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Offense beats defense in the spring practice. See what the depth chart looks like in August with the portal wide open.
Stan Heath won the press conference. I feel like we needed him ten years ago, can he win the MAC?
As a younger alum the basketball game experience has improved since I was a student a lot of credit goes to Heather LYke but wEathErbEE deserves credit for keeping the weekend games in the day time. If we win they will come.
Have we started women's lacrosse yet? or no...

I had more thoughts but forgot them as I am wondering why its going to snow Tuesday night.
It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/
He could shoot and we would be good to see if foster would come to emu.
I said Dane would be gone from MSU and he is taking a lateral move (at best) to Indiana.
You can't develop height. Foster never grew.
I think Foster Loyer would be a decent MAC player, but is he even better than Bryce McBride? I honestly don’t know. McBride did some good things with no structured offense to work with. I like our guards, and think we should see what Heath can do with Lowder and Bryce.

Now if either Malik Hall or Julius Marble want to transfer, I’d pick up the phone immediately.
(04-20-2021 06:33 AM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]I think Foster Loyer would be a decent MAC player, but is he even better than Bryce McBride? I honestly don’t know. McBride did some good things with no structured offense to work with. I like our guards, and think we should see what Heath can do with Lowder and Bryce.

Now if either Malik Hall or Julius Marble want to transfer, I’d pick up the phone immediately.

Actually the one I wanted was Thomas Kithier, a forward with potential. We need help up front. He's going to Valpo.
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/
Anyone with eyes could see Loyer was not a Big 10 player. MSU is in trouble now with Fife leaving them. They lose that slow, 5'10" point guard pipeline.
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/

Loyer and Kithier were the best Michigan HS had to offer that season and Izzo got them both. Unfortunately as you have previously pointed out, Michigan HS basketball was then centered around Clarkston, and Dan Fife's team was good but had no players like the Flintstones, Magic Johnson or Chris Webber, the quality of the product today is clearly watered down as you stated.

Loyer, however, can shoot the lights out if given space as he demonstrated against the zone in our opener this year. He simply does not have the foot speed, body strength or height to excel in the Big Ten, Izzo's failure here was recruiting him in the first place, he clearly was not B1G developmental.

He reminds me of Dylan Frye at BG. He won't be the MAC POY, but a three ball guy like him could do some damage with actual offensive sets.
(04-20-2021 06:37 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/

Loyer and Kithier were the best Michigan HS had to offer that season and Izzo got them both. Unfortunately as you have previously pointed out, Michigan HS basketball was then centered around Clarkston, and Dan Fife's team was good but had no players like the Flintstones, Magic Johnson or Chris Webber, the quality of the product today is clearly watered down as you stated.

Loyer, however, can shoot the lights out if given space as he demonstrated against the zone in our opener this year. He simply does not have the foot speed, body strength or height to excel in the Big Ten, Izzo's failure here was recruiting him in the first place, he clearly was not B1G developmental.

He reminds me of Dylan Frye at BG. He won't be the MAC POY, but a three ball guy like him could do some damage with actual offensive sets.

Jerry, you are a wise observer of hoops. As a player moves up foot speed, leaping ability, etc. become more and more critical.

The next case we'll see is Luka Garza. Garza exceled even in the B1G but will probably struggle in the NBA.

And a take away from your post: The zone can make unshackle a player like Loyer. A tight man-to-man would shackle him. A zone, bombs away.

The toughest thing about scouting scouting h.s. is that some teams (e.g., Detroit Southwestern, class of '91 with Rose, Voshon Leonard, and Eisley) have college level talent. Other schools are almost Southwestern J.V. caliber.
(04-20-2021 06:56 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 06:37 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/

Loyer and Kithier were the best Michigan HS had to offer that season and Izzo got them both. Unfortunately as you have previously pointed out, Michigan HS basketball was then centered around Clarkston, and Dan Fife's team was good but had no players like the Flintstones, Magic Johnson or Chris Webber, the quality of the product today is clearly watered down as you stated.

