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(09-17-2021 08:39 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2021 02:36 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]I guess NBA players like Steph Curry should bulk-up as well.

Put the hash pipe down. A comparison betwwen Curry and Luka isn't apppropriate and you know it. My new name for you is Miggy the Hypester.

He’s pretty obviously stating that bulk doesn’t really matter if you’re good at basketball (especially for guards), and not comparing Luka’s ability to Steph Curry. Come on.

Anyway, Luka has been playing against grown men already. If anyone is ready for the physicality of the MAC, it’s probably him.
(09-17-2021 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 08:39 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2021 02:36 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]I guess NBA players like Steph Curry should bulk-up as well.

Put the hash pipe down. A comparison betwwen Curry and Luka isn't apppropriate and you know it. My new name for you is Miggy the Hypester.

He’s pretty obviously stating that bulk doesn’t really matter if you’re good at basketball (especially for guards), and not comparing Luka’s ability to Steph Curry. Come on.

Anyway, Luka has been playing against grown men already. If anyone is ready for the physicality of the MAC, it’s probably him.

Thanks EagleSam for pointing that out. That’s exactly the point I was making. Knew it would be said I’m comparing Luka to Curry. I was just saying a player doesn’t need a big frame to be a terrific guard. I need to be more careful expressing sarcasm.
(09-17-2021 08:45 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 07:50 AM)Luckeyone Wrote: [ -> ]Miggy,

You have seemingly replaced Steve as the EMU basketball fan wearing rose pedaled glasses :-)

Question for you: Is your projection of the success the team is going to have this year based on watching the players scrimmage against each other or entirely from highlight YouTube videos?

I believe Luka’s stock has fallen a bit based on your latest analysis on him. His highlights look very promising but he will definitely need to add some muscle to play in the MAC.

I am going to try to watch a basketball scrimmage when practice can start back up.

Meanwhile, although we have a couple veteran transfers and returning players, looks like Heath recruited a great foundation of players to build his program on that should be very competitive in years 2-4. Freshman just typically do not contribute that much their first year due to the adjustment required from high school to D1 basketball. I remember watching Brian Tolbert as a freshman and telling myself this kid has huge potential but he was a minor role player his freshman year on an average team.

When I look at our returning players: Kongo, Binelli, McBride, Spottsville, and Ballard, I only see average MAC players. However, admittedly so my analyses of these players are in Murphy’s street ball system. I do believe that these players will definitely perform much better in a structured system. Binelli could be one of the top shooters in the MAC if a coach set up plays to run him off screens. In Murphy’s system, Binelli had to create his own shots which meant a long 3 ball off the dribble with a defender on him. Heck even pros would struggle in Murphy’s offensive system

Ballard reminds me of Draymond Green - a guy who scraps every possession and every team needs this type of player.

McBride - he’ll be a nice guard where he should average 7-10 ppg.

Okongo- jury’s out on him due to injury and playing time but from I have seen his foot speed is not there to be anything more than a role player.

It’s too bad that our potential All-MAC forward transferred to Butler.

Since freshman are pretty much role players, and we don’t have all returning all MAC players on the roster , I believe this team may achieve 1-2 games over 0.500 in the conference.

I have a lot of faith in Coach Heath because of his previous coaching success. Next season EMU will be a force in the MAC. However this season will be used to see what pieces are needed to win the MAC.

I do believe that EMU is a sleeping giant to attract players because 1) We have a very successful coach 2) a coach who runs an exciting system, 3) We are adjacent to an amazing city to our west with many things to do, 4) EMU has one of the top MAC facilities, and 5) our campus is looking pretty damper these days.

It will take awhile for the fans to return but they will because Heath will reinstate an exciting brand of basketball with exciting players. We’re a SLEEPING GIANT that will begin to awake !!!!

Hey a step into reality out of fanasty island. Guess what lots of new talented coaches in the MAC West. I believe the 2022 and 2023 recruiting classes will be critical for Heath. Hence I am curious to see if we sign anyone in the early signing period this year. Yes I agree we have some potential on the current squad but it will take time.

