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https://notthebee.com/article/watch-this...his-racism

So much wrong here

What kind of person would sit in the pew and listen to anything this panty waste had to say?

(03-10-2021 11:44 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of person would sit in the pew and listen to anything this panty waste had to say?

I don't know why the left pretends to be christian. Their religion is wokeness and the government. A "pastor" who is gay (biblical sexual immorality) and believes Jesus sinned is not a Christian. I personally am not a Christian (grew up very religious), but even I'm offended by this leftist nonsense.

I thought Jesus was black or brown.

Yeah, so is Jesus now back to being the white Jesus??? ... since, you know, he's a racist.

(03-10-2021 12:28 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2021 11:44 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of person would sit in the pew and listen to anything this panty waste had to say?

I don't know why the left pretends to be christian. Their religion is wokeness and the government. A "pastor" who is gay (biblical sexual immorality) and believes Jesus sinned is not a Christian. I personally am not a Christian (grew up very religious), but even I'm offended by this leftist nonsense.

The answer is votes

Pandering for votes

Just from a theological standpoint, I'm not sure how he can make that claim.

(03-10-2021 12:28 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]I thought Jesus was black or brown.

He was middle eastern which is white. Skin color is not the end all to describing a person's race. It's just pigmentation. I've know Italians and Greeks darker than me.

Besides, who has ever seen a picture of Jesus? No one. Which reminded me of my brother who was an artist who asked me if I had a picture of one of the disciples and I told him just to paint anyones face, that there weren't any pictures of any of them. He got mad and told me that there was because he's seen one. Ha, ha, I guess that disciple decided to show his face on Facebook.

Wow, next time I need to know the race of an area of the world, regardless of skin color, I know who to ask.

Are the people living in China white like the middle easterners?

"Doctrines of demons"

"Wolves in sheep's clothing"

Quote: He was middle eastern which is white.

Depending on who you’re asking, sure.

What exactly is this video evidence of if I can ask?

(03-10-2021 02:07 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2021 12:28 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]I thought Jesus was black or brown.

He was middle eastern which is white. Skin color is not the end all to describing a person's race. It's just pigmentation. I've know Italians and Greeks darker than me.

Besides, who has ever seen a picture of Jesus? No one. Which reminded me of my brother who was an artist who asked me if I had a picture of one of the disciples and I told him just to paint anyones face, that there weren't any pictures of any of them. He got mad and told me that there was because he's seen one. Ha, ha, I guess that disciple decided to show his face on Facebook.

Here is why race has always caused problems. Everybody has their own sliding scale.

This article's author is not very measured in the tone of his response. Many appeals to emotion, and some theological leaps.

I suppose I do disagree with the 'Woke' pastor's interpretation just the same.

Jesus was questioning the woman on whether she thought herself worthy to have her daughter healed. The woman agreed that it was not by her own worth that her daughter should be healed, but that it would be by the grace of God.

An attractive statement the pastor makes is that Jesus was human, had prejudices and bias, and was willing to work to shed those.

There are often 2 theological perspectives of the incarnation. One is that Jesus had access to perfect knowledge and therefore was perfectly righteous in his human judgement. The other is that the Christ emptied himself of certain things including perfect knowledge, and therefore Jesus learned and grew much like any human, discovering new truths to the day he died.

The first perspective dominates conservative theology (in which I was trained) in large part because it is easier to simply equate Jesus to the Christ. But I think we lose perspective of Jesus's humanity when we do this, and statements like this Pastor's rub us the wrong way. (though calling Jesus a racist was rather triggering too)

(10-27-2021 08:14 PM)Crayton Wrote: [ -> ]This article's author is not very measured in the tone of his response. Many appeals to emotion, and some theological leaps.

I suppose I do disagree with the 'Woke' pastor's interpretation just the same.

Jesus was questioning the woman on whether she thought herself worthy to have her daughter healed. The woman agreed that it was not by her own worth that her daughter should be healed, but that it would be by the grace of God.

An attractive statement the pastor makes is that Jesus was human, had prejudices and bias, and was willing to work to shed those.

There are often 2 theological perspectives of the incarnation. One is that Jesus had access to perfect knowledge and therefore was perfectly righteous in his human judgement. The other is that the Christ emptied himself of certain things including perfect knowledge, and therefore Jesus learned and grew much like any human, discovering new truths to the day he died.

The first perspective dominates conservative theology (in which I was trained) in large part because it is easier to simply equate Jesus to the Christ. But I think we lose perspective of Jesus's humanity when we do this, and statements like this Pastor's rub us the wrong way. (though calling Jesus a racist was rather triggering too)

There are certain aspects of Christ and the Father that we simply cannot understand the depth of yet. Not doctrine based perspectives but more of the exact detail of how He was God in the flesh, and how He was the Son and how He had full spiritual knowledge yet grew as a child and man in those things.

