It appears that James Madison had a decided effect on Texas. It appears that his nephew, James Madison Rose, may have died at the Alamo with Davy Crockett. Whether his family members were there or not, James Madison influenced Texas` road to independence.
http://www.sonsofdewittcolony.org//adp/h.../rose.html
Really amazed the connection between Virginia and Texas. Virginia really had great influence on the nation in the past.
Houston then moved with his family as a teenager to Tennessee, where he taught school near the town of Maryville, south of Knoxville. Tennessee has had a pretty big influence on Texas also. Davy Crockett, Houston, and of course President James K. Polk, who presided over the annexation of Texas, are all Tennesseans, even if Houston was born in Virginia. Houston was elected governor of Tennessee in 1827, but he resigned in 1829 after divorcing his first wife. Divorce was considered a big no-no back in the day.
But absolutely Virginia does have a big influence on Texas. Stephen F. Austin and Winfield Scott were also both born in Virginia.
A country of 8 million, run by a tyrant, battles a smaller undeveloped country of 30,000. Who wins? Texas in 1836. Mexico at the time had a population of about 8 million. Texas had a population of about 30,000, including about 2,500 Tejanos (Texans of Mexican descent).
(05-05-2021 04:10 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote: [ -> ]A country of 8 million, run by a tyrant, battles a smaller undeveloped country of 30,000. Who wins? Texas in 1836. Mexico at the time had a population of about 8 million. Texas had a population of about 30,000, including about 2,500 Tejanos (Texans of Mexican descent).
In fairness to Mexico- they were led by one of the all time worst generals in world history. Gen. Santa Anna made Ambrose Burnside look like a genius.
I would like to remind everyone that the Texans lost the battle of the Alamo.
(05-05-2021 08:05 PM)Nerfherder95 Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to remind everyone that the Texans lost the battle of the Alamo.
Tactical loss but strategic victory for the Texans, and a Pyhrric victory for Mexico..
That’s right you’re not from Texas
But Texas wants you anyway
She was guilty, and I was dead.
But what did that old judge said?
Awww, that’s the way girls are in Texas.
Case dismissed!!!
Because I love Old West history, and history of any and every kind, I was researching the Earp brothers' vendetta ride against the Cowboys recently.
Among those riding with the Earps was Texas Jack Vermillion. His name may have had "Texas" in it, but he was a Virginian, a Civil War vet (Confederate) and cavalry soldier who rode with Jeb Stuart. He was from Mendota, Virginia, near Abingdon, about 20 miles from my daughter's house. I plan to visit the area and his grave my next trip down there. He was a gunslinger, killer, on the run much of his life, but managed to live to the ripe old age of nearly 70 years old, far exceeding the life expectancy of the time.
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(05-05-2021 03:30 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote: [ -> ]Houston then moved with his family as a teenager to Tennessee, where he taught school near the town of Maryville, south of Knoxville. Tennessee has had a pretty big influence on Texas also. Davy Crockett, Houston, and of course President James K. Polk, who presided over the annexation of Texas, are all Tennesseans, even if Houston was born in Virginia. Houston was elected governor of Tennessee in 1827, but he resigned in 1829 after divorcing his first wife. Divorce was considered a big no-no back in the day.
But absolutely Virginia does have a big influence on Texas. Stephen F. Austin and Winfield Scott were also both born in Virginia.
While James K. Polk made his professional career in Tennessee and later national politics, he was not a Tennessean. He was born in Mecklenburg County, NC and attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Only after his time in Chapel Hill did he decide to move to Tennessee. Like Andrew Jackson and later Andrew Johnson, Polk grew up in North Carolina and later moved to Tennessee to find his fortune.
(05-05-2021 04:36 PM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2021 04:10 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote: [ -> ]A country of 8 million, run by a tyrant, battles a smaller undeveloped country of 30,000. Who wins? Texas in 1836. Mexico at the time had a population of about 8 million. Texas had a population of about 30,000, including about 2,500 Tejanos (Texans of Mexican descent).