Luckyone:

Thanks for the informative information you provided on EMU bb and it’s returning players.

Although a EMU fan, I don’t think I look at EMU bb players through rose colored glasses. What I’ve tried to point out, like you have, is that Heath has put together a good, improved, and competitive roster.

I’m guardedly optimistic about the upcoming season. Have not made any projections here about what EMU’s win-loss record will be.

Do believe that at the top of the MAC are 3 or 4 teams that are closely bunched together. It remains be seen whether EMU can be competitive with those teams. Will need to see which players are consistently good shooters. Hope EMU has three or four.

Some of those teams will play similar to EMU by pressuring the ball to force steals, and will also playup-tempo on offense.

I agree with you that the returning players should not be judged on past season’s performance. Rather, I look for significant improvement by the players on both sides of the ball as they’re now playing in a far better system under Coach Heath. I look for players shooting percentages to increase, and thus so will EMU’s team shooting percentages.

It’s hard to determine how good EMU’s defense will be until we see EMU’s interior defense play. Before he started recruiting, Heath said EMU will have one of the MCC’s best defenses. Glad EMU has some tall bigs upfront.

I do know the high skill-set of both M.Scott and N.Farrakhan. I have worked with both. Consider them family.

I really like N. Scott, but we’ll all know more when we see them play.

I also like EMU’s returnee McBride’s offense, but his defense needs a lot to be desired. Find Spottsville perplexing as his stats are inconsistent the last two years, and therefore really want to see him play.

My knowledge of returning players are from a variety of sources. One being stats. Videos are helpful in seeing a player’s handles, shooting form, jump shot, quickness, ability to getting to and finish at the rim, tendency to foul, and his all important bb IQ. I also study both shooting and non-shooting stats, and how a team plays with a particular player. . Although I have not attended any scrimmages, I have received feedback from knowledgeable bb observers who have.

Been told that Luka S is a solid player which is supported by his videos and stats. His skill level is high level as he can create space, shoot off his dribble, and get by his defender and either or dish-off inside or finish at the rim. Is a terrific passer. But understand he needs more consistency in his shooting.

Will take him time to adjust to American game that I’m told is different from European bb. We’ll need to see if he improves enough in the next month and a half practicing with the team to earn some playing time when EMU’s bb season commenses.
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.
(09-17-2021 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 08:39 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2021 02:36 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]I guess NBA players like Steph Curry should bulk-up as well.

Put the hash pipe down. A comparison betwwen Curry and Luka isn't apppropriate and you know it. My new name for you is Miggy the Hypester.

He’s pretty obviously stating that bulk doesn’t really matter if you’re good at basketball (especially for guards), and not comparing Luka’s ability to Steph Curry. Come on.

Anyway, Luka has been playing against grown men already. If anyone is ready for the physicality of the MAC, it’s probably him.

Why even mention Curry at all ? But hey there must be reason that current staff has 4 offers to PG in thec2022 class.
(09-17-2021 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 08:45 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 07:50 AM)Luckeyone Wrote: [ -> ]Miggy,

You have seemingly replaced Steve as the EMU basketball fan wearing rose pedaled glasses :-)

Question for you: Is your projection of the success the team is going to have this year based on watching the players scrimmage against each other or entirely from highlight YouTube videos?

I believe Luka’s stock has fallen a bit based on your latest analysis on him. His highlights look very promising but he will definitely need to add some muscle to play in the MAC.

I am going to try to watch a basketball scrimmage when practice can start back up.

Meanwhile, although we have a couple veteran transfers and returning players, looks like Heath recruited a great foundation of players to build his program on that should be very competitive in years 2-4. Freshman just typically do not contribute that much their first year due to the adjustment required from high school to D1 basketball. I remember watching Brian Tolbert as a freshman and telling myself this kid has huge potential but he was a minor role player his freshman year on an average team.

