Might as well ...
Picked this up on the WIU fan board, then checked it on Twitter.:
"Basketball Scoop
@Bballscoop1·2h
Three names that I am hearing for the Northern Illinois job that's being run by Parker Search Firm are: Western Illinois HC Rob Jeter, UNLV AC Tim Buckley and Iowa State AC Daniyal Robinson. It's Rob Jeter's job to lose."
https://twitter.com/Bballscoop1/status/1...4744527878
Is Jeter 7-14 this season at WIU, and just got completely blown out by Oral Roberts? This is our guy? Hope not.
Western finished 7-14/5-9 (Summit) in RJ's first season. They play Summit #2 seed South Dakota in the conference tournament on March 6, 8:45 p.m. tipoff (ESPN+ if you'd care to watch to see style-of-play). Leathernecks were 5-21/2-14 the year before and did not even make the Summit tourney. Did some good recruiting; tho Nick Irvin might have had a hand in that, Jeter hired him. Irvin could step right up to take over for Jeter if he made the move.
I'm NOT saying anyone is first, second third or 15th for the HC job at NIU ... just posting stuff I found. I also haven't checked/don't know anything about the others.
(03-01-2021 09:32 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Is Jeter 7-14 this season at WIU, and just got completely blown out by Oral Roberts? This is our guy? Hope not.
I just assume Rob Jeter's friends are all over the media pumping him up. I hope STF does not bite.
Of those three, I would prefer Robinson. Jeter (184-170) and Buckley (143-139) had very similar mediocre, long runs at UWM and Ball State.
I would prefer the possible upside of Robinson.
Buckley (Aurora), Robinson (Rock Island), and Jeter (grew up in Chicago) are all Illinois guys.
(03-01-2021 10:00 PM)NIU75 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021 09:32 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Is Jeter 7-14 this season at WIU, and just got completely blown out by Oral Roberts? This is our guy? Hope not.
I just assume Rob Jeter's friends are all over the media pumping him up. I hope STF does not bite.
Hate to break it to you but STFu bites
(03-01-2021 09:25 PM)pvk75 Wrote: [ -> ]Might as well ...
Picked this up on the WIU fan board, then checked it on Twitter.:
"Basketball Scoop
@Bballscoop1·2h
Three names that I am hearing for the Northern Illinois job that's being run by Parker Search Firm are: Western Illinois HC Rob Jeter, UNLV AC Tim Buckley and Iowa State AC Daniyal Robinson. It's Rob Jeter's job to lose."
https://twitter.com/Bballscoop1/status/1...4744527878
Lol at the first two.
Sounds like more years ahead of seasons like we had with Monty. Why would Jeter be top of the list. Makes no sense.
(03-01-2021 09:32 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Is Jeter 7-14 this season at WIU, and just got completely blown out by Oral Roberts? This is our guy? Hope not.
He has a completely new roster at a perennial 300+ program, and delivered the school’s first 5-game winning streak against D1 programs since Molinari coached there 8 years ago.
Rob Jeter is very well-respected in the industry. He would be NIU’s best coach in 30 years.
(03-01-2021 11:27 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021 09:25 PM)pvk75 Wrote: [ -> ]Might as well ...
Picked this up on the WIU fan board, then checked it on Twitter.:
"Basketball Scoop
@Bballscoop1·2h
Three names that I am hearing for the Northern Illinois job that's being run by Parker Search Firm are: Western Illinois HC Rob Jeter, UNLV AC Tim Buckley and Iowa State AC Daniyal Robinson. It's Rob Jeter's job to lose."
https://twitter.com/Bballscoop1/status/1...4744527878
Lol at the first two.
Sounds like more years ahead of seasons like we had with Monty. Why would Jeter be top of the list. Makes no sense.
Jeter won 19 games half his seasons at UWM. They haven’t sniffed 19 wins in 5 seasons since - and that includes an 11-24 season with the current Butler coach.
WIU board loves him. They’re worried about this rumor. That should tell you something.
He was very popular at UWM too - many of their fans pulled donations when the school fired him after a 20-win season. Attendance dropped 46% the year after firing him.
(03-01-2021 10:08 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: [ -> ]Of those three, I would prefer Robinson. Jeter (184-170) and Buckley (143-139) had very similar mediocre, long runs at UWM and Ball State.
I would prefer the possible upside of Robinson.
Buckley (Aurora) and Robinson (Rock Island) are both Illinois guys.
184-170 is good for UWM. It’s a better percentage than Bo Ryan and LaVall Jordan.
