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Not sure where the sticky thread went, but we got a commitment yesterday from 2022 SG Mekhi Mason. From Arizona, offers from North Carolina A&T and Grand Canyon. Very much in the mold of Sheffield. Long and lanky, as Pera prefers his guards to be. In the few highlights I've seen, he looked to be a good shooter with range. More important that his shot mechanics look fine which they do. Scouts on Twitter have mentioned his defense, which we love to hear. The way I would describe him is deliberate. His quickness and athleticism don't stand out watching him play, but his handle looks decently tight and there's definitely some springiness there.

Note that he becomes the second and hopefully (because it'll mean no transfers) final 2022 commit. Both he and Andrew King are from Arizona. This also interestingly means that Pera will have not recruited a big man for two straight classes, at least before any transfers. The 2021 and 2022 classes now include essentially four SGs or wings (6-8 Geron, 6-6 McDowell, 6-5 Mason, 6-3 King) and one PG, though Lawrence hasn't signed because we're still unsure whether there's actually a scholarship open.
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/...o-transfer

Supposedly we're one of the schools that has reached out to this transfer.
(01-19-2021 06:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/...o-transfer

Supposedly we're one of the schools that has reached out to this transfer.

Same for Harvard grad transfer Danilo Djuricic. I'm honestly not sure what's happening with recruiting. As far as I can tell, we're one commitment over our limit as it is.

Regardless, you always take a guy who was the highest scoring freshman in his conference. Allen-Eikens averaged 14 ppg and 5 rpg on 47/32/74 splits.
Rice picks up a commitment from Cornell grad transfer Terrance McBride. He's a combo guard who averaged 12.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, and 3.2 apg on 48/32/77 splits. Cornell struggled in 19-20, so the numbers are probably inflated a bit. But he looks like a fine pickup nonetheless. Watched a few quick highlights of his last year at Cornell. Looks like he has a good handle and some shiftiness. Shot mechanics look pretty good, honestly. There's definitely been some inconsistency shooting it from 3, but his clean release gives you optimism that he can get it into the mid-30s.

Assuming he'll enroll and play next season, I'm left utterly perplexed. We're one scholarship over the limit next year and that's with Lawrence (our lone PG) not signed. McBride puts us two scholarships over the limit. I guess my assumptions are then: Lawrence will play elsewhere (bummer because everybody by this point knows my criticisms about us not recruiting true PGs), Havsa and Clark will graduate (I'm honestly not 100% they could come back because I don't know enough about the COVID rules), Ondigo isn't expected to be back, and maybe Lieppert becomes a PWO or WO? That would open up two spots for Lawrence and McBride. I guess if only one of those things happens then we'll be with McBride but not Lawrence.

No coach seeks commitments expecting transfers in college basketball. Just doesn't happen, unless of course somebody has told the coach they're not going to be back. So there has to be stuff in the works now, either with players on the roster or guys we've signed.
(02-08-2021 07:06 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]Rice picks up a commitment from Cornell grad transfer Terrance McBride. He's a combo guard who averaged 12.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, and 3.2 apg on 48/32/77 splits. Cornell struggled in 19-20, so the numbers are probably inflated a bit. But he looks like a fine pickup nonetheless. Watched a few quick highlights of his last year at Cornell. Looks like he has a good handle and some shiftiness. Shot mechanics look pretty good, honestly. There's definitely been some inconsistency shooting it from 3, but his clean release gives you optimism that he can get it into the mid-30s.

Assuming he'll enroll and play next season, I'm left utterly perplexed. We're one scholarship over the limit next year and that's with Lawrence (our lone PG) not signed. McBride puts us two scholarships over the limit. I guess my assumptions are then: Lawrence will play elsewhere (bummer because everybody by this point knows my criticisms about us not recruiting true PGs), Havsa and Clark will graduate (I'm honestly not 100% they could come back because I don't know enough about the COVID rules), Ondigo isn't expected to be back, and maybe Lieppert becomes a PWO or WO? That would open up two spots for Lawrence and McBride. I guess if only one of those things happens then we'll be with McBride but not Lawrence.

No coach seeks commitments expecting transfers in college basketball. Just doesn't happen, unless of course somebody has told the coach they're not going to be back. So there has to be stuff in the works now, either with players on the roster or guys we've signed.

