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https://www.al.com/news/2021/04/alabama-...unces.html

This is a great relief for this native Alabamaian who does not want his state to lose any representation in Congress. Just as a pro golfer who survives the tournament "cut" by one or two strokes, this means getting to stay in play for 10 more years at our present strength. How close did we come to that "cut line" as we go forward into this decade? What must the state do to make the 2030 census a more comfortable time?

Rep.Terri Sewell can keep her seat. Taking the census is as important as voting.

Interesting that population actually showed 5% increase. I think a good bit of the increase was here in North Alabama so the new districts should be interesting

We'll have to wait and see how they get gerrymandered... I mean apportioned.

(04-26-2021 08:32 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]We'll have to wait and see how they get gerrymandered... I mean apportioned.

First of all, I’m very surprised (pleasantly so) by this news. I was resigned to the “-1” scenario for the last 3 or 4 years. Now that we know AL is keeping all 7 seats for another decade, there won’t be any substantial changes.

By the way, even if AL did get cut to 6, there would still be one heavily AA/pro-Democrat seat. It’s only if you cut down to 5 that would start to get very tricky.

(04-26-2021 08:32 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]We'll have to wait and see how they get gerrymandered... I mean apportioned.

First of all, I’m very surprised (pleasantly so) by this news. I was resigned to the “-1” scenario for the last 3 or 4 years. Now that we know AL is keeping all 7 seats for another decade, there won’t be any substantial changes.

By the way, even if AL did get cut to 6, there would still be one heavily AA/pro-Democrat seat. It’s only if you cut down to 5 that would start to get very tricky.

(04-26-2021 08:32 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]We'll have to wait and see how they get gerrymandered... I mean apportioned.

I have been moved from one district to another without moving

(04-27-2021 07:56 AM)Cardiff Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021 08:32 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]We'll have to wait and see how they get gerrymandered... I mean apportioned.

First of all, I’m very surprised (pleasantly so) by this news. I was resigned to the “-1” scenario for the last 3 or 4 years. Now that we know AL is keeping all 7 seats for another decade, there won’t be any substantial changes.

Most likely unchanged, but anymore they can do a computer spreadsheet to adjust the proportions and make some minor changes. This being the Alabama lege, that probably won't happen.

I figured we'd lose a seat as well, glad it held. Making the census political was idiotic. It's used to divide all sorts of federal money, getting the count right puts it where it should be.

(04-27-2021 10:11 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]Making the census political was idiotic.

Okay.

Quote:It's used to divide all sorts of federal money, getting the count right puts it where it should be.

That’s why it’s political.

Representative Sewell's seat was probably not threatened by either decision. I doubt any of the 5 remaining "RED" district Rep want an influx of "BLUE" voters so they would have been more likely to "cannabalize" one "RED" district if that had been the census outcome.

According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer.
Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

(04-27-2021 03:49 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Representative Sewell's seat was probably not threatened by either decision. I doubt any of the 5 remaining "RED" district Rep want an influx of "BLUE" voters so they would have been more likely to "cannabalize" one "RED" district if that had been the census outcome.

The “influx” of which you speak could be easily split up 6 different ways, leaving the remaining 6 “RED” districts still safely (if slightly less safe) GOP.

Quote:According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer. Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

In the last 100 years, Alabama has gone from 10 to 7 (seats in the US House). Massachusetts has gone from 14 to 9. New York from 45 to 26. Indiana from 13 to 9. Pennsylvania from 36 to 17. And so on and so on.

Unless you lock them up, people are going to move around in search of better weather and better opportunities. Nothing can be done to change that. It’s hard to believe these things have to be explained to an adult, but oh well.

(04-27-2021 03:49 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Representative Sewell's seat was probably not threatened by either decision. I doubt any of the 5 remaining "RED" district Rep want an influx of "BLUE" voters so they would have been more likely to "cannabalize" one "RED" district if that had been the census outcome.

