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This just keeps getting more comical with each passing day...or maybe just more sad. Hard to say really.

(12-28-2020 12:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]This just keeps getting more comical with each passing day...or maybe just more sad. Hard to say really.

are we in Harry 'Carey' Reid land once again...

(12-28-2020 12:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-28-2020 12:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]This just keeps getting more comical with each passing day...or maybe just more sad. Hard to say really.

are we in Harry 'Carey' Reid land once again...

that old constitution thing just keeps giving the prog filth fits.

Muh Constitution....

Quote:Other than to succeed to the presidency upon the death or resignation of a president, a vice president's only constitutional duty is to preside over the Senate. Vice presidents cannot vote in the Senate, except to break a tie, nor may they formally address the Senate, except with the senators' permission. Initially vice presidents appointed senators to standing committees, regulated access to the galleries and supervised the keeping of the Senate Journal, but these duties were later removed.

https://www.senate.gov/general/Features/Part_1_VP.htm

Quote:The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted.

https://www.senate.gov/civics/constituti...tm#a1_sec3

For some reason Maricopa County’s Board of Supervisors would rather go to jail than hand over voting machines and ballots in their county to the Arizona Senate for purposes of performing a forensic audit of machines and ballots from the 2020 election.


Arizona Senate to Consider Contempt Charge in Election Fight

Quote: Republicans who control the Arizona Senate are moving ahead with their threat to pass a contempt resolution finding Maricopa County has failed to comply with a subpoena demanding access to elections equipment and ballots cast in the November election…

…The Republican-dominated board on Tuesday again refused to comply with subpoenas GOP lawmakers issued as they try to show that fraud or other election misdeeds led to Democratic President Joe Biden’s win in the state. Courts rejected eight lawsuits filed by backers of former President Donald Trump after his loss, finding there was no evidence that he did not lose.

The Senate has demanded access to voting machines and all 2.1 million ballots cast in the election. The board has said it can’t comply because ballots are sealed by law and the voting machines the Senate wants to examine need to remain secure.

Arizona Central reported yesterday that the Senate did meet:
Arizona Senate considers contempt finding against Maricopa County supervisors over election audit

Quote: Republicans in the Arizona Senate have escalated their ongoing fight with the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors over the 2020 election.

On Wednesday, they introduced a resolution to hold the board’s members in contempt for not turning over — or at least providing access to — ballots along with other records. It’s not clear exactly what a contempt finding against the supervisors would result in, though the resolution appears to allow for their arrest.

Republican lawmakers are intent on conducting their own audit of the county’s election results after Democrat Joe Biden won the county and state. They have issued subpoenas for ballots, voting equipment and moreover the past two months…

…It would be the first time in decades — if ever — that the Senate has held anyone in contempt.

Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, said the chamber may vote on the measure on Monday if an agreement with the county is not reached. The Senate could then go back to court or ask the attorney general to prosecute. Disobeying a legislative subpoena is a class 2 misdemeanor.

Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

(02-04-2021 12:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

It is still not less than rioting and looting - at least in Portland and Washington State.

(02-04-2021 12:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

Not if you actually read what the county officials said. They think it violates the law for them to turn over voter ballots to the state.

Not to mention, they're already wasting taxpayer money to conduct two audits just to appease the orange cult that is too afraid of trump and unwilling to accept the results that they lost fair and square.

It's really quite sad.

(02-04-2021 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 12:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

Not if you actually read what the county officials said. They think it violates the law for them to turn over voter ballots to the state.

Not to mention, they're already wasting taxpayer money to conduct two audits just to appease the orange cult that is too afraid of trump and unwilling to accept the results that they lost fair and square.

It's really quite sad.

Well, someone of somebody has to have both Standing and Jurisdiction over these ballots, with the authority to see them and review them properly. Tired of that question being avoided, as it's pretty relevant. Guess this will help resolve that, which is important for this and future elections. the only thing sad is ignorant folks who don't want those important questions answered. But then, you knew that already, huh, Sparky? Oh, wait:

(02-04-2021 01:47 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 12:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

Not if you actually read what the county officials said. They think it violates the law for them to turn over voter ballots to the state.

Not to mention, they're already wasting taxpayer money to conduct two audits just to appease the orange cult that is too afraid of trump and unwilling to accept the results that they lost fair and square.

It's really quite sad.

Well, someone of somebody has to have both Standing and Jurisdiction over these ballots, with the authority to see them and review them properly. Tired of that question being avoided, as it's pretty relevant. Guess this will help resolve that, which is important for this and future elections. the only thing sad is ignorant folks who don't want those important questions answered. But then, you knew that already, huh, Sparky?

You don't need them answered again, skippy. They've done canvasses, audits, and machine and hand recounts all over the place. They've found nothing. No amount of this is going to appease you clowns who just can't accept the fact that trump was a ****** president and people wanted him gone so they voted for an old man way past his expiration date. It's supposed to taste like a **** taco just as it did for the left when trump won.

I have never in my lifetime seen a national election that went off as well as this one did...and even with an unprecedented number of voters. Outside of Antrim County and a couple other places there was basically not one problem. No reports of people being turned away...not being able to find a precinct...precincts moved unexpectedly, people threating voters in line...none of that which we usually hear about every election.