So Ondigo is gone gone? I must’ve missed that. Maybe we’re finally using the Rice investment for basketball players. Bloomgren has done a good job expanding the football roster. 1 or 2 extra guys for basketball would make a much bigger impact.
(02-08-2021 07:38 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2021 07:06 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]Rice picks up a commitment from Cornell grad transfer Terrance McBride. He's a combo guard who averaged 12.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, and 3.2 apg on 48/32/77 splits. Cornell struggled in 19-20, so the numbers are probably inflated a bit. But he looks like a fine pickup nonetheless. Watched a few quick highlights of his last year at Cornell. Looks like he has a good handle and some shiftiness. Shot mechanics look pretty good, honestly. There's definitely been some inconsistency shooting it from 3, but his clean release gives you optimism that he can get it into the mid-30s.

Assuming he'll enroll and play next season, I'm left utterly perplexed. We're one scholarship over the limit next year and that's with Lawrence (our lone PG) not signed. McBride puts us two scholarships over the limit. I guess my assumptions are then: Lawrence will play elsewhere (bummer because everybody by this point knows my criticisms about us not recruiting true PGs), Havsa and Clark will graduate (I'm honestly not 100% they could come back because I don't know enough about the COVID rules), Ondigo isn't expected to be back, and maybe Lieppert becomes a PWO or WO? That would open up two spots for Lawrence and McBride. I guess if only one of those things happens then we'll be with McBride but not Lawrence.

No coach seeks commitments expecting transfers in college basketball. Just doesn't happen, unless of course somebody has told the coach they're not going to be back. So there has to be stuff in the works now, either with players on the roster or guys we've signed.

So Ondigo is gone gone? I must’ve missed that. Maybe we’re finally using the Rice investment for basketball players. Bloomgren has done a good job expanding the football roster. 1 or 2 extra guys for basketball would make a much bigger impact.

No clue if Ondigo is gone, was just hypothesizing. He feels like the most obvious subtraction at this point, unfortunately.

I have no clue how we could even use the Rice investment for basketball. Pera would basically have to find a recruit that could get into Rice on his own volition, promise him that if he gets accepted he has a spot on the team, and then hope he gets accepted. If Pera made any communication with admissions or the school I'm pretty sure it'd be some sort of program violation. In theory it could work. But I think you'd have trouble finding a kid (ideally one with offers from other good schools) who would prefer to go through that instead of just accepting a scholarship from a similar program.
My guess is that Clark and Havsa won’t be back and then at least 1 other player will transfer, and those would be your spots. No inside knowledge though.
(02-08-2021 07:55 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2021 07:38 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2021 07:06 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]Rice picks up a commitment from Cornell grad transfer Terrance McBride. He's a combo guard who averaged 12.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, and 3.2 apg on 48/32/77 splits. Cornell struggled in 19-20, so the numbers are probably inflated a bit. But he looks like a fine pickup nonetheless. Watched a few quick highlights of his last year at Cornell. Looks like he has a good handle and some shiftiness. Shot mechanics look pretty good, honestly. There's definitely been some inconsistency shooting it from 3, but his clean release gives you optimism that he can get it into the mid-30s.

Assuming he'll enroll and play next season, I'm left utterly perplexed. We're one scholarship over the limit next year and that's with Lawrence (our lone PG) not signed. McBride puts us two scholarships over the limit. I guess my assumptions are then: Lawrence will play elsewhere (bummer because everybody by this point knows my criticisms about us not recruiting true PGs), Havsa and Clark will graduate (I'm honestly not 100% they could come back because I don't know enough about the COVID rules), Ondigo isn't expected to be back, and maybe Lieppert becomes a PWO or WO? That would open up two spots for Lawrence and McBride. I guess if only one of those things happens then we'll be with McBride but not Lawrence.

No coach seeks commitments expecting transfers in college basketball. Just doesn't happen, unless of course somebody has told the coach they're not going to be back. So there has to be stuff in the works now, either with players on the roster or guys we've signed.

So Ondigo is gone gone? I must’ve missed that. Maybe we’re finally using the Rice investment for basketball players. Bloomgren has done a good job expanding the football roster. 1 or 2 extra guys for basketball would make a much bigger impact.

No clue if Ondigo is gone, was just hypothesizing. He feels like the most obvious subtraction at this point, unfortunately.

I have no clue how we could even use the Rice investment for basketball. Pera would basically have to find a recruit that could get into Rice on his own volition, promise him that if he gets accepted he has a spot on the team, and then hope he gets accepted. If Pera made any communication with admissions or the school I'm pretty sure it'd be some sort of program violation. In theory it could work. But I think you'd have trouble finding a kid (ideally one with offers from other good schools) who would prefer to go through that instead of just accepting a scholarship from a similar program.

Yea that’s fair. I was thinking a PWO type recruit. Not sure if it works for grad school but some kids from the Ivys (or Stanford for a couple football guys) might value a free MBA and a chance to play 1 more year.
Hopefully we can make this a sticky thread again.

