(05-28-2021 02:54 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote: [ -> ]Manieri retires from LSU.
Manieri-coached teams eliminated Rice from a lot of NCAA tournaments:
2002 - eliminated by Notre Dame from CWS
2008 - eliminated by LSU from CWS
2009 - eliminated by LSU in Super Regional
2016 - eliminated by LSU in Regionals
2017 - eliminated by LSU in Regionals
(05-28-2021 03:10 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:12 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know if JK is working with a committee, RBI Club guys etc.? Just curious what guidance he may be seeking or using if any.
Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
RBI was just an example should there be qualified individuals that he could consult. I have no idea again just an example. I would hope some of the boosters at least are consulted. Not necessarily for approval but for guidance.
We weren't last time and don't expect that we will this time round either.
(05-28-2021 03:02 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:06 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd bet heavy money on Sean Allen or Matt Hobbs being JK's choice.
If that were true why would JK have said that a replacement could very well be named within 10 days, and certainly within 3 weeks? Arkansas is almost certainly going to be in Omaha as the #1 national seed, and Texas will be a national seed and likely Omaha participant, as well.
Both are assistants. They can be "named" without having to leave their current job until their season ends.
(05-28-2021 03:46 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:12 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know if JK is working with a committee, RBI Club guys etc.? Just curious what guidance he may be seeking or using if any.
Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
I don’t think your characterization of the RBI board level of financial commitment is accurate.
??? I'm pretty sure it is. The vast majority of the current RBI Board consists of ex-players who (with the exception of one or two) are not major supporters of the program. I believe only one of the three Board members who are not former players is a major booster....and by major booster I mean someone who has provided $10,000+ in support annually or who has given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years.
(05-28-2021 04:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:10 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:12 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know if JK is working with a committee, RBI Club guys etc.? Just curious what guidance he may be seeking or using if any.
Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
RBI was just an example should there be qualified individuals that he could consult. I have no idea again just an example. I would hope some of the boosters at least are consulted. Not necessarily for approval but for guidance.
We weren't last time and don't expect that we will this time round either.
I believe that to be a mistake. Too many voices bad, not enough (experienced/well informed voices) good.
(05-28-2021 02:54 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote: [ -> ]Manieri retires from LSU.
There was strong sentiment on TigerRant that he be fired, so his retirement may not have been voluntary.
(05-28-2021 07:14 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:54 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote: [ -> ]Manieri retires from LSU.
There was strong sentiment on TigerRant that he be fired, so his retirement may not have been voluntary.
I don't buy that. He retired because he was ill with migraines the past couple years which were increasingly effecting his ability to coach.
(05-28-2021 07:32 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 07:14 PM)Ranger Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:54 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote: [ -> ]Manieri retires from LSU.
There was strong sentiment on TigerRant that he be fired, so his retirement may not have been voluntary.
I don't buy that. He retired because he was ill with migraines the past couple years which were increasingly effecting his ability to coach.
It is what it is. The sentiment on TigerRant mirrored Rice threads about Bragga.
(05-28-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:46 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:12 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know if JK is working with a committee, RBI Club guys etc.? Just curious what guidance he may be seeking or using if any.
Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
I don’t think your characterization of the RBI board level of financial commitment is accurate.
??? I'm pretty sure it is. The vast majority of the current RBI Board consists of ex-players who (with the exception of one or two) are not major supporters of the program. I believe only one of the three Board members who are not former players is a major booster....and by major booster I mean someone who has provided $10,000+ in support annually or who has given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years.
Whatever you define as big donor is Walt specific. The reality is current RBI members are responsible for more than 35% of SIG donations. Hardly not enough to qualify to be in a search committee.
(05-28-2021 09:23 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:46 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 02:12 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know if JK is working with a committee, RBI Club guys etc.? Just curious what guidance he may be seeking or using if any.
Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
I don’t think your characterization of the RBI board level of financial commitment is accurate.
