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Of course. Have to start somewhere though. NET is the main ranking used, so its logical to use here. Philly market is not going to play any part in selection. Not this year with all games in Indiana. Villanova is still in the tournament too. Eye test from the CAA tournament and our competitive loss to Pitt may help some (despite Pitt not being that good)

Abilene Christian is definitely ahead of us. Their NET and 17 wins is far superior to us. Our lack of total games played is not going to help us. We have more Q3 wins than them but 17 wins to 12 is not something we can overcome as a mid major.

Grand Canyon we are neck and neck with no matter how you slice it. Could go either way. So having them lose makes it easy. Same with Iona. Iona has history and Pitino in their favor.

Let me be clear, I want us to get into the realm of a 14 seed vs the 15 we currently sit. I think a 14 seed is much more likely to lead to a competitive game that can lead to a true bump in recruiting. 15/16 seeds help but dont move the needle a tremendous amount in itself.
(03-12-2021 10:12 AM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]Let me be clear, I want us to get into the realm of a 14 seed vs the 15 we currently sit. I think a 14 seed is much more likely to lead to a competitive game that can lead to a true bump in recruiting. 15/16 seeds help but dont move the needle a tremendous amount in itself.

i wouldn't split hairs too much here. lehigh was a 15 and beat duke but still wasn't able to translate that into much success. they made the cbi the following year when mccollum broke his ankle but haven't been to the postseason since.

that's catching lightning in a bottle thanks to a legacy player. spiker got contributions from lots of different directions. that's how you create a sustainable program. i wouldn't mind if one of the freshmen turned into mccollum though. it wouldn't hurt.
Iona held on tonight.

Southern Utah up 10 at half.

15 seed looking more and more likely
Championship to watch:

Iona vs Fairfield ( Iona is now a 15 seed in recent Bracketology)
Montana State vs Eastern Washington( EW is a 14 seed)
Nichols vs Abilene Christian( Nicholas is currently a 16 seed... so we should hope they beat AC)
New Mexico State vs Grand Canyon( GC is a 14 seed)
Loyola (MD) vs Colgate( Colgate is a 14 seed)
Any chance Ohio State gets a 1 seed?
(03-13-2021 03:08 PM)Dragon For Life Wrote: [ -> ]Any chance Ohio State gets a 1 seed?

Not a chance but if Iowa falls as they are doing to Illinois, I think OSU will be the top 2 seed which would mean we avoid them. I think that puts us against probably alabama. (assuming we are the 3rd 15)
If Texas wins over Ok State, they may sneak into a 2 seed. Arkansas lost today so theyll drop. Im starting to think we are looking at Iowa or Alabama.

Iona won today
(03-13-2021 06:25 PM)dan10 Wrote: [ -> ]Iona won today

So bummed to see Rick Pitino be successful and win a championship so quickly in the MAAC. I was hoping he's be a non-factor at Iona, just giving him something to do until retirement. I can't wait until Iona visits Rider next year. If the game doesn't conflict with a Drexel game, I'm getting tickets in advance to sit right behind the Iona bench.
I bet Rick gets a big time program who just fired a coach. His name recognition is slowly rebuilding. Right now Iona still is a 15 seed but probably a better 15 seed than Drexel?

Montana State vs Eastern Washington( EW is a 14 seed)
Nichols vs Abilene Christian( Nicholas is currently a 16 seed... so we should hope they beat AC)
New Mexico State vs Grand Canyon( GC is a 14 seed)
Loyola (MD) vs Colgate( Colgate is a 14 seed)
(03-13-2021 06:40 PM)Dragon For Life Wrote: [ -> ]I bet Rick gets a big time program who just fired a coach. His name recognition is slowly rebuilding. Right now Iona still is a 15 seed but probably a better 15 seed than Drexel?

Montana State vs Eastern Washington( EW is a 14 seed)
Nichols vs Abilene Christian( Nicholas is currently a 16 seed... so we should hope they beat AC)
New Mexico State vs Grand Canyon( GC is a 14 seed)
Loyola (MD) vs Colgate( Colgate is a 14 seed)

Those 4 are our only hope at moving up and we need 2 of those to go our way. I suspect Iona is ahead of us but its a coinflip
We should probably cheer for Colgate to win and then get the 2 seed their NET ranking suggests they should have. I'm sure the big schools would be fine with that - they didn't like mid-majors looking good in rpi so they came up with something that would favor them more - so the committee should just go with it.
Ha! With 2 Q2 wins and 0 Q1 not sure how their magical ranking is so high but good for them. 1 loss only helps but still. With that said Colgate is ahead of us lol
Texas Southern upset The SWAC and Houston may lose to Memphis
EWU up big quickly on montana state

Texas won the Big 12. I think they sneak up to a 2 now.