Loyer, however, can shoot the lights out if given space as he demonstrated against the zone in our opener this year. He simply does not have the foot speed, body strength or height to excel in the Big Ten, Izzo's failure here was recruiting him in the first place, he clearly was not B1G developmental.

He reminds me of Dylan Frye at BG. He won't be the MAC POY, but a three ball guy like him could do some damage with actual offensive sets.

Jerry, you are a wise observer of hoops. As a player moves up foot speed, leaping ability, etc. become more and more critical.

The next case we'll see is Luka Garza. Garza exceled even in the B1G but will probably struggle in the NBA.

And a take away from your post: The zone can make unshackle a player like Loyer. A tight man-to-man would shackle him. A zone, bombs away.

The toughest thing about scouting scouting h.s. is that some teams (e.g., Detroit Southwestern, class of '91 with Rose, Voshon Leonard, and Eisley) have college level talent. Other schools are almost Southwestern J.V. caliber.

Garza came back for a reason, he had a FABULOUS senior NCAA season! I, however, don't see his game doing much at the NBA level. He shoots the three but getting open looks against NBA length and quickness is going to be problematic. He also ruled the paint offensively in the B1G, backing down almost anyone, the NBA will not be as compliant. I see him as a "Kent Benson" from the undefeated IU national championship team, a tremendous college center who while being the overall number one pick in the NBA draft, just was not athletic enough to compete at the next level. Luka made a great decision to stay, that NCAA POY award will be with him forever.
Remember when you proclaimed that Joey Hauser would be in the NBA next year. after he had 15 against us...............

(04-20-2021 07:20 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/
Anyone with eyes could see Loyer was not a Big 10 player. MSU is in trouble now with Fife leaving them. They lose that slow, 5'10" point guard pipeline.
(04-20-2021 07:34 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 06:56 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 06:37 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/

Loyer and Kithier were the best Michigan HS had to offer that season and Izzo got them both. Unfortunately as you have previously pointed out, Michigan HS basketball was then centered around Clarkston, and Dan Fife's team was good but had no players like the Flintstones, Magic Johnson or Chris Webber, the quality of the product today is clearly watered down as you stated.

Loyer, however, can shoot the lights out if given space as he demonstrated against the zone in our opener this year. He simply does not have the foot speed, body strength or height to excel in the Big Ten, Izzo's failure here was recruiting him in the first place, he clearly was not B1G developmental.

He reminds me of Dylan Frye at BG. He won't be the MAC POY, but a three ball guy like him could do some damage with actual offensive sets.

Jerry, you are a wise observer of hoops. As a player moves up foot speed, leaping ability, etc. become more and more critical.

The next case we'll see is Luka Garza. Garza exceled even in the B1G but will probably struggle in the NBA.

And a take away from your post: The zone can make unshackle a player like Loyer. A tight man-to-man would shackle him. A zone, bombs away.

The toughest thing about scouting scouting h.s. is that some teams (e.g., Detroit Southwestern, class of '91 with Rose, Voshon Leonard, and Eisley) have college level talent. Other schools are almost Southwestern J.V. caliber.

Garza came back for a reason, he had a FABULOUS senior NCAA season! I, however, don't see his game doing much at the NBA level. He shoots the three but getting open looks against NBA length and quickness is going to be problematic. He also ruled the paint offensively in the B1G, backing down almost anyone, the NBA will not be as compliant. I see him as a "Kent Benson" from the undefeated IU national championship team, a tremendous college center who while being the overall number one pick in the NBA draft, just was not athletic enough to compete at the next level. Luka made a great decision to stay, that NCAA POY award will be with him forever.