When I look at our returning players: Kongo, Binelli, McBride, Spottsville, and Ballard, I only see average MAC players. However, admittedly so my analyses of these players are in Murphy’s street ball system. I do believe that these players will definitely perform much better in a structured system. Binelli could be one of the top shooters in the MAC if a coach set up plays to run him off screens. In Murphy’s system, Binelli had to create his own shots which meant a long 3 ball off the dribble with a defender on him. Heck even pros would struggle in Murphy’s offensive system

Ballard reminds me of Draymond Green - a guy who scraps every possession and every team needs this type of player.

McBride - he’ll be a nice guard where he should average 7-10 ppg.

Okongo- jury’s out on him due to injury and playing time but from I have seen his foot speed is not there to be anything more than a role player.

It’s too bad that our potential All-MAC forward transferred to Butler.

Since freshman are pretty much role players, and we don’t have all returning all MAC players on the roster , I believe this team may achieve 1-2 games over 0.500 in the conference.

I have a lot of faith in Coach Heath because of his previous coaching success. Next season EMU will be a force in the MAC. However this season will be used to see what pieces are needed to win the MAC.

I do believe that EMU is a sleeping giant to attract players because 1) We have a very successful coach 2) a coach who runs an exciting system, 3) We are adjacent to an amazing city to our west with many things to do, 4) EMU has one of the top MAC facilities, and 5) our campus is looking pretty damper these days.

It will take awhile for the fans to return but they will because Heath will reinstate an exciting brand of basketball with exciting players. We’re a SLEEPING GIANT that will begin to awake !!!!

Hey a step into reality out of fanasty island. Guess what lots of new talented coaches in the MAC West. I believe the 2022 and 2023 recruiting classes will be critical for Heath. Hence I am curious to see if we sign anyone in the early signing period this year. Yes I agree we have some potential on the current squad but it will take time.

Luckyone:

Thanks for the informative information you provided on EMU bb and it’s returning players.

Although a EMU fan, I don’t think I look at EMU bb players through rose colored glasses. What I’ve tried to point out, like you have, is that Heath has put together a good, improved, and competitive roster.

I’m guardedly optimistic about the upcoming season. have not made any projections here about what EMU’s win-loss record will be,.

Do believe that at the top of the MAC are 3 or 4 teams that are closely bunched together. It remains be seen whether EMU can be competitive with those teams. My initial assessment is they will be. Some of those teams will play similar to EMU by pressuring the ball to force steals, and playing up-tempo on offense.

I agree with you that the returning players should not be judged on past season’s performance. Rather, I look for significant improvement by the players on both sides of the ball as they’re now playing in a far better system under Coach Heath. I look for players shooting percentages to increase, and thus so will EMU’s team shooting percentages.

It’s hard to determine how good EMU’s defense will be until we see EMU’s interior defended play. But I accept Heath’s saying that EMU will have one the MCC’s best defenses. I do have a lot of confidence that EMU’s offense should be very good because he has an offenive system that meshes with the players.

I do know the very high skill-level of both M.Scott and N.Farrakhan. I have worked with both. Consider them family.

I really like the other new players, and we’ll all know more when we see them play.

My knowledge of returning players are from a variety of sources. Videos are helpful in seeing a players handles, shooting form, jump shot, quickness, ability to getting to and and finishing at the rim, tendency to foul, and his all important bb IQ. I also love studying both shooting, non-shooting stats, and how plays with a particular player on the court. Although I have not attended any scrimmages, I have received feedback from knowledgeable bb observers who have.

Been told that Luka S is a solid player which is supported by his videos and stats. His skill level is high level as he can create space and shoot off his dribble, get by his defender with ease, or dish inside or finish at the rim.

Might or might not take him time to adjust to American game that I’m told is different from European bb. The next month and a half practicing should provide some answers.

Lucky go with Blue Ribbon.
(09-23-2021 06:08 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 08:39 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2021 02:36 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]I guess NBA players like Steph Curry should bulk-up as well.

Put the hash pipe down. A comparison betwwen Curry and Luka isn't apppropriate and you know it. My new name for you is Miggy the Hypester.