Houston likely falls to a 3.

OSU is going to be the top 2. Alabama is likely the 2nd 2, Iowa 3rd and Texas the 4th 2. We really need an upset to bump us to the top 15 or get us to the worst 14 and grab houston/Ok State

Lets go Nicholls and lets go NMSU
Drexel is now matched up to Houston and Oral Roberts who was a 15 is now a 16
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/...apes-sizes
ESPN women's bracketology has Drexel as a 13 seed in the Mercado Region facing off against Kentucky.

I know that they don't use RPI anymore, but the CAA was ranked 7th in RPI this year, just below the Power 5 and the Big East. Delaware has an RPI of 25, even after Drexel beat them. Drexel's RPI is 69th.

For the NET, CAA's NET is 16th, HUGE DIFFERENCE. Delaware is 69 and Drexel is 111. So switching from RPI to NET definitely hurts the CAA, but honestly I don't think it would have any effect on their seeding. Drexel is probably a 13 seed regardless of what method they use.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/14/us/ncaa-b...index.html says:

"Some teams like Appalachian State and Drexel haven't been to the big dance in a while."
With no help last night we are just about guaranteed a 15 seed. Colgate could lose today and we would gain 1 spot but we are still sitting as a solid 15. Cant see us falling to 16 or jumping to 14. I think we are the 2nd or 3rd 15 seed which to me looks more and more likely to be Iowa. If we can grab Houston that would be ideal, but that would mean if seeded straight along ranked teams, we would have to be the best 15 seed, which seems like a stretch. I have OSU as the top 2 seed now and Alabama as the 2nd. Most have Bama as the top 2 but if OSU wins today they have to jump them.

So to me looking at it it seems it is probably 75% its Iowa. Only way I see us drawing Houston is if Colgate loses today, or the committee magically seeds us above Iona. To me we are more likely to draw Bama or OSU over Houston. I suppose if they try to keep Iowa and OSU away from both Michigan and Illinois its also possible, but as top 2 seeds I dont think that factors into the bracketeering.
Push come to shove, Drexel is a team that had a losing record in their conference and only played one game against a power 5 team, even though another was cancelled. The NCAA won't give them any sympathy for their opponents cancelling all of their games. So a 15 seed is probably where they belong.
I do stand corrected from Drachen. Seeds 1-4 from the same conference cant be in same bracket. So that means Michigan and Illinois wont have Iow or OSU in their bracket. That really increases our chance to face either Alabama or Houston

Illinois looks to be #3 1 seed
Michigan looks to be the #4 1 seed (these may flip flop if OSU wins the tournament in a bit but doesnt really change anything for us)

This means that to avoid the Big 10 teams we need to be the worst 15 seed to be in Michigan bracket or the 2nd worst 15 which would be in Illinois bracket. But it seems like the 2 seeds will truly have to be bracketed due to not being able to be in the 1 seeds bracket

Gonzaga, Baylor, Illinois, Michigan is what the 1s look like
Alabama/OSU, Iowa, Houston appear to be solidly as the 2s.

That likely means even if OSU wins they would be locked in as the 3rd 2 seed and Alabama would be 1 and Houston jumps to 2.

So again if we are on the 2/3 line of the 15s that would mean we

If we are a top 2 15 seed we would be facing a big 10 team, likely OSU (if we are the worst 15 we get Iowa)

If we are a bottom 2 15 seed we face Alabama or Houston

I have us as the 2nd best 15 though many have us as the the third 15.

So if we are the third ranked 15 seed we get Houston
So if we are the second ranked 15 seed we get Ohio State


I think those are the most likely. So my odds have changed with this piece of bracketing information and this we are looking at OSU or Houston. My gut says itll be OSU. Houston would be the ideal draw as a 15 seed.

If Houston loses to Cincy they will drop out and whoever jumps into a 2 seed would take their place (Either Oklahoma State or Texas probably)
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