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I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.
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(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

lmao....how was he wrong relative to today....

the great society was a savior....how about those war on drugs how about corpshite 'murica and the boob tube making 1984 more relevant...

jfc....you guys don't understand real battle between have vs. have not

@enjoyPettyWithBlindersOn

addendum: I forgot.....the msm has always owned your arse....

ref:WRH
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

How was he wrong?
(04-18-2021 11:54 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

How was he wrong?

Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.
(04-19-2021 05:31 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.

The irony of that statement is thick.... If you are a "local" to wherever you live - meaning if you grew up and still live in the same (or neighboring) town, you probably went to school with many of the law enforcement officials in your area.

Do you fondly remember those people from high School as "leaders" or "upstanding students".

I bet you don't - many (not all) of the officers in my area were a-holes in school, and often the tough guys who used to pick on people, straddled firmly on the dirt-bag fence. Is it a surprise that those same people usually are the "bad cops"? Not all of them have that M.O. but I bet that description fits a high percentage of them.
(04-19-2021 05:31 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 11:54 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

How was he wrong?

Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.

He was tasked with ferreting out communism within the highest offices in the land. He wasn't wrong in his findings, a fact made even more critical given the current political situation we face. Communism is alive and well in the good old US of A.
In CNN's defense, it's not like they've ever cared about insulting anyone's intelligence before this.
(04-19-2021 05:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2021 05:31 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.

The irony of that statement is thick.... If you are a "local" to wherever you live - meaning if you grew up and still live in the same (or neighboring) town, you probably went to school with many of the law enforcement officials in your area.

Do you fondly remember those people from high School as "leaders" or "upstanding students".

I bet you don't - many (not all) of the officers in my area were a-holes in school, and often the tough guys who used to pick on people, straddled firmly on the dirt-bag fence. Is it a surprise that those same people usually are the "bad cops"? Not all of them have that M.O. but I bet that description fits a high percentage of them.

I did not grow up in Norfolk. I grew up in a distant N.Y.C. suburb, literally the end of the trainline.

What you've described of the kids in my hometown that became cops is generally accurate - - insofar as who they were as kids. But it is not accurate, at least so far as I know, as to who they became as adults. The ones I knew, and got into scuffles with as a kid, have since matured as apparently upstanding adults. I like to think that they have mostly all been good, clean cops - - but admittedly do not know that for certain.
(04-19-2021 05:54 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2021 05:31 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 11:54 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

How was he wrong?

Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.

He was tasked with ferreting out communism within the highest offices in the land. He wasn't wrong in his findings, a fact made even more critical given the current political situation we face. Communism is alive and well in the good old US of A.

I agree. But you asked how he was wrong.

He was wrong, badly wrong, in the way that he went about doing his assigned task. And ultimately undermined his own mission as a result.

Joe McCarthy's best attribute is as an historical example of how power can be misused, even in a good-intentioned undertaking.
(04-19-2021 06:42 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2021 05:54 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2021 05:31 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 11:54 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2021 10:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]I think he will. lol---he could hardly be remember in a worse light than he is currently portrayed by the media. If you'll remember---they acted like Reagan was worst man since Hitler in the 80's-----but most Americans remember him fondly because he was right far more often than wrong.

I mean---Senator McCarthy was riding high in 1950's.....for a while. Now he's perceived as a evil and dangerous man. He's perceived that way because he was wrong. Being eventually proven right is what history remembers.

How was he wrong?

Into the breach ....

He was wrong in the tactics that he employed, made worse that he was doing so from a position of enormous power:

=> As important as it is to teach values and respect to young children, if you do so via abusive methods you are a bad parent.

=> Our police need and deserve our support, for doing a difficult and necessary job. But that doesn’t excuse those small percentage of cops who are little more than thugs in uniform.

=> President Trump was right on most (not all) of his policy undertakings. Yet he managed to undermine himself, and worse this nation, via his thin-skinned, self-pitying, moronic communication skills.

No one is all-right or all-wrong (except perhaps for public-sector unions). Humans are necessarily a mixed bag. But Sen. McCarthy is justly remembered as more bad than good because of the abuse of his position of power, which hurt a lot of innocent people for the non-crime of holding different political beliefs.

He was tasked with ferreting out communism within the highest offices in the land. He wasn't wrong in his findings, a fact made even more critical given the current political situation we face. Communism is alive and well in the good old US of A.

I agree. But you asked how he was wrong.

He was wrong, badly wrong, in the way that he went about doing his assigned task. And ultimately undermined his own mission as a result.

Joe McCarthy's best attribute is as an historical example of how power can be misused, even in a good-intentioned undertaking.