He’s pretty obviously stating that bulk doesn’t really matter if you’re good at basketball (especially for guards), and not comparing Luka’s ability to Steph Curry. Come on.

Anyway, Luka has been playing against grown men already. If anyone is ready for the physicality of the MAC, it’s probably him.

Why even mention Curry at all ? But hey there must be reason that current staff has 4 offers to PG in thec2022 class.

Because you completely missed his point and he was giving an example. Not sure what recruiting has to do with anything, since we should be offering every position, with how everyone transfers nowadays. But hey, you knew that.
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!
BTW, I like the switch to divionless basketball. I still see value in it in football as the best way to create a mini-tournament in the form of a championship game between the division winners. But never made sense nor was needed in basketball.

As for the basketball tournament format that is running through at least the 2023/24 season… I like only fielding the top 8 teams as it gives more relevance to the regular season… Conversely, it seems like they eliminated any benefits for the higher seeds other than playing a lower team first game- kind of detracts from the relevance of the regular season. I think they should go full on to the way it was prior to 2000. The top four seeds play first round at home, with just the semifinal and final played at the neutral sight. In addition to maintaing relevance of the regular season, it generates more excitement to “make it to Cleveland”. I would imagine this is financially more advantageous to the venue and conference as well.
(09-23-2021 09:54 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, I like the switch to divionless basketball. I still see value in it in football as the best way to create a mini-tournament in the form of a championship game between the division winners. But never made sense nor was needed in basketball.

As for the basketball tournament format that is running through at least the 2023/24 season… I like only fielding the top 8 teams as it gives more relevance to the regular season… Conversely, it seems like they eliminated any benefits for the higher seeds other than playing a lower team first game- kind of detracts from the relevance of the regular season. I think they should go full on to the way it was prior to 2000. The top four seeds play first round at home, with just the semifinal and final played at the neutral sight. In addition to maintaing relevance of the regular season, it generates more excitement to “make it to Cleveland”. I would imagine this is financially more advantageous to the venue and conference as well.

MAC has a contract with the arena, etc. at CLEveland and can't unilaterally change things.

MAC can eliminate the campus rounds, as they did, but keep the quarters, semis and finals in CLE.
(09-23-2021 09:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!

Ouch! EMU79 picking EMU last in the MAC.

Looking forward to reading Three Man Weave analysis of MAC teams, players, and rankings of MAC teams. Hopefully, will be out in next few weeks.
(09-23-2021 09:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!

Right. They are highly respected.
(09-23-2021 08:30 PM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:08 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2021 08:39 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2021 02:36 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]I guess NBA players like Steph Curry should bulk-up as well.

Put the hash pipe down. A comparison betwwen Curry and Luka isn't apppropriate and you know it. My new name for you is Miggy the Hypester.

He’s pretty obviously stating that bulk doesn’t really matter if you’re good at basketball (especially for guards), and not comparing Luka’s ability to Steph Curry. Come on.

Anyway, Luka has been playing against grown men already. If anyone is ready for the physicality of the MAC, it’s probably him.

Why even mention Curry at all ? But hey there must be reason that current staff has 4 offers to PG in thec2022 class.

Because you completely missed his point and he was giving an example. Not sure what recruiting has to do with anything, since we should be offering every position, with how everyone transfers nowadays. But hey, you knew that.

What point was he making? But if Luka was the answer at point guard moving forward and is only a,frosh why would be looking at recruiting another? Depth I guess.
(09-23-2021 09:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!

You do realize that they actually talk to the coaches?
(09-25-2021 08:49 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 09:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!

Right. They are highly respected.

RE: Blue Ribbon. Their DIGITAL version (same as the printed but digital - non sharable, etc.) is out or due out 'end of September' which is NOW.

" * The PDF version of the Blue Ribbon Yearbook is for viewing ONLY. You will not be able to copy, paste, or print it." That is a quote from their email.

Once again, I have been following them for many years. Probably back to the 90s.

The write ups are INFORMATIVE.