According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer.
Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

The funny thing ross bridge is part of region 7 ,,,just look at the distribution on this section ,,it doesn't make any sense

It's not about an influx of blue voters into red districts. It's about diluting the blue district, weakening it by peeling off voters in chunks big enough to make a difference but small enough not to endanger the red districts they are moved to.

(04-27-2021 08:09 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about an influx of blue voters into red districts. It's about diluting the blue district, weakening it by peeling off voters in chunks big enough to make a difference but small enough not to endanger the red districts they are moved to.

Back in the 1960s,someone in the Alabama state legislature got the idea of dissolving Macon County because it had a Black majority and giving the pieces to the contiguous counties. His bill appeared destined to pass until someone noted that adding Macon County's population to the other counties would render them ALL Black majority counties. Are those "Red" folks ready to risk that kind of result (since "Blue" is not an easily discriminated skin color)?

(04-27-2021 05:49 PM)Cardiff Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2021 03:49 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Representative Sewell's seat was probably not threatened by either decision. I doubt any of the 5 remaining "RED" district Rep want an influx of "BLUE" voters so they would have been more likely to "cannabalize" one "RED" district if that had been the census outcome.

The “influx” of which you speak could be easily split up 6 different ways, leaving the remaining 6 “RED” districts still safely (if slightly less safe) GOP.

Quote:According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer. Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

In the last 100 years, Alabama has gone from 10 to 7 (seats in the US House). Massachusetts has gone from 14 to 9. New York from 45 to 26. Indiana from 13 to 9. Pennsylvania from 36 to 17. And so on and so on.

Unless you lock them up, people are going to move around in search of better weather and better opportunities. Nothing can be done to change that. It’s hard to believe these things have to be explained to an adult, but oh well.

As Brother Dave Gardner used to say "You don't see anyone retiring to the North, do you?" Weather is an important factor for those who have the funds to go to a better weather place. My daughter's in laws moved from north Indiana to south Florida when they retired.

Now that brings us to OPPORTUNITIES which apply for adult workers of all ages and their families. We see, for example, on this forum board how many of our fellow Blazer fans graduated from UAB and then have moved to other states. Now THAT should be Alabama's concern for the 2030 census. As I mentioned above, the golfer who just survives the "cut" can't be confident of winning the tournament. Alabama has 9 years to get ready for the 2030 "cut".

(04-27-2021 03:49 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer.
Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

I suspect that for many Alabamians (and Mississippians, Arkansans, etc...) the cure is worse than the disease. Qualities that attract young college educated people (strong and broad science-and-fact-based K-12 education system, strong and broad healthcare initiatives, religious and non-religious diversity and tolerance, acceptance of non-straight sexual orientation, etc...) are not attractive to many of the current residents. Things like tax rebates are a bandaid that can temporarily attract people for a short time.

i am learning a lot about my district today ..tks

(04-28-2021 09:27 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2021 03:49 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]According to the article cited, Alabama came very close to not making the "cut". Doing what we have always done may not be the right answer.
Perhaps even reversing the downward trend of the past 70 years? So what can the state do to make the 2030 census less stressful?

I suspect that for many Alabamians (and Mississippians, Arkansans, etc...) the cure is worse than the disease. Qualities that attract young college educated people (strong and broad science-and-fact-based K-12 education system, strong and broad healthcare initiatives, religious and non-religious diversity and tolerance, acceptance of non-straight sexual orientation, etc...) are not attractive to many of the current residents. Things like tax rebates are a bandaid that can temporarily attract people for a short time.

Tax ABATEMENTS (not rebates) can run for decades if the state makes that deal. I don't know if or when Mercedes or Honda has started paying corporate income taxes to Alabama yet. At one time, the state legislature attempted to give such companies the right to keep state income tax money from their employees as additional corporate income. I don't think that passed. There is a reason why the southern states have so many foreign auto companies but no American brand auto companies. President Trump blocked Ford from building an assembly plant in Mexico. Where was that plant built instead?

Sounds like you know the answer. Don't know why you're asking questions.