(02-16-2021 10:01 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote: [ -> ]clt projects 3 bids
WKU, La Tech and Marshall give us the best chance for three bids
It would take WKU and La Tech to win out, and Marshall to upset in the tournament.
WKU is 75 in the NET, and is 4-2 in quad 1 and quad 2. One of those wins being @ #9 Alabama.
La Tech is 86 in the NET, and is 3-3 in quad 1 and quad 2.
Marshall is 68 in the NET, however is only 2-4 in quad 1 and quad 2.
No one else in CUSA in the top 100 have more than one quad 1 or 2 wins.
There is still time to make headway. La Tech was in the 120's a few weeks ago, and now after sweeping UAB jumped nearly 40 spots.
If a few teams win out, and distance themselves from this pack, we might have something here.
What kills us is 50-50 booking, trading wins and no one separating.
(02-16-2021 10:27 AM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]There is still time to make headway. La Tech was in the 120's a few weeks ago, and now after sweeping UAB jumped nearly 40 spots.
If a few teams win out, and distance themselves from this pack, we might have something here.
What kills us is 50-50 booking, trading wins and no one separating.
Considering Tech jump 40 spots make me really question how valid the NET ranking actually is, Maybe more so closer to the end of the season but the early season NET rankings are total garbage
I Said that at the beginning of the season when Tech was ranked 180
Tech was 13-5 in conference and 22-8 last year with good shot of winning the conference tournament but yet was rank 180 Net ?
Considering teams worse than Tech (Marshall included) last year were ranked much higher.
WKU has won 6 straight games and I don’t believe our Net ranking has moved at all...... we are a one big league like it or not
(02-16-2021 10:45 AM)Dawgxas Wrote: [ -> ] (02-16-2021 10:27 AM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]There is still time to make headway. La Tech was in the 120's a few weeks ago, and now after sweeping UAB jumped nearly 40 spots.
If a few teams win out, and distance themselves from this pack, we might have something here.
What kills us is 50-50 booking, trading wins and no one separating.
Considering Tech jump 40 spots make me really question how valid the NET ranking actually is, Maybe more so closer to the end of the season but the early season NET rankings are total garbage
I Said that at the beginning of the season when Tech was ranked 180
Tech was 13-5 in conference and 22-8 last year with good shot of winning the conference tournament but yet was rank 180 Net ?
Considering teams worse than Tech (Marshall included) last year were ranked much higher.
So does the net build off of last seasons and rankings, or do they start from scratch like the rpi?
(02-16-2021 10:56 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote: [ -> ]WKU has won 6 straight games and I don’t believe our Net ranking has moved at all...... we are a one big league like it or not
I think that Alabama win is looking better and better.
I still feel it's potential, but Western is the only team who could get an at large.
Tech was 140 in the first NET poll, ranked 7th in CUSA. UAB was 59. I said then the NET poll was garbage
Tech was 8-3 when the poll came out and like I said 22-8 and 13-5 from the previous season.
(02-16-2021 11:04 AM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ] (02-16-2021 10:45 AM)Dawgxas Wrote: [ -> ] (02-16-2021 10:27 AM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]There is still time to make headway. La Tech was in the 120's a few weeks ago, and now after sweeping UAB jumped nearly 40 spots.
If a few teams win out, and distance themselves from this pack, we might have something here.
What kills us is 50-50 booking, trading wins and no one separating.
Considering Tech jump 40 spots make me really question how valid the NET ranking actually is, Maybe more so closer to the end of the season but the early season NET rankings are total garbage
I Said that at the beginning of the season when Tech was ranked 180
Tech was 13-5 in conference and 22-8 last year with good shot of winning the conference tournament but yet was rank 180 Net ?
Considering teams worse than Tech (Marshall included) last year were ranked much higher.
So does the net build off of last seasons and rankings, or do they start from scratch like the rpi?
I don’t think it uses any previous data, UTEP was ranked 102, UAB 59, Tech 140.
I think the more the season plays out the more accurate it becomes unlike KenPom which uses previous season as a base
The only way Tech dances is to claim the automatic bid, and given our tendency to suck at the FT line in crucial games at crucial moments, well...
Tech has received ONE at-large bid in our entire history and that's been 30 years ago. Went in as #9 seed, beat #8 LaSalle and then lost to Oklahoma in the second round.
As for other CUSA prospects getting an at-large, who? And what would it take? Probably will need some help with other bubble teams losing out down the stretch.
