an island.
I think Arkansas and Nebraska are legit candidates for Big12 with the CFP expansion news.
Arkansas has an easier path to a 1st round Bye if they join the Big12. SEC West has been dominated by Alabama. Arkansas would arguably be more competitive in the Big12 than the SEC.
Nebraska going back to the Big12 would be well received by their fan base. They feel out of place in the Big10. Haven't had any success since leaving.
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From a UCF perspective, now that UCF has a path to the CFP it really diminishes the need to move. TV money is the only major factor.
Miami won multiple Big East titles and was constantly in the National title chase but then left for the ACC and hasn't won a division title. At one point the Big East name was synonymous with the Miami. Now UCF is has helped build the AAC brand. UCF is one of the flagships for the conference. If UCF can make it to the CFP as the AAC champ, that's all it needs. UCF finally has a rivalry game with War on I-4 and ESPN values the game. The money will flow with popularity. I'd rather be a flagship in the AAC than an island in the Big12.
Cincy/Memphis feel like better fits for the Big12 than UCF. Cincy can be a travel partner with WVU. Bring back the Keg of Nails. Memphis is closer to the Big12 footprint.
I'm off the UCF to the Big12 bandwagon with the CFP expansion news. Proud member of the AAC.
I do not want to be in an AAC where the best teams have all left. Cincinnati and Memphis leaving would upend the entire position this conference sits in just as much as it would UCF leaving the AAC. This is only a good conference for as long as the current (and future western prospects) members are part of it and committed to securing that 6th spot, otherwise we're just the Sun Belt with higher budgets.
(06-10-2021 08:54 PM)usffan Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:They should be popping champagne in the American Athletic Conference’s new Dallas-area office. UCF head coach Gus Malzahn tweeted that it’s a game-changer. Quite frankly, it’s hard to imagine a realistic expansion scenario any better for the G5 than this one. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco couldn’t hide his excitement.
“This is a milestone day,” Aresco said. “This is a good, sound plan, and it was well thought out.”
“Now a recruit knows that they truly can accomplish all their goals at any school,” Memphis head coach Ryan Silverfield said in a text message. Memphis played in the 2019 Cotton Bowl as the top-ranked G5 conference champion.
Quote:Aresco has pushed for an automatic bid for the AAC on its own, often using the “Power 6” motto. This isn’t quite that, but recent history would indicate the AAC is the most likely G5 conference to get a spot. It has produced the top-ranked G5 champion in five of the seven CFP years, including each of the past four.
Aresco still wants his conference to join the “Autonomy 5” one day, and he believes this format will help the AAC in that ultimate goal. Aresco was effusive in his praise for P5 leaders and the working group and said he didn’t make any calls to them to lobby, but he’d done plenty of that in larger groups and publicly. More than that, the fact the league has produced three undefeated teams in the regular season in the past four years and not sniffed the top four certainly helped knock down that door.
“I think it’s a significant step to possibly dissolving the concept of the G5,” Aresco said of the new playoff proposal.
The American’s success and public campaigning do frustrate some from other G5 conferences (as does Aresco’s outspokenness and tendency to refer to the “G4”). One Sun Belt athletic director feels that one loss doesn’t eliminate AAC teams from the current New Year’s Six spot in the eyes of the CFP committee, but it often does for another G5 team. This AD wishes the number of proposed auto-bids was seven instead of six but knows it’s still better than the current set-up.
“Historically, it’s probably going to be an American team, maybe a Mountain West team sneaks in there once in a while,” the Sun Belt AD said of the 12-team format, on the condition of anonymity. “I just felt like (two G5 bids) would be more equitable between the two levels. But I also recognize the purpose of going to 12 teams is not hinged upon Group of 5 opportunities.”
USFFan
This answers my question re Aresco and this process. He may not have made calls or been in the room but he was damn sure living rent free in their heads. IMHO he's earned his salary based on this alone.
Thanks commissioner.
(06-11-2021 10:09 AM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 09:17 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 08:06 AM)8BitPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:40 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think that is true, I don't think they are watching any of us.