A couple new offers out for 2023 guys. Brady Dunlap, a 6-6 guard out of Harvard-Westlake. Only other offer is from Arkansas. Vincent Delano, a 6-1 guard out of Bella Vista College Prep in Arizona (Arizona is clearly a state that Pera is targeting heavily considering both of our 2022 commits are from there). Can't really find highlights of either guy. Dunlap is described as a sharpshooting wing, which probably shouldn't be surprising. Even though Delano is listed as a PG, everything I see about him says he's an off-ball guard. Again, not entirely surprising. Very rare for Pera to target a through and through ball handling guard.

No clue what our scholarship situation looks like. All looks like a jumbled mess. We know (I think) that Geron and McDowell will be on campus next year because they've signed letters of intent. Both are wings. I haven't seen anything since McBride committed that would indicate he wouldn't be here next year. He'd give us another ballhandler with experience. There's been absolutely no news on Lawrence since he committed, but he still has Rice stuff on his Twitter profile and he seems relatively active. I'd have thought he'd have removed mentions of Rice if he decommitted. Two more guards/wings are committed for 2022 in King and Mason leaving I think no more spots for 2022. 2023 should be the year that Olivari, Evee, Fiedler, and Abercrombie graduate. So we should have some spots open for that class.
It's that time of the year to start paying attention to the transfer portal (and this year's is already off to a rousing start). Relax, no Rice guys yet but we need to keep an eye on it for sure.

But there are already guys who might be candidates to transfer to Rice. One such guy is Greg Parham at VMI. He was a teammate of Travis Evee so they obviously know each other. Parham was 3rd in his conference in scoring this year (18 points a game) and 1st-team all-conference. He's graduating from VMI and said he's going to transfer to play one more year as a grad transfer. Here's an article on him from a few days ago before he announced he was going to play another year.

https://roanoke.com/sports/college/greg-...75dbb.html
I cannot fathom how we'd have a spot available. Parham is also absolutely a high-major guy. I can't imagine he'd make what's essentially a lateral move.

But I was going to post something because this has been a black Monday of sorts. Huge amount of guys starting to transfer, and the number is going to rise at a ridiculous pace. Seniors who have been loyal rightfully taking their additional year of eligibility to play a year in front of bigger crowds and possibly in the NCAA tournament. Seniors deciding to stay for another year of eligibility driving non-seniors into the transfer portal because of minutes constraints. It's going to be mayhem.

An interesting observation from a couple writers today was that the sheer number of expected low-major, mid-major transfers might actually force some of them to settle for lesser schools than they would have originally expected. A lot of those guys grab the 5-7 spots on a high-major team's roster, but with the expected number of transfers and some guys choosing to stay for an extra year, there might not be minutes for all of them. That might benefit the A-10 and American and MWC more than us, but if we do have a huge outflow of departures (always possible with Rice), there should be a decent pool of plug-and-play guys on the market.
Hearing from my Boston-area sources that we're after UMass transfer SG Carl Pierre. Coach Pera and Coach Glasser are both following him on Twitter so that squares.

https://umassathletics.com/sports/mens-b...erre/12057

He was teammates with Travis Evee in HS (one year older than him).

Given that we don't have a scholarship available right now, hope it doesn't mean that we are losing Quincy Olivari or Chris Mullins.
Along these lines:

Quentin Millora-Brown:

2018-2019 (Rice) 747 minutes played
5.9 rebounds per game
7.2 pointe per game

2020-2021 (OVandy) 255 minutes played
3.2 rebounds per game
3.1 points per game

I wonder what his attitude whether the transfer was a good move?
(03-17-2021 12:07 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing from my Boston-area sources that we're after UMass transfer SG Carl Pierre. Coach Pera and Coach Glasser are both following him on Twitter so that squares.

https://umassathletics.com/sports/mens-b...erre/12057

He was teammates with Travis Evee in HS (one year older than him).

Given that we don't have a scholarship available right now, hope it doesn't mean that we are losing Quincy Olivari or Chris Mullins.

I don't know why I remember this, but Pierre was also somebody we recruited out of HS. He is a very, very classic Pera guard. 6-4, team captain, prefers playing on the perimeter. He's taken more 3s every year, and his percentage has gone down every year, but I wouldn't be too worried about that. 10+ points per year in the A-10 for four straight years would play in CUSA.