They have great writers who do this for a living. One writer per conference. They interview the coaches of each school. Something about getting it from the horse's mouth.

It is $16.95.

https://blueribbonyearbook.com/products/...l-download
(09-25-2021 09:00 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-25-2021 08:49 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 09:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 06:07 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-23-2021 12:18 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/144...16/photo/1

Looks about right. Although I would switch NIU and Eastern around.

No, it looks like the average results of the last 5 years rather than a prediction. I guarantee you Blue Ribbon did not put too many resources behind their analysis. Go EMU!!!

Right. They are highly respected.

RE: Blue Ribbon. Their DIGITAL version (same as the printed but digital - non sharable, etc.) is out or due out 'end of September' which is NOW.

" * The PDF version of the Blue Ribbon Yearbook is for viewing ONLY. You will not be able to copy, paste, or print it." That is a quote from their email.

Once again, I have been following them for many years. Probably back to the 90s.

The write ups are INFORMATIVE.

They have great writers who do this for a living. One writer per conference. They interview the coaches of each school. Something about getting it from the horse's mouth.

It is $16.95.

https://blueribbonyearbook.com/products/...l-download

I ordered my first copy this year and am looking forward to it. The MAC will be an interesting conference this year especially the MAC West.
(09-23-2021 09:54 PM)RamyEMU Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, I like the switch to divionless basketball. I still see value in it in football as the best way to create a mini-tournament in the form of a championship game between the division winners. But never made sense nor was needed in basketball.

As for the basketball tournament format that is running through at least the 2023/24 season… I like only fielding the top 8 teams as it gives more relevance to the regular season… Conversely, it seems like they eliminated any benefits for the higher seeds other than playing a lower team first game- kind of detracts from the relevance of the regular season. I think they should go full on to the way it was prior to 2000. The top four seeds play first round at home, with just the semifinal and final played at the neutral sight. In addition to maintaing relevance of the regular season, it generates more excitement to “make it to Cleveland”. I would imagine this is financially more advantageous to the venue and conference as well.

Ramy your are spot on, the two division format never made sense to anyone other than MAC head coaches, as the MAC was the ONLY conference in D1 to maintain the divisional format. Murphy, Whitford, Davis, Montgomery, Hawkins and Kowalcyk all hung Division Champ banners when they were not among the best in the MAC but it did allow them to keep their jobs while Dambrodt and Oats steamrolled the "job cruisers' and went on to bigger and better things.
I think we will be playing man to man almost 100%. One problem is that two of the returning players were not and may not be 100% until October. Luka was gone all summer. Hard to get to click and know each other with limited exposure. Again I think Coach Heath is building for the long haul not overnight success. We are in for a tough rebuilding year in my opinion. The key for me is see as the season goes how if there is improvement.
Who are the two players not likely to play till October?

Let’s deal with this season’s EMU team as some good players will be departing at the end of the season.

EMU’s HC Heath has expressed optimism for this season before he was deep into recruiting. Now that the roster is complete and the team has been practicing, I’m looking forward to his comments about his team.

While you’re concerned EMU will not click early on, I would point-out that EMU has some high bb IQ experienced players who should able to click as they’ll have almost two months of of team practices to learn to execute over and over again Heath’s up-tempo early but structured system’s plays and options. But such should be answered by whether EMU early on commits more turnovers and fouls than their opponents do.

What I’m concerned is whether EMU has 3-4 players that are consistently good shooters who can get to the hoop. Scott, McBride, Farrakhan, and Rice are a good shooters that can get to the rim and foul-line. Spottsville can get to hoop. Not sure’s he’s a good jump shooter.

Looking forward to N.Scott, Binelli, and Ballard playing the PF position. Looking forward to seeing what they b

On defense, I’m optimistic that and 6’11 Mo Njie, and 7 foot Okongo can defend the paint and the rim. Might take time for NJie to adjust to new defensive concepts.

Want to see if Randle plays or is red-shirted. Is very think. Does need to get in weight room. Probably to raw to play much this season.
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