Possibly but he was a great patriot who died not understanding why he was so badly vilified for doing his job, one he - and I - considered to be extremely important. There WAS a massive penetration of the government, it WAS covered up and he threatened that cover-up. That's why he was isolated, demonized and destroyed. That's the technique. It's still in use today, we've seen it play out every single day for the last 4 years.
Oh, Trump was right about a lot of things, history will bear that out.
(04-19-2021 06:39 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2021 05:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]The irony of that statement is thick.... If you are a "local" to wherever you live - meaning if you grew up and still live in the same (or neighboring) town, you probably went to school with many of the law enforcement officials in your area.

Do you fondly remember those people from high School as "leaders" or "upstanding students".

I bet you don't - many (not all) of the officers in my area were a-holes in school, and often the tough guys who used to pick on people, straddled firmly on the dirt-bag fence. Is it a surprise that those same people usually are the "bad cops"? Not all of them have that M.O. but I bet that description fits a high percentage of them.

I did not grow up in Norfolk. I grew up in a distant N.Y.C. suburb, literally the end of the trainline.

What you've described of the kids in my hometown that became cops is generally accurate - - insofar as who they were as kids. But it is not accurate, at least so far as I know, as to who they became as adults. The ones I knew, and got into scuffles with as a kid, have since matured as apparently upstanding adults. I like to think that they have mostly all been good, clean cops - - but admittedly do not know that for certain.

I am definitely saying they all were.... but the ones who are usually exposed as bad cops, were usually bad kids too. I know of many who were bullies in HS and are now cops. Most are good guys now, but the couple who are a-holes now were a-holes back then too.

You never know who will mature and who will not when you are 20 years old going through the academy. But most people who become police officers come from a certain "type" of personality when they were teens.
There were things Reagan did right, of course, but the whole "war on drugs" while the government was literally helping cartels transport and sell drugs will always taint what he did.
One reason the commies hate Trump is that he's been right more times than wrong and that irks them. Even some of the things that they used to complain about (immigration tactics by Trump) they are using right now. Those cans of soup can be a deadly trajectory and anyone throwing them at police should be a target for one of the cops weapons. Self defense is the key.

The people on our MSM shows should be given a dose of their own. They are instigators and need to be shown how wrong they are. A good ass kicking would suffice. If that hag Waters can incite riots why can't we incite defensive tactics. Tit for tat.
(04-19-2021 10:54 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, Trump was right about a lot of things, history will bear that out.

VA just used their emergency response system to send out a message that trump was correct about vaccine availability, despite the fake news media who said he was lying.

(04-18-2021 10:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]I certainly hope history treats President Trump more kindly than the press did during is tenure. He sure was right about a lot of things that at the time the left called crazy.

They won't. Look who controls academia. The left is already trying to rewrite history and take credit for many of his accomplishments. The "vaccines?" The economy? Withdrawing troops from the Middle East? Yeah, they're giving Pedo Joe all the credit.
Quote:(CNN)President Donald Trump claimed Friday there will be enough coronavirus vaccines for every American by April -- a claim that doesn't match any timeline given by the federal government's health agencies, private researchers or even the companies making the vaccines.

So, this was not the media saying he was not correct, but his own government and the researchers and vaccine companies themselves.

Quote:"We'll have manufactured at least 100 million vaccine doses before the end of the year, and likely much more than that," he said. "Millions of doses will be available every month, and we expect to have enough vaccines for every American by April."
Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

April 1st was 19 days ago. We did not have enough doses for every American on April 1st.

Further, what Virginia said is as follows:

Quote:RICHMOND, Va. (WRIC) — All Virginians who want to be vaccinated will have the chance to schedule appointments starting Sunday, April 18.

Earlier this month, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam announced that all state residents over the age of 16 would be eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine.

Northam is encouraging residents to register for the COVID-19 vaccine by calling the statewide call center at 877-VAX-IN-VA or by using the new Vaccinate Virginia website to find vaccine providers starting Sunday.

Demand for the vaccine is expected to outpace supply so, Virginians may have to wait for an appointment. At this time, only the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for people aged 16 and 17. The Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are approved for ages 18 and up.
All Virginians are eligible for COVID-19 vaccines starting April 18

Further, we still do not have enough vaccinations for all americans.

Quote:During a tour of the National Institute of Health's Viral Pathogenesis Laboratory, where the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine was created, Biden said his administration had secured the delivery of 600 million doses of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines over the next five months, the Associated Press reported.

"We're now on track to have enough supply for 300 million Americans by the end of July," he announced.
U.S. Will Have Enough Vaccine for All Americans by Summer: Biden

Dishonest troll gonna dishonest troll.
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