I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I would argue, any AAC team making the playoffs is on display for poaching by a "better funded" conference. Go deep enough (or Lord forbid, win the damn thing) and folks will be talking. Pull a multi-playoff run like UCF would have done a few years back and I'd be surprised if there wasn't movement.
Playoff teams will have monetary value now and if your a multi-year playoff team, you might be worth the investment of inclusion. Just my 2 1/3 cents.
Big12 has shown an unwillingness to expand. West Virginia has been a huge failure and now they are stuck on an island.
I think Arkansas and Nebraska are legit candidates for Big12 with the CFP expansion news.
Arkansas has an easier path to a 1st round Bye if they join the Big12. SEC West has been dominated by Alabama. Arkansas would arguably be more competitive in the Big12 than the SEC.
Nebraska going back to the Big12 would be well received by their fan base. They feel out of place in the Big10. Haven't had any success since leaving.
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From a UCF perspective, now that UCF has a path to the CFP it really diminishes the need to move. TV money is the only major factor.
Miami won multiple Big East titles and was constantly in the National title chase but then left for the ACC and hasn't won a division title. At one point the Big East name was synonymous with the Miami. Now UCF is has helped build the AAC brand. UCF is one of the flagships for the conference. If UCF can make it to the CFP as the AAC champ, that's all it needs. UCF finally has a rivalry game with War on I-4 and ESPN values the game. The money will flow with popularity. I'd rather be a flagship in the AAC than an island in the Big12.
Cincy/Memphis feel like better fits for the Big12 than UCF. Cincy can be a travel partner with WVU. Bring back the Keg of Nails. Memphis is closer to the Big12 footprint.
I'm off the UCF to the Big12 bandwagon with the CFP expansion news. Proud member of the AAC.
I do not want to be in an AAC where the best teams have all left. Cincinnati and Memphis leaving would upend the entire position this conference sits in just as much as it would UCF leaving the AAC. This is only a good conference for as long as the current (and future western prospects) members are part of it and committed to securing that 6th spot, otherwise we're just the Sun Belt with higher budgets.
They would only take 1 team. Cincy and Memphis is a big blow. Cincy or Memphis is tolerable.
The sky was falling when West Virginia and Louisville left. Now you hardly ever hear about them? When was the last time West Virginia and Louisville were relevant?
UCF going to the Big12 alone isn't worth it.
I agree, AAC securing the 6th spot is crucial. BYU, Boise State, and SDSU additions would be amazing.
Why isn’t Jen Kirk commenting on this? He should be ecstatic right?
Or is he really a Nova fan after all?
(06-11-2021 10:29 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 10:09 AM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 09:17 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 08:06 AM)8BitPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 06:51 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ]I think the CFP expansion update effectively kills Big12 expansion. They are getting multiple teams to the CFP in the 12 team format. They already have one of the better TV payout per school.
The Big12 perspective would be add a single big name like Nebraska, Arkansas or stay at the current number.
I would argue, any AAC team making the playoffs is on display for poaching by a "better funded" conference. Go deep enough (or Lord forbid, win the damn thing) and folks will be talking. Pull a multi-playoff run like UCF would have done a few years back and I'd be surprised if there wasn't movement.
Playoff teams will have monetary value now and if your a multi-year playoff team, you might be worth the investment of inclusion. Just my 2 1/3 cents.
Big12 has shown an unwillingness to expand. West Virginia has been a huge failure and now they are stuck on an island.
I think Arkansas and Nebraska are legit candidates for Big12 with the CFP expansion news.
Arkansas has an easier path to a 1st round Bye if they join the Big12. SEC West has been dominated by Alabama. Arkansas would arguably be more competitive in the Big12 than the SEC.
Nebraska going back to the Big12 would be well received by their fan base. They feel out of place in the Big10. Haven't had any success since leaving.
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From a UCF perspective, now that UCF has a path to the CFP it really diminishes the need to move. TV money is the only major factor.