Jeter took UWM to 2 of its 4 NCAA Tournament appearances. And the only reason it’s not 3 is because UWM faced national runner-up Butler in the Horizon Final — the same national runner-up UWM swept in the regular season and held a 1-seed over.
(03-02-2021 01:45 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021 10:08 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: [ -> ]Of those three, I would prefer Robinson. Jeter (184-170) and Buckley (143-139) had very similar mediocre, long runs at UWM and Ball State.
I would prefer the possible upside of Robinson.
Buckley (Aurora) and Robinson (Rock Island) are both Illinois guys.
184-170 is good for UWM. It’s a better percentage than Bo Ryan and LaVall Jordan.
Jeter took UWM to 2 of its 4 NCAA Tournament appearances. And the only reason it’s not 3 is because UWM faced national runner-up Butler in the Horizon Final — the same national runner-up UWM swept in the regular season and held a 1-seed over.
Ah, well, Bo Ryan was also 353-76, with three national champions, at Wisconsin-Platteville before going to UWM. Bo was only at UWM for two years and won 15 games both years. My only point being that Bo had a substantially better and deeper resume before he even went to Wisconsin, where he went 364 - 130. Bo was a great college basketball coach. If I thought Jeter was even close to Bo Ryan, I would take him yesterday.
Jeter would certainly be an experienced coach, but, 14 games over .500 in 11 years isn’t world beating. I will say his Horizon League record was much better and I suspect they were frequently over-scheduled in non-conference. He might be fine, but, just wouldn’t be my pick.
Given the extended lead-time, I suspect we will find out very quickly once the season ends.
Some bio on Buckley: current season is first year at UNLV after 2 years as Minnesota Timberwolves scout. Before that, asst at Indiana and Marquette with HC Tom Crean in both places, and asst at Iowa with HC Steve Alford. Buckley was HC at Ball State 2000-06 and Rockford for 4 years before that. First job was asst at Bemidji State. Played there and at Waubonsee CC in Sugar Grove, and is from Aurora.
Some bio on Robinson: asst coach at Iowa State, his second stint at ISU. He helped form and is chairman of the Black Assistant Coaches Alliance (BACA) following the death of George Floyd. ISU people are big on those efforts and benefits.
https://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/bi...8f9b6.html
He has also been an asst. at Loyola-Chicago, Houston, Illinois State and Arkansas-Little Rock (alma mater). Also attended Indian Hills CC in Iowa. From Rock Island.
If I'm not mistaken, Jeter is under contract at WIU for 5 seasons at 350k. There has to be a buyout number for that contract. If he's making 350k at WIU, and that number is basically what we all figure is going to be given to the next NIU coach, how do the financials work out and, where is the incentive for Jeter to leave WIU after 1 season?
Granted, the WAC is one of the few conferences I'd say the MAC is clearly better than but I wouldn't say his chances of winning at NIU are all that much better than WIU and, if he's willing to jump ship after just one season at WIU for a, presumably, greener pasture, then there's nothing going to stop him from leaving NIU in a year or two if there is some kind of improvement in record from this year...which isn't hard to do.
Take Brad Underwood for example. Now, his story is on a higher plane than Jeter's but Underwood was extremely successful at Stephen F. Austin and turned that into a gig at Oklahoma State. He took a team that, most likely, underachieved in the year prior to his hiring and then overachieved in is 1st year at OK St. He immediately went on the stump for a new contract and then jumped to Illinois.
He never had to prove himself at Oklahoma State, he just had more success (considerably more, mind you) with guys he didn't recruit.
Honestly, I'm sure Jeter would be an upgrade on what we've had. But I would never have faith in him sticking around if the team improved.
Which, I suppose, isn't the worst thing that could happen, but it's also not a great situation. SIU pulled it off for a little while from Rich Herrin to Bruce Webber to Matt Painter and then but once the Webber/Painter recruits dried up, Chris Lowery was in over his head and SIU is still trying to figure their way out of it.
It's been 13 years since an NCAA berth (and 12 for a post season tournament) for a team that was once considered to be near the top of the mid-major pecking order.
Either way, I'm not sure there is a fantastic and obvious choice here. As long as it's not either Kenny Battle or Xavier Silas, I'm sure I'll be fine.
Hey!
I was the first to knock and knock the search firms hard. But, I like these candidates. I really do. Granted, that's on paper. I, if I were the one hiring, would have to meet them. I would have to see the desire, the enthusiasm in their eyes, get a feel for their plans. Get a feel for how realistic it is given our situation. And then see. Maybe it's none of them. Maybe it's any one of them.