But to your last point, he's not the only transfer we're looking at. Which is...worrying (or confusing, depending on how you look at it). I've posted about it above, but as it stands (with both Lawrence and McBride) we're at 14 scholarships. It's not that we don't have a scholarship, we're actually above the limit with rostered players and those we've "signed." To be able to roster any new transfer it'd mean either both are not enrolling, or other guys are transferring. Either way, it's not good.

On the flip side, this is as good a time as any to be in the market for transfers. Feels like 50 players a day are entering the transfer portal.
(03-17-2021 12:46 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-17-2021 12:07 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing from my Boston-area sources that we're after UMass transfer SG Carl Pierre. Coach Pera and Coach Glasser are both following him on Twitter so that squares.

https://umassathletics.com/sports/mens-b...erre/12057

He was teammates with Travis Evee in HS (one year older than him).

Given that we don't have a scholarship available right now, hope it doesn't mean that we are losing Quincy Olivari or Chris Mullins.

I don't know why I remember this, but Pierre was also somebody we recruited out of HS. He is a very, very classic Pera guard. 6-4, team captain, prefers playing on the perimeter. He's taken more 3s every year, and his percentage has gone down every year, but I wouldn't be too worried about that. 10+ points per year in the A-10 for four straight years would play in CUSA.

But to your last point, he's not the only transfer we're looking at. Which is...worrying (or confusing, depending on how you look at it). I've posted about it above, but as it stands (with both Lawrence and McBride) we're at 14 scholarships. It's not that we don't have a scholarship, we're actually above the limit with rostered players and those we've "signed." To be able to roster any new transfer it'd mean either both are not enrolling, or other guys are transferring. Either way, it's not good.

On the flip side, this is as good a time as any to be in the market for transfers. Feels like 50 players a day are entering the transfer portal.

I don't have any inside info but I could understand McBride backing out of his commitment to grad transfer here as the Ivy League is allowing grad students to play next season as a (supposedly) one time deal.
(03-17-2021 12:28 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]Along these lines:

Quentin Millora-Brown:

2018-2019 (Rice) 747 minutes played
5.9 rebounds per game
7.2 pointe per game

2020-2021 (OVandy) 255 minutes played
3.2 rebounds per game
3.1 points per game

I wonder what his attitude whether the transfer was a good move?

His drop in production isn't as dramatic as those numbers show because he averaged just 13.4 minutes/game at Vandy (played in 19, started 8) vs. 23.3 minutes/game at Rice (played in 32, started 28).

Divide his points and rebounds by his minutes played, and you get:

Rice points: 229/747 = 0.307 points/minute played
Vandy points: 58/255 - 0.227 points/minute played

Rice rebounds: 188/747 = 0.252 rebounds/minute played
Vandy rebounds: 60/255 = 0.235 rebounds/minute played.

The SB Nation "Anchor of Gold" assessment of Vandy's season included this about QMB:

Quote:Quentin Millora-Brown seemed to be on the Yanni Wetzell track of finally adjusting to the level of competition after nearly a year of playing. (Wetzell, of course, didn’t return for his senior season, but Millora-Brown should be back next season.)

(Wetzell is a Kiwi who played 2 years at DII St. Mary's in San Antonio, then one year for Vandy (0-18 in SEC play; coach was fired) and grad-transferred for another year at San Diego State.)
(03-17-2021 01:00 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-17-2021 12:28 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]Along these lines:

Quentin Millora-Brown:

2018-2019 (Rice) 747 minutes played
5.9 rebounds per game
7.2 pointe per game

2020-2021 (OVandy) 255 minutes played
3.2 rebounds per game
3.1 points per game

I wonder what his attitude whether the transfer was a good move?

His drop in production isn't as dramatic as those numbers show because he averaged just 13.4 minutes/game at Vandy (played in 19, started 8) vs. 23.3 minutes/game at Rice (played in 32, started 28).

Divide his points and rebounds by his minutes played, and you get:

Rice points: 229/747 = 0.307 points/minute played
Vandy points: 58/255 - 0.227 points/minute played

Rice rebounds: 188/747 = 0.252 rebounds/minute played
Vandy rebounds: 60/255 = 0.235 rebounds/minute played.

The SB Nation "Anchor of Gold" assessment of Vandy's season included this about QMB:

Quote:Quentin Millora-Brown seemed to be on the Yanni Wetzell track of finally adjusting to the level of competition after nearly a year of playing. (Wetzell, of course, didn’t return for his senior season, but Millora-Brown should be back next season.)

(Wetzell is a Kiwi who played 2 years at DII St. Mary's in San Antonio, then one year for Vandy (0-18 in SEC play; coach was fired) and grad-transferred for another year at San Diego State.)