Miami won multiple Big East titles and was constantly in the National title chase but then left for the ACC and hasn't won a division title. At one point the Big East name was synonymous with the Miami. Now UCF is has helped build the AAC brand. UCF is one of the flagships for the conference. If UCF can make it to the CFP as the AAC champ, that's all it needs. UCF finally has a rivalry game with War on I-4 and ESPN values the game. The money will flow with popularity. I'd rather be a flagship in the AAC than an island in the Big12.
Cincy/Memphis feel like better fits for the Big12 than UCF. Cincy can be a travel partner with WVU. Bring back the Keg of Nails. Memphis is closer to the Big12 footprint.
I'm off the UCF to the Big12 bandwagon with the CFP expansion news. Proud member of the AAC.
I do not want to be in an AAC where the best teams have all left. Cincinnati and Memphis leaving would upend the entire position this conference sits in just as much as it would UCF leaving the AAC. This is only a good conference for as long as the current (and future western prospects) members are part of it and committed to securing that 6th spot, otherwise we're just the Sun Belt with higher budgets.
They would only take 1 team. Cincy and Memphis is a big blow. Cincy or Memphis is tolerable.
The sky was falling when West Virginia and Louisville left. Now you hardly ever hear about them? When was the last time West Virginia and Louisville were relevant?
UCF going to the Big12 alone isn't worth it.
I agree, AAC securing the 6th spot is crucial. BYU, Boise State, and SDSU additions would be amazing.
The fact is that this news makes it less likely the Big12 will expand. Their only reason for doing so would be bigger money and the facts are that adding any AACschool will not increase their per member share. As I said before it is Texas and OU that bring that league the big money. There isn’t any AAC school that would increase their payout per member, so why would they add more mouths and put their CFP bid at risk to their schools.
We will see what the new contract financials are like but if they are like the current ones they wouldn’t get extra money as a league for new members.
The AAC just got access to the playoffs, let’s focus on that rather than discussing who will the B12 add which has now become less likely to happen
(06-11-2021 07:35 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 09:16 PM)usffan Wrote: [ -> ]
Of COURSE it's the two senators from Connecticut who came out against this!
USFFan
Hmmm... The Crypt Keeper and the Vaultkeeper speak
lol....do they really think athletes would be AGAINST a change in the playoff system that will allow MORE athletes the opportunity to compete for the national championship? The dumb things things said by elected officials never ceases to amaze me.
(06-11-2021 09:22 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 09:16 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:29 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:19 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 11:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote: [ -> ]The four schools are Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, and Houston. Those are the sacred cows. USF fan starts bull**** about Memphis holding us back is fkng bull****.
Ucf is the only one the Big 12 is watching
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Sources? They weren't five years ago......Talk to Triple A. You're friends.
True back then in 2016, but I have no clue now. It was an aberration then b/c of the clause in the Big 12 contract allowing more teams to enter at the same money, but that's when ESPN balked and threatened the Big 12 with future contract consequences, and the Big 12 folded.
I don't buy the UCF/USF thing, either. I have no clue where the Big 12 now stands, but like anybody else, including the AAC, they are not adding anyone that doesn't add value to the contract.
I do agree that if they had a preference, it would likely be the Arizona schools. I also think UCF is a lot more attractive than it was back then, and is probably the #1 G5 at the moment. Then Boise, BYU, Cincy, Memphis and Houston are in the mix, although I don't think anybody is going anywhere.
Plus, if the new CFP proposal goes through, being in the AAC won't be such a huge disadvantage, at least for opportunity to make the CFP. I bet the money isn't distributed evenly, though, just like now.
Exactly the money will still probably go as it does now to the P leagues, I am looking to see if there is separation in writing between the AAC and the G4 other than money that goes to the league that gets a playoff spot.
For those thinking that an AAC school being attractive to B12 by making playoff spots. I doubt it, right now getting into NY6 or playoffs pays an extra 4 million per team. That’s not enough to move the needle that they would lose in splitting CFP league money and TV money by another mouth.
Thats the interesting thing about the language used in this deal. There is really no separation between ANYBODY. The language treats everyone---P5, G5, indy, AAC, and G4---all the same. The way I see it---while I'd love for Houston to get a golden ticket to a P5---now that my school has a real legit path to the playoff---life in the AAC isnt all that bad. The AAC is a perfectly viable long term home at this point---especially if we are able to add Boise, BYU, and SDSU over the next few years.