Its clear from scripture He was not born will full knowledge and that He studied, learned and grew. But its also clear the Spirit of God descended upon Him and also played a big role in his spiritual growth and understanding.

Theologically the Bible teaches the aspect that this was God experiencing life as a mortal and shedding his own blood for our redemption. How can the eternal God know what its like to be a mortal man unless He has really been one AS A MAN, not as God the eternal creator? So there is clearly some aspect of understanding that He set aside to experience life as a mortal with all the fears, struggles and death itself as a man experience. Remember how He wept, remember the total horror and fear He experienced the night before the crucifixion, even though He knew what was coming and what He was there to do and why.

Yet he was in total misery and suffered with overwhelming fear and dread the night before His arrest as any mortal man would have knowing what was to come. If He had not set aside some aspect of knowledge and consciousness that He had from before His mortal birth, He would not have experience the fear and suffering as a man in the same manner.

This is actually a good point to use when debating non believers and agnostics who question why we have to struggle and suffer in life. God is not asking anyone to experience or deal with anything He Himself did not make Himself go through. Even as our Eternal creator He too experienced life, struggles, pain and fear and even death itself that all go through in life. God seeks fellowship with us on a personal and intimate level, and how can He really know us if He never experienced what its like to be us. So one of the whole points of the life if Jesus is just that. God willingly humbled Himself to the flesh and even death itself. That is also a major difference between the God of the Bible and other false gods.

Personally (in a general sense) I am not a fan of these type of theological debates, because we can't grasp the full depth and width of this yet and its appears we are not expected to. I also think it takes away from studying the things the Word teaches us, and focuses more on a speculative theology with no real conclusions available to us.

But I understand why people get into it, its very human.

^Great post

Repent, and committed the sin of racism?!? How could Christ be the savior of the world if that was so. Christ would have fell from grace just like Adam if he had sinned.

(11-25-2021 06:00 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: [ -> ]Repent, and committed the sin of racism?!? How could Christ be the savior of the world if that was so. Christ would have fell from grace just like Adam if he had sinned.

That's what the clown does not seem to grasp.

If Jesus had sinned, He is no longer about to save us by His own death and blood on the cross.

The idiot invalidated the entire crucifixion and salvation for every human on earth by making Christ a sinner. The only way we have forgiveness is by the sacrifice of Christ and His perfect sinless life.

Yet another preacher shows he is ignorant of the most basic and elementary doctrine of the Bible. I bet he never bothered to read even one single gospel all the way through, much less the entire basis of the sacrificial system in the OT that set the stage and made the cross possible.

(03-10-2021 12:28 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2021 11:44 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of person would sit in the pew and listen to anything this panty waste had to say?

I don't know why the left pretends to be christian. Their religion is wokeness and the government. A "pastor" who is gay (biblical sexual immorality) and believes Jesus sinned is not a Christian. I personally am not a Christian (grew up very religious), but even I'm offended by this leftist nonsense.

How come you are not a Christian? Do you not believe Jesus was real, died on the cross and rose on the 3rd day?

Have you been deceived into believing there is no way to know if the gospel and Bible are true or not?

The notion that we have no hard evidence the Bible is true is a flat out lie. But its a lie we are told our entire lives, even in many churches. In fact Biblical based Christianity is the only religion on earth that has hard core evidence and proof behind it.

There are several ways we can know its real. Biblical Christianity is NOT based on blind faith, nor does it teach blind faith.

But if you ask most people, even many Christians, they think it is.

Much like the MSM today, the propaganda is strong and works if you repeat it enough times. If you tell people over and over and over there is no evidence or proof and its all about blind faith, people think its a fact.

Just like millions think Rittenhouse shot 3 blacks and Trump colluded with Russia. Propaganda works. And it works 10 fold when you WANT it to be true on some level.

(03-10-2021 12:28 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2021 11:44 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of person would sit in the pew and listen to anything this panty waste had to say?

I don't know why the left pretends to be christian. Their religion is wokeness and the government. A "pastor" who is gay (biblical sexual immorality) and believes Jesus sinned is not a Christian. I personally am not a Christian (grew up very religious), but even I'm offended by this leftist nonsense.

I'm just curious about your take on what makes someone a Christian?

If it's some variation of a salvation message that claims God's need for Divine Justice means He must punish man's sin, and that His Son had to take on the punishment we deserve, and experience God's wrath so that we wouldn't have to be banished to Hell ourselves-- well, if so, then it would make sense why you'd reject Christianity.