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I hope they don't forget about Nebraska 2. That one vote could make a difference.

(11-19-2020 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 12:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I listened to parts of it. There are 100K absentee ballots in Wisconsin that have no application. Those are illegal (that law has already been tested) and will need to be thrown out. Those were all from Milwaukee and Madison. With that information, all services should immediately un-call Wisconsin for Joe Biden.

Rudy laid the things out really well. The media needs to do their job and honestly report on this, as well as prepare the left for the fact that Trump could *legitimately* win the election. Trump has a path that doesnt require AZ or GA.

That sounds like the strongest piece of evidence so far. Mostly its unknown fraud. We don't know how many ballots they marked in that Biden Harris van.

The media has done such a terrible job that I thought a win in Wisconsin would only come from something being caught in the recount. Instead, its Wisconsin's law on absentee ballots. I had no idea that an absentee ballot in WI was illegal without an application, but it is. That vote can not count. It wasnt until last night during the WI conference call that a guy named "Bob" was throwing haymakers at his democratic counterparts, and where this began to get some light.

Based upon that, it seems WI is the first state that will be sent into Trumps column. This is an issue that has already been upheld by their court.

ANd this is why Trumps team only needed the two counties in their lawsuit. Thats where all the illegal absentee ballots were counted.

(11-19-2020 01:36 PM)banker Wrote: [ -> ]Just my 2 cents based on experience.

If you know you lost and want to cry about it, you whine around in the media for a few days, you call for Congress to investigate, you call for election reform, then you pack your bags and go home

What I am seeing is a team of people convinced that they didn’t lose and convinced they can prove it. You don’t go all in,’double down,’and hang your azz this far out to dry without some high level of confidence.

Does that mean it will happen? Who knows, it pretty corrupt system all in all.

You do know however, that trump has been begging for money during all this right?

So they could have a couple other motives here...getting money to pay off campaign debt...and sowing seeds of doubt in the process to undermine the incoming administration. And they've basically already admitted to the later.

Andy McCarthy basically just threw cold water on the entire presser. He said there isn't enough time to prove this in court before the election has to be certified, and although Rudy's examples are legit instances of fraud, you can't throw out hundreds of thousands of votes based on a proven few.

McCarthy said the more likely process would be to have these instances investigated and prosecuted, and laws changed to prevent this in the future. But with the Dems having the House, and the FBI stonewalling and hiding things for years, that's never happening.

(11-19-2020 01:37 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]Rudy is off his rocker, some of you are off your rocker for believing him. You're latching onto what you want to hear.

29 suits dismissed so far.

The only chance trump has is what he is trying to do in Detroit, execute a soft coup by having republicans refuse to certify the vote and use the state house to filp the electors.

Not going to matter.

1. Wayne County has already certified with the state, there is no legal recourse to uncertify it now.
2. The state board of canvassers has the final say on Wayne County regardless, if somehow it would get reverted back and become deadlocked at 2-2. And experts say the state board would never go against the voters.
3. The Michigan Senate Majority Leader has already said they won't be getting involved.

(11-19-2020 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]Andy McCarthy basically just threw cold water on the entire presser. He said there isn't enough time to prove this in court before the election has to be certified, and although Rudy's examples are legit instances of fraud, you can't throw out hundreds of thousands of votes based on a proven few.

Unless you stop the certification?

(11-19-2020 01:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:36 PM)banker Wrote: [ -> ]Just my 2 cents based on experience.

If you know you lost and want to cry about it, you whine around in the media for a few days, you call for Congress to investigate, you call for election reform, then you pack your bags and go home

What I am seeing is a team of people convinced that they didn’t lose and convinced they can prove it. You don’t go all in,’double down,’and hang your azz this far out to dry without some high level of confidence.

Does that mean it will happen? Who knows, it pretty corrupt system all in all.

You do know however, that trump has been begging for money during all this right?

So they could have a couple other motives here...getting money to pay off campaign debt...and sowing seeds of doubt in the process to undermine the incoming administration. And they've basically already admitted to the later.

How ironic, lol. What did the Dems do for 4 years? Spying, Russia Russia Russia, fake impeachment, etc.

(11-19-2020 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 12:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I listened to parts of it. There are 100K absentee ballots in Wisconsin that have no application. Those are illegal (that law has already been tested) and will need to be thrown out. Those were all from Milwaukee and Madison. With that information, all services should immediately un-call Wisconsin for Joe Biden.

Rudy laid the things out really well. The media needs to do their job and honestly report on this, as well as prepare the left for the fact that Trump could *legitimately* win the election. Trump has a path that doesnt require AZ or GA.

That sounds like the strongest piece of evidence so far. Mostly its unknown fraud. We don't know how many ballots they marked in that Biden Harris van.

What evidence? The word of rudy?

And I don't suppose you have a picture or a video of this Biden-Harris van unloading envelopes from the back of the van, opening them, and marking them for Biden right outside the counting office in broad daylight, right?

You can't possibly be that stupid.