Why would SDSU and Boise leave for a nation wide conference they’ll never win, thus never making the playoff.
They can win the MWC some years and get in this playoff.
why would existing P5 conference members want to make it harder on themselves by bringing in more good teams via expansion. they are already making big money and are about to make even more. theres no upside to expansion. the other side of coin is if you are a big dog in the AAC why would you want to have your path to a playoff spot blocked by oklahoma or texas every year. the road is smoother in the AAC. this format is great on several levels, calming conference churn, giving coaches less pressure to leave great G5 jobs for crappy P5 and tilts the table back towards fairness in the free transfer and NIL rules and removing the recruiting glass ceiling
(06-11-2021 10:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 07:35 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 09:16 PM)usffan Wrote: [ -> ]
Of COURSE it's the two senators from Connecticut who came out against this!
USFFan
Hmmm... The Crypt Keeper and the Vaultkeeper speak
lol....do they really think athletes would be AGAINST a change in the playoff system that will allow MORE athletes the opportunity to compete for the national championship? The dumb things things said by elected officials never ceases to amaze me.
I think the argument is the risk of injury factor. It's a weak argument considering the NFL now plays 17 regular season games. Players will be paid via NIL soon.
Can you imagine the NIL money some of these players are going to make if they make it to the CFP? To be a college football player featured in a commercial during the peak shopping holiday season....Players are going to be sitting pretty. More teams and more games in December is only helping their brand.
(06-11-2021 10:53 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Why would SDSU and Boise leave for a nation wide conference they’ll never win, thus never making the playoff.
They can win the MWC some years and get in this playoff.
Maybe they wont. They decided to join us in 2011 and then reversed course in late 2012 when conditions in the Big East/AAC deteriorated and Boise was offered a special deal by the MW. That special deal is probably going away--so that could be a "trigger" that makes a jump to the AAC more likely. Frankly, based on what Ive seen thus far---I think Boise joining is fairly likely---certainly more likely than BYU. But grabbing BYU, Boise, and SDSU makes the AAC a really intriguing conference who's champ is probably going to be in the playoff most every year. I think thats absoutely a worthy goal and a million times more attractive than adding some random brandless nondescript eastern G5 like UAB, Buffalo, or Georgia St.
Ok, ya'll convinced me that this move makes realignment almost moot and that adding Boise, BYU, and Team X would secure the conferences position 90% of the time in the playoffs. So is raiding MWC back on the menu?
(06-11-2021 10:58 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 10:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2021 07:35 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-10-2021 09:16 PM)usffan Wrote: [ -> ]
Of COURSE it's the two senators from Connecticut who came out against this!
USFFan
Hmmm... The Crypt Keeper and the Vaultkeeper speak
lol....do they really think athletes would be AGAINST a change in the playoff system that will allow MORE athletes the opportunity to compete for the national championship? The dumb things things said by elected officials never ceases to amaze me.
I think the argument is the risk of injury factor. It's a weak argument considering the NFL now plays 17 regular season games. Players will be paid via NIL soon.
Can you imagine the NIL money some of these players are going to make if they make it to the CFP? To be a college football player featured in a commercial during the peak shopping holiday season....Players are going to be sitting pretty. More teams and more games in December is only helping their brand.
Blumanthal wants them to get a piece of the TV/CFP deals. The problem is the players would probably have to be employees of the school and thats a HUGE issue for the schools and complete upending of any semblance of the amateur college model that has been the bedrock of college sports for as long as I can remember.
To me there's a very wild west vibe going on right now with nobody really sure about the ramifications of this CFP expansion, which is giving rise to millions of speculative posts. Only time will tell what's really going to happen. I personally think this is likely to quell some of the realignment fervor.
To me, the next domino to fall will be the waiver about the AAC's championship game. I've speculated that I think other conferences will have a very vested interest in moving away from divisions to avoid their champion getting screwed over and/or costing them a shot at a bye. And if we're able to stay divisionless, I think the rush to find number 12 dissapears.
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