But for now, on paper, I think any one of those three could potentially be the guy.
(Not saying I could not have generated similar options without the search firm.... just saying they didn't totally screw up if these are options they generated... worth the money? Shrug-- dunno)
Isn't there a hungry young coach at an FCS or lower school with 3 consecutive 18/20-win seasons we can poach. Why go after safe mediocrity like Jeter, yuck. Established midwestern/Chicago ties are overrated sometimes. Jeter is 184-170, thats what you're getting at the end of the day.
Our program needs the "P.J. Fleck" of basketball coaches, not a safe-harbor hire. Someone screaming at pancake breakfasts for the locals to show up...
(03-02-2021 01:02 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't there a hungry young coach at an FCS or lower school with 3 consecutive 18/20-win seasons we can poach. Why go after safe mediocrity like Jeter, yuck. Established midwestern/Chicago ties are overrated sometimes. Jeter is 184-170, thats what you're getting at the end of the day.
Our program needs the "P.J. Fleck" of basketball coaches, not a safe-harbor hire. Someone screaming at pancake breakfasts for the locals to show up...
Everyone is looking for that guy too. Our history and budget have severe impacts to what we can do. But you are right, we should be at least targeting those types and looking to at least hold convos.
You know who's young and hungry? Xavier Silas.
(03-02-2021 01:09 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:02 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't there a hungry young coach at an FCS or lower school with 3 consecutive 18/20-win seasons we can poach. Why go after safe mediocrity like Jeter, yuck. Established midwestern/Chicago ties are overrated sometimes. Jeter is 184-170, thats what you're getting at the end of the day.
Our program needs the "P.J. Fleck" of basketball coaches, not a safe-harbor hire. Someone screaming at pancake breakfasts for the locals to show up...
Everyone is looking for that guy too. Our history and budget have severe impacts to what we can do. But you are right, we should be at least targeting those types and looking to at least hold convos.
You know who's young and hungry? Xavier Silas.
True that. That gets me more excited. His heart is at NIU, Monty's was never.
Of course the board can do what it wants with any thread -- start a thread and it belongs to the board -- but the thread name and OP are about who is actually being mentioned ... out there.
As for Silas and his self-promotion, or anyone else anyone has named on other threads, do we have to do that all over again? I thought we kinda beat that into the ground on at least two other threads. And I doubt Parker is being paid to collect votes off this board.
So we have three names. Has anyone heard of anyone else, mentions on any other posts, anything?
In the meantime, just in case, I plan to watch some of the WIU-South Dakota game on Saturday. I want to see what Jeter's scheme for rebuilding a program looks like out on the court. Jeter took over a real mess at WIU, and their athletic budget is a lot smaller than NIU's.
(03-02-2021 01:31 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:09 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:02 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't there a hungry young coach at an FCS or lower school with 3 consecutive 18/20-win seasons we can poach. Why go after safe mediocrity like Jeter, yuck. Established midwestern/Chicago ties are overrated sometimes. Jeter is 184-170, thats what you're getting at the end of the day.
Our program needs the "P.J. Fleck" of basketball coaches, not a safe-harbor hire. Someone screaming at pancake breakfasts for the locals to show up...
Everyone is looking for that guy too. Our history and budget have severe impacts to what we can do. But you are right, we should be at least targeting those types and looking to at least hold convos.
You know who's young and hungry? Xavier Silas.
True that. That gets me more excited. His heart is at NIU, Monty's was never.
I'm kidding with Silas. I would definitely look at signing him on as an assistant. Not a headcoach.
(03-02-2021 01:40 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:31 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:09 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021 01:02 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't there a hungry young coach at an FCS or lower school with 3 consecutive 18/20-win seasons we can poach. Why go after safe mediocrity like Jeter, yuck. Established midwestern/Chicago ties are overrated sometimes. Jeter is 184-170, thats what you're getting at the end of the day.
Our program needs the "P.J. Fleck" of basketball coaches, not a safe-harbor hire. Someone screaming at pancake breakfasts for the locals to show up...
Everyone is looking for that guy too. Our history and budget have severe impacts to what we can do. But you are right, we should be at least targeting those types and looking to at least hold convos.
You know who's young and hungry? Xavier Silas.
True that. That gets me more excited. His heart is at NIU, Monty's was never.
I'm kidding with Silas. I would definitely look at signing him on as an assistant. Not a headcoach.
Hah, still prefer that vibe 100% in any case. Safe/older mediocre coach will not pump up the convo.