(11-19-2020 01:50 PM)Claw Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]Andy McCarthy basically just threw cold water on the entire presser. He said there isn't enough time to prove this in court before the election has to be certified, and although Rudy's examples are legit instances of fraud, you can't throw out hundreds of thousands of votes based on a proven few.

Unless you stop the certification?

It's the same issue. You can't just show evidence of fraud. You have to tie it to specific ballots. That's impossible, once the ballots are removed from envelopes. All those ballots look legit now.

That's what I meant earlier about SCOTUS. They aren't about to invalidate an election unless there is solid proof to throw out the specific number of ballots needed to make a difference.

(11-19-2020 01:50 PM)Claw Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]Andy McCarthy basically just threw cold water on the entire presser. He said there isn't enough time to prove this in court before the election has to be certified, and although Rudy's examples are legit instances of fraud, you can't throw out hundreds of thousands of votes based on a proven few.

Unless you stop the certification?

Wisconsin has already certified. trump could not request the recount until they did!

(11-19-2020 01:42 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:36 PM)banker Wrote: [ -> ]Just my 2 cents based on experience.

If you know you lost and want to cry about it, you whine around in the media for a few days, you call for Congress to investigate, you call for election reform, then you pack your bags and go home

What I am seeing is a team of people convinced that they didn’t lose and convinced they can prove it. You don’t go all in,’double down,’and hang your azz this far out to dry without some high level of confidence.

Does that mean it will happen? Who knows, it pretty corrupt system all in all.

Then why did all the law firms withdraw representation?

You're also basing the "expected reaction" around career politicians who have been through dozens of elections. This is trumps second election, first that he has lost. And he's not good at listening to his people. So it's hard to judge his reaction vs. that of someone with political experience and say that is a sign of how strong their case is.

Well, there has been doxxing, threats, etc. against some attorneys working for Trump. That probably plays in to it. For some firms it will just be a business calculation. Is the good of representing Trump and winning more than the bad of representing Trump win or lose. It could be worse for those firms if they actually win. We all know how vindictive dems are.

(11-19-2020 01:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ][quote='TripleA' pid='17105086' dateline='1605810650']


For those who don't know, affadavits are evidence. Guilliani read some. They have hundreds in various states.

As you said, the problem is the time needed to weave through the legal process in each contested state. They all have different processes, even before you can file lawsuits.

Some courts even specify different ways to STAPLE documents when filing...I'm not kidding. Any of you ever ACTUALLY READ the RULES of even ONE COURT (which is different form the various statutes, by the way, which also need to be followed to prevail), let alone 100 different courts at different levels? I doubt many of you have, unless you are lawyers, and then it is likely you let your staff figure it out. Now for those who ARE lawyers, how many times have you filed documents with multiple errors (scrivener's or otherwise) then had to amend when pointed out or caught, and how many of those errors pass through to cases as adjudicated. the truth of that matter is much of American legal profession has become a worthless shame, so when something important like these cases actually comes along, lawyers are used to 'there's the law, AND THEN THERE'S THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE.' The BS that much of the legal profession has become in this country is an embarrassment separate from the present legal issues. These cases point to the BS way much fo the government system is run, and most people never suspect it, let alone get to even get a peek under the ugly covers. These cases expose a TON of problems in the legal profession that lawyers become so accustomed to they actually believe their ways are the LAW. It takes someone who won't back down to the lying BS, Like president trump, and lawyers who are trying to be good and faithful stewards, Like Giuliani and Powell, et al, to try to help change that and save the American Constitution for future generations.

(11-19-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 12:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I listened to parts of it. There are 100K absentee ballots in Wisconsin that have no application. Those are illegal (that law has already been tested) and will need to be thrown out. Those were all from Milwaukee and Madison. With that information, all services should immediately un-call Wisconsin for Joe Biden.

Rudy laid the things out really well. The media needs to do their job and honestly report on this, as well as prepare the left for the fact that Trump could *legitimately* win the election. Trump has a path that doesnt require AZ or GA.

That sounds like the strongest piece of evidence so far. Mostly its unknown fraud. We don't know how many ballots they marked in that Biden Harris van.

The media has done such a terrible job that I thought a win in Wisconsin would only come from something being caught in the recount. Instead, its Wisconsin's law on absentee ballots. I had no idea that an absentee ballot in WI was illegal without an application, but it is. That vote can not count. It wasnt until last night during the WI conference call that a guy named "Bob" was throwing haymakers at his democratic counterparts, and where this began to get some light.

Based upon that, it seems WI is the first state that will be sent into Trumps column. This is an issue that has already been upheld by their court.

ANd this is why Trumps team only needed the two counties in their lawsuit. Thats where all the illegal absentee ballots were counted.

And this is the way you have to slug it out against the MSM and the Swamp. President Trump is fighting far ALL Americans, make no mistake. He is fighting for the disenfranchised, in this case literally! ALL people who believe in Civil Rights should be behind President TRUMP 100%!

link again from the OP: The Evenhanded Truth

Over 220 affidavits so far! Sworn upon threat jail for perjury--no one would do this for Trump unless it was TRUE!