(02-16-2021 11:06 AM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ] (02-16-2021 10:56 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote: [ -> ]WKU has won 6 straight games and I don’t believe our Net ranking has moved at all...... we are a one big league like it or not
I think that Alabama win is looking better and better.
I still feel it's potential, but Western is the only team who could get an at large.
We should’ve beaten W. Virginia. We had a 10 point lead and then Bassey suffered an injury and we just started chunking up 3’s. That win, coupled with the ones we have, might have sealed an at large (assuming we finish the year strong).
(02-16-2021 11:19 AM)Tech80 Wrote: [ -> ]The only way Tech dances is to claim the automatic bid, and given our tendency to suck at the FT line in crucial games at crucial moments, well...
Tech has received ONE at-large bid in our entire history and that's been 30 years ago. Went in as #9 seed, beat #8 LaSalle and then lost to Oklahoma in the second round.
As for other CUSA prospects getting an at-large, who? And what would it take? Probably will need some help with other bubble teams losing out down the stretch.
It would take WKU and La Tech to win out, and Marshall/ODU/UNT/UAB to win the tournament.
WKU currently has an RPI of 38 and a road win @ #9 Alabama.
La Tech has an RPI of 45, and could make an at large if they win out, but lose in the championship.
I know the RPI isn't being used, but it's another data point. Considering this 2 bid article is from CBS (partnership with the tournament committee) there could be some juice to this.
La Tech has no at large shot. RPI means nothing. It isn’t a data point because it isn’t used. WKU is, has been, and will continue to be the only team with a shot at an at large. Our only realistic hope at a second at large was UAB winning out to the conference finals and then sitting there with a large quantity of wins and Good NET numbers on selection Sunday. I still doubt that would have been enough, but it was all we had left. La Tech took care of business, and that’s no longer an option.
I also forgot about the WKU collapse against WVU. That win likely would’ve been enough to have them solidly in the field at this point.
I think WKU is the only team with a legitimate chance for an at large. They need to finish strong and still might need some help from other bubble teams.
(02-16-2021 10:56 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote: [ -> ]WKU has won 6 straight games and I don’t believe our Net ranking has moved at all...... we are a one big league like it or not
Winning at UNT on Friday would be a Quad 1 win for Western.
(02-16-2021 11:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote: [ -> ]La Tech has no at large shot. RPI means nothing. It isn’t a data point because it isn’t used. WKU is, has been, and will continue to be the only team with a shot at an at large. Our only realistic hope at a second at large was UAB winning out to the conference finals and then sitting there with a large quantity of wins and Good NET numbers on selection Sunday. I still doubt that would have been enough, but it was all we had left. La Tech took care of business, and that’s no longer an option.
I also forgot about the WKU collapse against WVU. That win likely would’ve been enough to have them solidly in the field at this point.
We did give that game away as I stated above, but to be fair, Bassey suffered an injury in the game which is obviously a big deal. We did, however, play very stupidly when he went out of the game.
(02-16-2021 08:56 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]CBS Sports latest bracket projection has both WKU and North Texas projected to make the tournament. WKU as a 10 and UNT as a 13.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
There were projections for the last couple of weeks that had CUSA as a 2-bid conference except the teams were UAB and WKU. Swap UAB with UNT now with WKU still projecting for an at-large. What I don't get if they think WKU is good enough for an at-large bid why do they not think they could get the auto-bid by winning the conference tourney?
This weekend games are huge for UNT. A sweep for UNT probably hurts WKU chances for an at-large. A WKU sweep probably makes CUSA a one bid league. A split keeps things status quo.
(02-16-2021 12:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-16-2021 08:56 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: [ -> ]CBS Sports latest bracket projection has both WKU and North Texas projected to make the tournament. WKU as a 10 and UNT as a 13.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
There were projections for the last couple of weeks that had CUSA as a 2-bid conference except the teams were UAB and WKU. Swap UAB with UNT now with WKU still projecting for an at-large. What I don't get if they think WKU is good enough for an at-large bid why do they not think they could get the auto-bid by winning the conference tourney?
This weekend games are huge for UNT. A sweep for UNT probably hurts WKU chances for an at-large. A WKU sweep probably makes CUSA a one bid league. A split keeps things status quo.
WKU could win out and lose in the CUSA championship. That would make them 9-1 out of their last 10, probably a NET in the 50s, RPI in the 20's to 30's and a big OOC win.
That's a good resume.
I think they pick up an at large if this happens.