In fairness to Mexico- they were led by one of the all time worst generals in world history. Gen. Santa Anna made Ambrose Burnside look like a genius.
Santa Anna called himself the Napoleon of the West. Of those 30,000 total population, roughly one-half were children. Of the remaining 15,000, about one-half were male- 7,500. Some of those were elderly. At the time of the Texas revolution, the estimate was there were about 6,000 men of fighting age that Sam Houston could use to draw his army from. A number of those were loyal to the dictator. Santa Anna slaughtered about 186 prisoners from the Alamo and about 450 at Goliad. Texas lost more than 10% of the male population (of fighting age). Sam Houston lost his entire army in less than a month. From the remnant, Sam Houston raised, equipped and fielded an army that defeated the tyrant.
(05-06-2021 08:50 AM)JMU_71 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2021 03:30 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote: [ -> ]Houston then moved with his family as a teenager to Tennessee, where he taught school near the town of Maryville, south of Knoxville. Tennessee has had a pretty big influence on Texas also. Davy Crockett, Houston, and of course President James K. Polk, who presided over the annexation of Texas, are all Tennesseans, even if Houston was born in Virginia. Houston was elected governor of Tennessee in 1827, but he resigned in 1829 after divorcing his first wife. Divorce was considered a big no-no back in the day.
But absolutely Virginia does have a big influence on Texas. Stephen F. Austin and Winfield Scott were also both born in Virginia.
While James K. Polk made his professional career in Tennessee and later national politics, he was not a Tennessean. He was born in Mecklenburg County, NC and attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Only after his time in Chapel Hill did he decide to move to Tennessee. Like Andrew Jackson and later Andrew Johnson, Polk grew up in North Carolina and later moved to Tennessee to find his fortune.
And the famous Jim Bowie was born in Kentucky. Most Texans of the time were born somewhere else, as were a lot of Tennesseans. Both places were the frontier. Davy Crockett, however,
was born in Tennessee, in a little cabin near the village of Limestone which is one of those blink-and-miss-it places. (Not on a moutaintop LOL) Later his daddy kept a tavern in Morristown where I used to live. (Taverns then were both eating, drinking, and lodging places.) It has been rebuilt on the site and is an attraction for schoolchildren and history buffs alike. My son's middle school history teacher has made quite a name for himself playing Davy.
(05-06-2021 05:34 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2021 08:50 AM)JMU_71 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2021 03:30 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote: [ -> ]Houston then moved with his family as a teenager to Tennessee, where he taught school near the town of Maryville, south of Knoxville. Tennessee has had a pretty big influence on Texas also. Davy Crockett, Houston, and of course President James K. Polk, who presided over the annexation of Texas, are all Tennesseans, even if Houston was born in Virginia. Houston was elected governor of Tennessee in 1827, but he resigned in 1829 after divorcing his first wife. Divorce was considered a big no-no back in the day.
But absolutely Virginia does have a big influence on Texas. Stephen F. Austin and Winfield Scott were also both born in Virginia.
While James K. Polk made his professional career in Tennessee and later national politics, he was not a Tennessean. He was born in Mecklenburg County, NC and attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Only after his time in Chapel Hill did he decide to move to Tennessee. Like Andrew Jackson and later Andrew Johnson, Polk grew up in North Carolina and later moved to Tennessee to find his fortune.
And the famous Jim Bowie was born in Kentucky. Most Texans of the time were born somewhere else, as were a lot of Tennesseans. Both places were the frontier. Davy Crockett, however, was born in Tennessee, in a little cabin near the village of Limestone which is one of those blink-and-miss-it places. (Not on a moutaintop LOL) Later his daddy kept a tavern in Morristown where I used to live. (Taverns then were both eating, drinking, and lodging places.) It has been rebuilt on the site and is an attraction for schoolchildren and history buffs alike. My son's middle school history teacher has made quite a name for himself playing Davy.
The famous phrase at the time was Gone to Texas, where every failed American went to start anew. Crocket's famous words after he lost his Tennessee seat were "you can go to hell, I'm going to Texas." Tennessee has a rich history. Very cool that you lived in Morristown.