(11-19-2020 01:59 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 12:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I listened to parts of it. There are 100K absentee ballots in Wisconsin that have no application. Those are illegal (that law has already been tested) and will need to be thrown out. Those were all from Milwaukee and Madison. With that information, all services should immediately un-call Wisconsin for Joe Biden.

Rudy laid the things out really well. The media needs to do their job and honestly report on this, as well as prepare the left for the fact that Trump could *legitimately* win the election. Trump has a path that doesnt require AZ or GA.

That sounds like the strongest piece of evidence so far. Mostly its unknown fraud. We don't know how many ballots they marked in that Biden Harris van.

The media has done such a terrible job that I thought a win in Wisconsin would only come from something being caught in the recount. Instead, its Wisconsin's law on absentee ballots. I had no idea that an absentee ballot in WI was illegal without an application, but it is. That vote can not count. It wasnt until last night during the WI conference call that a guy named "Bob" was throwing haymakers at his democratic counterparts, and where this began to get some light.

Based upon that, it seems WI is the first state that will be sent into Trumps column. This is an issue that has already been upheld by their court.

ANd this is why Trumps team only needed the two counties in their lawsuit. Thats where all the illegal absentee ballots were counted.

And this is the way you have to slug it out against the MSM and the Swamp. President Trump is fighting far ALL Americans, make no mistake. He is fighting for the disenfranchised, in this case literally! ALL people who believe in Civil Rights should be behind President TRUMP 100%!

All Americans would include people he doesn't like, your comment is one of the biggest lies on this ******* board.

(11-19-2020 02:07 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:59 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2020 12:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]I listened to parts of it. There are 100K absentee ballots in Wisconsin that have no application. Those are illegal (that law has already been tested) and will need to be thrown out. Those were all from Milwaukee and Madison. With that information, all services should immediately un-call Wisconsin for Joe Biden.

Rudy laid the things out really well. The media needs to do their job and honestly report on this, as well as prepare the left for the fact that Trump could *legitimately* win the election. Trump has a path that doesnt require AZ or GA.

That sounds like the strongest piece of evidence so far. Mostly its unknown fraud. We don't know how many ballots they marked in that Biden Harris van.

The media has done such a terrible job that I thought a win in Wisconsin would only come from something being caught in the recount. Instead, its Wisconsin's law on absentee ballots. I had no idea that an absentee ballot in WI was illegal without an application, but it is. That vote can not count. It wasnt until last night during the WI conference call that a guy named "Bob" was throwing haymakers at his democratic counterparts, and where this began to get some light.

Based upon that, it seems WI is the first state that will be sent into Trumps column. This is an issue that has already been upheld by their court.

ANd this is why Trumps team only needed the two counties in their lawsuit. Thats where all the illegal absentee ballots were counted.

And this is the way you have to slug it out against the MSM and the Swamp. President Trump is fighting far ALL Americans, make no mistake. He is fighting for the disenfranchised, in this case literally! ALL people who believe in Civil Rights should be behind President TRUMP 100%!

All Americans would include people he doesn't like, your comment is one of the biggest lies on this ******* board.

So, we'll just all put down 'tennis2k4 as being against Civil Rights. That's your choice, We don't agree with you, but unlike you and your mob rule rioters, we defend your right to say it. Also unlike the Dems and the MSM who are afraid of the truth and people with opinions that differ from their party line. Got it.

Karl Rove is saying the charges that Rudy and Powell made are extremely serious, but that the legal team has been late, lacking proof, and losing so far in court.

(11-19-2020 12:36 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote: [ -> ]Where'd he do this conference?

Outside the Supreme Courtyard and Outdoor Furnishings Depot?

No, this one was held at the prestigious Ritz........Cracker Factory parking lot.

(11-19-2020 01:43 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Biden is illegitimate. Election stolen.

That was the Kraken.

Legit, illegitimate

Either way, the guy will be a disaster as POTUS. Only question is does he overtake Obama for the worst, finish 2nd ahead of Carter or 3rd behind him. Like I said, his policies will be disastrous for the country. I can only hope and pray they hurt his voters the most.

(11-19-2020 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]Andy McCarthy basically just threw cold water on the entire presser. He said there isn't enough time to prove this in court before the election has to be certified, and although Rudy's examples are legit instances of fraud, you can't throw out hundreds of thousands of votes based on a proven few.

McCarthy said the more likely process would be to have these instances investigated and prosecuted, and laws changed to prevent this in the future. But with the Dems having the House, and the FBI stonewalling and hiding things for years, that's never happening.

Which is what Ive been saying and its why committing fraud will always pay off in victory with few, if any repercussions. I mean--how much money, effort, and resources do you really think the recently elected officials (who benefit from directly the fraud) will be expending to root out and prosecute election fraud once everyone gets sworn in? If you guessed pretty much zero---you'd be correct.