Garza = Frank Kanminsky in the NBA.
(04-22-2021 11:51 AM)KPJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 07:34 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 06:56 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 06:37 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/

Loyer and Kithier were the best Michigan HS had to offer that season and Izzo got them both. Unfortunately as you have previously pointed out, Michigan HS basketball was then centered around Clarkston, and Dan Fife's team was good but had no players like the Flintstones, Magic Johnson or Chris Webber, the quality of the product today is clearly watered down as you stated.

Loyer, however, can shoot the lights out if given space as he demonstrated against the zone in our opener this year. He simply does not have the foot speed, body strength or height to excel in the Big Ten, Izzo's failure here was recruiting him in the first place, he clearly was not B1G developmental.

He reminds me of Dylan Frye at BG. He won't be the MAC POY, but a three ball guy like him could do some damage with actual offensive sets.

Jerry, you are a wise observer of hoops. As a player moves up foot speed, leaping ability, etc. become more and more critical.

The next case we'll see is Luka Garza. Garza exceled even in the B1G but will probably struggle in the NBA.

And a take away from your post: The zone can make unshackle a player like Loyer. A tight man-to-man would shackle him. A zone, bombs away.

The toughest thing about scouting scouting h.s. is that some teams (e.g., Detroit Southwestern, class of '91 with Rose, Voshon Leonard, and Eisley) have college level talent. Other schools are almost Southwestern J.V. caliber.

Garza came back for a reason, he had a FABULOUS senior NCAA season! I, however, don't see his game doing much at the NBA level. He shoots the three but getting open looks against NBA length and quickness is going to be problematic. He also ruled the paint offensively in the B1G, backing down almost anyone, the NBA will not be as compliant. I see him as a "Kent Benson" from the undefeated IU national championship team, a tremendous college center who while being the overall number one pick in the NBA draft, just was not athletic enough to compete at the next level. Luka made a great decision to stay, that NCAA POY award will be with him forever.

Garza = Frank Kanminsky in the NBA.

I could see that Keith. Also while I downplay Garza's NBA potential, a Kaminsky-like pro career would not be all that bad. A bench player averaging 10 ppg and making $5M a year ain't bad.
(04-22-2021 08:26 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when you proclaimed that Joey Hauser would be in the NBA next year. after he had 15 against us...............

(04-20-2021 07:20 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2021 05:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]It's Tuesday and I'm having Monday Musings hangovers...

A former Mr. Basketball, Foster Loyer, couldn't shoot or defend in the B1G and is transferring.

Either than means Tom Izzo can't develop players OR Michigan h.s. hoops is worse than we thought and feared. Ready, aim, fire...

Just a thought to chew on, between bites on that yummy Heath bar.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colle...296425002/
Anyone with eyes could see Loyer was not a Big 10 player. MSU is in trouble now with Fife leaving them. They lose that slow, 5'10" point guard pipeline.
And then he badly injured his foot and will raise his NBA stock again by returning this coming season. Hauser was a star at Marquette before coming to MSU. I love his game, I love his demeanor. I wish Eastern could recruit that type of player. But getting back to Loyer, yeah he sucks.
Discussion of transfers around various MAC, HL and B1G schools.

Note, Mr. Kevin Macadoooooooo is on the move again. From Bradley to UDM.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...378281002/
(04-26-2021 01:45 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]Discussion of transfers around various MAC, HL and B1G schools.

Note, Mr. Kevin Macadoooooooo is on the move again. From Bradley to UDM.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...378281002/
So effing soft. How many regular students go from EMU to Bradley to U of D? Rhetorical question. Honor your GD commitment. Fight for PT! This is not what college sports is meant to be.
Monday musing: We need an entirely new baseball staff. What a disgrace.
(04-26-2021 03:06 PM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]Monday musing: We need an entirely new baseball staff. What a disgrace.
What happened?
6-14 in conference.
(04-26-2021 09:17 PM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]6-14 in conference.
I've watched them play. It seems that they need more talent, especially hitters. The offense lacks any punch. They seem to be okay with pitching. I wouldn't necessarily stay they have a coaching issue.

The same comments can be applied to the Tigers.
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