??? I'm pretty sure it is. The vast majority of the current RBI Board consists of ex-players who (with the exception of one or two) are not major supporters of the program. I believe only one of the three Board members who are not former players is a major booster....and by major booster I mean someone who has provided $10,000+ in support annually or who has given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years.
Whatever you define as big donor is Walt specific. The reality is current RBI members are responsible for more than 35% of SIG donations. Hardly not enough to qualify to be in a search committee.
Are you saying current RBI Club Board members account for 35% of RBI Club donations? That may, in reality, be true, but only because the annual donations have dropped over 50% since the new RBI Club was reformed after Wayne left. I believe I was told that this year's total dues was under $100,000. Wayne's last year we had 10 donors who gave $10,000+. Only three of those remain. And the number of RBI Club members (the majority of whom give $1,000 annually) has declined significantly under the new regime.
And, BTW, the reason I used "major booster" in my response is because I was responding to another poster who suggested that Jk should be seeking input from RBI Club Board members, assuming that were the major supporters of the program.
(05-28-2021 09:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 09:23 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:46 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:04 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]Good question. I know he hired a firm to help identify candidates last time. Why in the world would he go to the RBI Club board. With only a couple exceptions, the biggest baseball boosters/supporters are not are the RBI Club board.
I don’t think your characterization of the RBI board level of financial commitment is accurate.
??? I'm pretty sure it is. The vast majority of the current RBI Board consists of ex-players who (with the exception of one or two) are not major supporters of the program. I believe only one of the three Board members who are not former players is a major booster....and by major booster I mean someone who has provided $10,000+ in support annually or who has given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years.
Whatever you define as big donor is Walt specific. The reality is current RBI members are responsible for more than 35% of SIG donations. Hardly not enough to qualify to be in a search committee.
Are you saying current RBI Club Board members account for 35% of RBI Club donations? That may, in reality, be true, but only because the annual donations have dropped over 50% since the new RBI Club was reformed after Wayne left. I believe I was told that this year's total dues was under $100,000. Wayne's last year we had 10 donors who gave $10,000+. Only three of those remain. And the number of RBI Club members (the majority of whom give $1,000 annually) has declined significantly under the new regime.
And, BTW, the reason I used "major booster" in my response is because I was responding to another poster who suggested that Jk should be seeking input from RBI Club Board members, assuming that were the major supporters of the program.
The problem at Rice is that $10K is a major booster. I’ll quit arguing but the current RBI board is invested in all ways and not just in one sport and you could figure that out pretty easily looking at the owl club annual report instead of implying that nobody on the board would be worthy of selecting a new head coach.
(05-29-2021 12:51 AM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 09:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 09:23 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2021 03:46 PM)mebehutchi Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think your characterization of the RBI board level of financial commitment is accurate.
??? I'm pretty sure it is. The vast majority of the current RBI Board consists of ex-players who (with the exception of one or two) are not major supporters of the program. I believe only one of the three Board members who are not former players is a major booster....and by major booster I mean someone who has provided $10,000+ in support annually or who has given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years.
Whatever you define as big donor is Walt specific. The reality is current RBI members are responsible for more than 35% of SIG donations. Hardly not enough to qualify to be in a search committee.
Are you saying current RBI Club Board members account for 35% of RBI Club donations? That may, in reality, be true, but only because the annual donations have dropped over 50% since the new RBI Club was reformed after Wayne left. I believe I was told that this year's total dues was under $100,000. Wayne's last year we had 10 donors who gave $10,000+. Only three of those remain. And the number of RBI Club members (the majority of whom give $1,000 annually) has declined significantly under the new regime.
And, BTW, the reason I used "major booster" in my response is because I was responding to another poster who suggested that Jk should be seeking input from RBI Club Board members, assuming that were the major supporters of the program.
The problem at Rice is that $10K is a major booster. I’ll quit arguing but the current RBI board is invested in all ways and not just in one sport and you could figure that out pretty easily looking at the owl club annual report instead of implying that nobody on the board would be worthy of selecting a new head coach.
