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(11-17-2020 07:20 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: [ -> ]

Beat me to posting this. 04-cheers04-cheers04-cheers
"If the state board follows suit," Schiff, do you really think they will...follow suit? Remember that Soros has every Liberal in his pocket. You might as well ask the Ninth District court to rule on it. They will not follow suit.
Just local Republican leaders being obstinate and refusing to accept results which look perfectly legit.

2012 Wayne County - Romney 214K, Obama 595K votes
2016 - Trump 229, Clinton 519
2020 - Trump 264, Biden 587

What looks out of place? Nothing. You really think Detroit would vote big for Trump? Yes, Trump has made inroads there the last 2 election cycles but it's not as if vote totals are out of whack. Trump got 35K more votes from 2016 to 2020, and Biden improved Clinton's total by 68K. That's a lot I suppose but Wayne County has a population of 1.75 million people. We're talking about voting totals that are significantly lower than most other counties in 2020.

Just for comparison, Oakland County is the 2nd largest county in Michigan (about 1.26 million people). In 2016, it was 343 for Clinton and 289 for Trump. In 2020, it was 433 for Biden and 325 for Trump. Way bigger voter increase in the 4 years, and a much, much larger voter turnout percentage. Oakland County might raise a red flag in my eyes, but Wayne County seems well within the expected margins.
Not sure about the makeup of the State board. The legislature is controlled by Republicans. Kind of depends. Everything now is by party line.
The southern part of this lovely state is a dumpster fire.

Quote: The Detroit News observed: “In August, 72% of Detroit’s poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested.”
But, but, but... this is supposed to be over!
(11-17-2020 07:41 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Just local Republican leaders being obstinate and refusing to accept results which look perfectly legit.

2012 Wayne County - Romney 214K, Obama 595K votes
2016 - Trump 229, Clinton 519
2020 - Trump 264, Biden 587

What looks out of place? Nothing. You really think Detroit would vote big for Trump? Yes, Trump has made inroads there the last 2 election cycles but it's not as if vote totals are out of whack. Trump got 35K more votes from 2016 to 2020, and Biden improved Clinton's total by 68K. That's a lot I suppose but Wayne County has a population of 1.75 million people. We're talking about voting totals that are significantly lower than most other counties in 2020.

Just for comparison, Oakland County is the 2nd largest county in Michigan (about 1.26 million people). In 2016, it was 343 for Clinton and 289 for Trump. In 2020, it was 433 for Biden and 325 for Trump. Way bigger voter increase in the 4 years, and a much, much larger voter turnout percentage. Oakland County might raise a red flag in my eyes, but Wayne County seems well within the expected margins.

I'm curious how many "local Republican" leaders there are since 21 of 22 elected leaders in Wayne County are Democrats from County Executive to County Commission to Sheriff to Clerk, etc. The lone Republican is one commissioner out of 15 county commissioners.
So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yes, because Twitter doesn’t censor 40% of his tweets right?!?


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(11-17-2020 08:09 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 07:41 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Just local Republican leaders being obstinate and refusing to accept results which look perfectly legit.

2012 Wayne County - Romney 214K, Obama 595K votes
2016 - Trump 229, Clinton 519
2020 - Trump 264, Biden 587

What looks out of place? Nothing. You really think Detroit would vote big for Trump? Yes, Trump has made inroads there the last 2 election cycles but it's not as if vote totals are out of whack. Trump got 35K more votes from 2016 to 2020, and Biden improved Clinton's total by 68K. That's a lot I suppose but Wayne County has a population of 1.75 million people. We're talking about voting totals that are significantly lower than most other counties in 2020.

Just for comparison, Oakland County is the 2nd largest county in Michigan (about 1.26 million people). In 2016, it was 343 for Clinton and 289 for Trump. In 2020, it was 433 for Biden and 325 for Trump. Way bigger voter increase in the 4 years, and a much, much larger voter turnout percentage. Oakland County might raise a red flag in my eyes, but Wayne County seems well within the expected margins.

I'm curious how many "local Republican" leaders there are since 21 of 22 elected leaders in Wayne County are Democrats from County Executive to County Commission to Sheriff to Clerk, etc. The lone Republican is one commissioner out of 15 county commissioners.

There are 4 members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers - 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats. They voted 2-2 - a deadlock strictly along party lines.
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

lol...oh stop sniveling. Frankly, I just want them to verify signatures---especially on ballots that just have select Biden--but cast no votes in down ballot races. Those are suspicious as hell. If it all checks out---then declare Biden the winner and lets move on. I dont see signatures verification as unreasonable. Just watched an interview with a guy that performed an experiment where he sent 10 signatures through the verification process in Nevada by 10 different people claiming to be him. Nine of the ten were accepted---and not one of them was his. I suspect most states arent much better.
(11-17-2020 08:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]The southern part of this lovely state is a dumpster fire.

Quote: The Detroit News observed: “In August, 72% of Detroit’s poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested.”

04-jawdrop
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

NO!!! That started on election night when the voting machines and the count suddenly stopped in several swing states with Trump leading substantially in all of them.

(11-17-2020 09:12 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: [ -> ]So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

NO!!! That started on election night when the voting machines and the count suddenly stopped in several swing states with Trump leading substantially in all of them.

So what you are saying is they should stop counting when your guy is ahead? What about AZ where trump was catching up at the end based on mail in ballots, did you want them to stop counting there too? I can’t remember since there were trump supports chanting “stop the count” and “keep counting” in different states.

Everyone knew mail in ballots in most states would be heavy for Biden after trump spent months discouraging his supporters from using mail in ballots and the demographics of believing that there is a pandemic.
(11-17-2020 07:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]but....we.....were.....told.....it....was.........ovah

It.....is........ovah
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