Vanderbilt was 96th in Pomeroy, but 9-16 on the season.
(03-17-2021 01:00 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-17-2021 12:46 PM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-17-2021 12:07 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Hearing from my Boston-area sources that we're after UMass transfer SG Carl Pierre. Coach Pera and Coach Glasser are both following him on Twitter so that squares.

https://umassathletics.com/sports/mens-b...erre/12057

He was teammates with Travis Evee in HS (one year older than him).

Given that we don't have a scholarship available right now, hope it doesn't mean that we are losing Quincy Olivari or Chris Mullins.

I don't know why I remember this, but Pierre was also somebody we recruited out of HS. He is a very, very classic Pera guard. 6-4, team captain, prefers playing on the perimeter. He's taken more 3s every year, and his percentage has gone down every year, but I wouldn't be too worried about that. 10+ points per year in the A-10 for four straight years would play in CUSA.

But to your last point, he's not the only transfer we're looking at. Which is...worrying (or confusing, depending on how you look at it). I've posted about it above, but as it stands (with both Lawrence and McBride) we're at 14 scholarships. It's not that we don't have a scholarship, we're actually above the limit with rostered players and those we've "signed." To be able to roster any new transfer it'd mean either both are not enrolling, or other guys are transferring. Either way, it's not good.

On the flip side, this is as good a time as any to be in the market for transfers. Feels like 50 players a day are entering the transfer portal.

I don't have any inside info but I could understand McBride backing out of his commitment to grad transfer here as the Ivy League is allowing grad students to play next season as a (supposedly) one time deal.

Doing a bit more research, it sounds like seniors who decide to take advantage of their extra year of eligibility don't count against the scholarship cap. But I can't figure out whether that applies to the schools they transfer to, or only if they're returning to the school they played their senior year at. If it does apply for transfers, McBride wouldn't count against our cap meaning we'd be at the limit. I guess that would be true for any other senior transfer, including Pierre if we do target him. But if it doesn't apply to transfers, then we'd be one spot over.

Likewise, there have been rumblings that there's going to be either a permanent transfer waiver or a similar one to last year. This would allow students to transfer this year without sitting out. As many transfers as there have already been so far, this might open the flood gates in a month or two. Bunch of non-seniors will jump into the portal knowing they won't have to sit (whether this will be just for next year or permanent is another question that the NCAA is still figuring out).
Checked Verbal Commits and momentarily panicked when I saw a new name in our activity log, but it's just a new offer. 2022 PG Ben Shtolzberg (6-4) out of Sherman Oaks, California. Offers from Yale, Nebraska, Boston College, and Northwestern (among others). Very good looking shot. Despite his size, he does play with the ball in his hands. And he has a pretty good handle, even though I wouldn't describe him as shifty or quick. Looks to have good body control, which is how bigger guards make up for not being able to blow by defenders.

It's an audacious offer considering Shtolzberg says he has interest from the likes of Stanford, UNC, and Arizona.
A few other offers sent out tonight:

2022 CG Brian (BB) Knight. My thoughts after seeing two minutes of his highlights: I want him. Local kid who goes to school in Katy. Only one offer from Oral Roberts (that might as well be a giant stamp of approval given the play of Abmas and Obanor in the tournament). He's the kind of guy whose tape you watch and you immediately ask why he doesn't have more offers (it's possible he's been injured). 6-6 with NBA range. Looks like he has a good handle for his size, is decently athletic, and moves pretty fluidly. At worst you see him fitting in smoothly as a catch and shoot option. At best you can see the potential for a kid who's 6-7, can handle like a lead guard, and who's got range for days. I am admittedly awful at talent evaluation, and his lack of offers probably means something. But at least in my eyes, there's something there.

2022 SF Arop Arop. Out of Dallas, only other offer is from Howard. Long and lean might be an understatement. He is *very* skinny and *very* long. Like one of those guys whose arms don't quite look real. And, maybe even more so than Knight, it's obvious that this is a kid with absurd potential if properly developed. For his size and stature, he looks to have a more than serviceable handle. His shot mechanics look good. And you can't teach his body. I would not be at all surprised if he has a power conference offer soon.*

My summary: I would take either of these guys in a heartbeat.

* Oh boy, awful timing. He received an offer from Vanderbilt 5 minutes ago.

** Missed one. 2022 PF Robert Jennings. Out of DeSoto with offers from Houston and LSU, among others, and interest from Stanford. Physical four man who plays aggressively. Serviceable ability to shoot the deep ball. 247 projects him to eventually be a power-5 starter, for what it's worth. My lack of effusive praise is largely because there isn't much video I can find.
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