Again, I don't where you're getting your info, but it's just not true. BTW, the biggest baseball supporters also support all the other Rice sports, and only 2 or 3 of them are on the RBI Club board. And I never said $10,000/yr defined a major booster. Rather, I said that a major booster of Rice baseball alone donated at least $10,000/yr to the program and have given over $50,000 to the program over the past 10 years. I was being generous. In reality, the few that qualify by my definition have given considerably more than that. I also never implied that nobody on the RBI Club board was worthy of selecting a new head coach. I simply said that there are only a select few on the Board who are major boosters of the program. Stop twisting my words.
It is pretty easy to imagine a scenario where Berkman can lead HBU into becoming a baseball power akin to what Graham did at Rice. We will see, be his cache and personality can get him a good chunk of the way, the question will be how good he is as an actual coach.
(05-29-2021 11:18 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Berkman to HBU all but done per Kendall.
https://twitter.com/kendallrogers/status...19810?s=21
Quote:Mark Berman
@MarkBermanFox26
College baseball sources: Houston Baptist will hold a news conference tomorrow morning to announce former Astros star Lance Berkman is the Huskies new head baseball coach.
Quote:Mark Berman
@MarkBermanFox26
Lance Berkman tells FOX 26 Sports he’s thrilled to become the head baseball coach at Houston Baptist: “It’s something I’ve been working toward since I retired from my playing career. It’s been a dream of mine to be a Division 1 head coach.I think this is a wonderful opportunity.”
And more from Lance...
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...81/photo/1
As I said, and Lance obviously agrees, the HBU job is a perfect fit for him at this current point in time. And while I would have welcomed him had he been named to replace Bragga, I think there are a couple others who are better fits for the job Rice, who can better sell the values of Rice. Yes, he'd bring buzz to the program, but not without risks. The risks for HBU are considerably smaller.
(05-30-2021 09:54 AM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]It is pretty easy to imagine a scenario where Berkman can lead HBU into becoming a baseball power akin to what Graham did at Rice. We will see, be his cache and personality can get him a good chunk of the way, the question will be how good he is as an actual coach.
I think some reservations about hiring him as a coach were that he could turn into another Clyde Drexler. I think he now has motivation to ensure that does not occur.
(05-30-2021 07:25 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-29-2021 11:18 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Berkman to HBU all but done per Kendall.
https://twitter.com/kendallrogers/status...19810?s=21
Quote:Mark Berman
@MarkBermanFox26
College baseball sources: Houston Baptist will hold a news conference tomorrow morning to announce former Astros star Lance Berkman is the Huskies new head baseball coach.
Quote:Mark Berman
@MarkBermanFox26
Lance Berkman tells FOX 26 Sports he’s thrilled to become the head baseball coach at Houston Baptist: “It’s something I’ve been working toward since I retired from my playing career. It’s been a dream of mine to be a Division 1 head coach.I think this is a wonderful opportunity.”
And more from Lance...
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...81/photo/1
As I said, and Lance obviously agrees, the HBU job is a perfect fit for him at this current point in time. And while I would have welcomed him had he been named to replace Bragga, I think there are a couple others who are better fits for the job Rice, who can better sell the values of Rice. Yes, he'd bring buzz to the program, but not without risks. The risks for HBU are considerably smaller.
This move seems to make sense for everyone - and if Lance does well, this will provide him the resume builder he needs to come back to the program (or jump to bigger things).
Sounds like all is quiet on our hiring front?
I suspect a new coach will be named this week. It's certainly not the most important element of the job search but the Rice baseball camps are scheduled to begin on June 14th.
(05-31-2021 07:08 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect a new coach will be named this week. It's certainly not the most important element of the job search but the Rice baseball camps are scheduled to begin on June 14th.
Nice point. At this point who would coach the camps? These are important camps especially the HS camps for possible recruit evaluations especially after not being able to have them last summer.