(02-04-2021 02:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 01:47 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2021 12:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they think the sentence for refusing to comply with the the subpoena will be less than the sentence for rampant cheating.

Not if you actually read what the county officials said. They think it violates the law for them to turn over voter ballots to the state.

Not to mention, they're already wasting taxpayer money to conduct two audits just to appease the orange cult that is too afraid of trump and unwilling to accept the results that they lost fair and square.

It's really quite sad.

Well, someone of somebody has to have both Standing and Jurisdiction over these ballots, with the authority to see them and review them properly. Tired of that question being avoided, as it's pretty relevant. Guess this will help resolve that, which is important for this and future elections. the only thing sad is ignorant folks who don't want those important questions answered. But then, you knew that already, huh, Sparky?

You don't need them answered again, skippy. They've done canvasses, audits, and machine and hand recounts all over the place. They've found nothing. No amount of this is going to appease you clowns who just can't accept the fact that trump was a ****** president and people wanted him gone so they voted for an old man way past his expiration date. It's supposed to taste like a **** taco just as it did for the left when trump won.

I have never in my lifetime seen a national election that went off as well as this one did...and even with an unprecedented number of voters. Outside of Antrim County and a couple other places there was basically not one problem. No reports of people being turned away...not being able to find a precinct...precincts moved unexpectedly, people threating voters in line...none of that which we usually hear about every election.

Easy there, Comrade--you're gonna lose your apartment. Don' go threating me!

I love it when Leftists bring up "wasting taxpayers' money". That means they're out of bullets. The national election went so smoothly NY 22 still doesn't have a declared winner 3 months later, and now the Attorney that started the Russian collusion scam says the voting machines changed votes. Can't make it up.

(02-04-2021 03:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]I love it when Leftists bring up "wasting taxpayers' money". That means they're out of bullets. The national election went so smoothly NY 22 still doesn't have a declared winner 3 months later, and now the Attorney that started the Russian collusion scam says the voting machines changed votes. Can't make it up.

So, one district with an issue is proof of a horrific national election?

Talk about an empty chamber, my God!

BREAKING NOW!: GA Judge Gives Conditional Access To Audit Fulton County Ballots

From this morning's PUBLIC HEARING ON MOTION TO COMPEL FULTON BALLOT INSPECTION:

Monday March 15, 2021, 9:00am

*** GREAT news!!!...Judge Amero just ordered a "conditional grant" of the motion to unseal the Fulton County ballots.

The only stipulation is the petitioners have to come up with a written plan (agreed to by the respondants) as to exactly how they will do the scanning, length of time, costs, manner and method, privacy protection issues addressed, names of all individuals involved, etc., etc.

Petitioners written plan is due to court on March 24, 2021.
Respondants response to plan due to court on April 5, 2021.
Court hearing on plan on April 13, 2021.
*** SCANNING OF BALLOTS TO START APRIL 26, 2021.

THE 2020 Election is NOT over! The Fraud can still be exposed.

Slowly..but surely! The Rainbow umbrella begins to fold up!

A GA judge has given conditional approval for inspection of ballots in Fulton County from the Nov 3rd general election in a hearing this morning, pending the appointment of a ‘special master’ to oversee the process.

The hearing was delayed for an hour due to a ‘Webex glitch’.

Another hearing on the matter has been scheduled for April. The approval was given over the objections of attorneys from Fulton County, where massive election fraud was executed in November, much of it caught on video.

Plaintiffs argued that tens of thousands of the Fulton County ballots counted in November were counterfeit.


UPDATE – Observations from a legal mind – the judge today added terms to increase contention and disputes, to let sides work out details and not agree on little things, so they have to come back in court. Judge wanted a specific judge as ‘special master’. Bonnefor, (sp?) who is not available for 45 days, for no reason; he had 6 names from hearing participants. Attorney Ringer (Fulton County) objected to content of election fraud affidavits being disclosed, doesn’t want any of story to come out. Judge wanted operation plan, an obvious delay tactic, 7 biz days for each side and is slow walking. He also essentially imposed a gag order- findings will be released in a confidential way, only to parties of lawsuit, mentioned doesn’t want any disinformation to be released — we call that a gag order!


In case you forgot: Hearing on Open Records Request for Fulton County Mail-In Ballots, January 15, 2021

Dude, the presidential election is over. It has been certified by congress. Nothing that happens in Georgia is going to change that now.

Biden won, admit it and get over it.

Republicans need to forget 2020 and start focusing laser-like on 2022 and 2024. 2020 was lost last summer when even the ineffective controls over voter fraud that existed in many jurisdictions were thrown out the window. Once again it was a case of republicans not taking elections--specifically, winning elections--as seriously as democrats.

When republicans take elections seriously--see 1994--they win. When they don't they lose.

(03-15-2021 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, the presidential election is over. It has been certified by congress. Nothing that happens in Georgia is going to change that now.

Biden won, admit it and get over it.

Not that I think this is going to happen, but, for the sake of discussion, let's assume proven voting irregularities come to light in both Georgia and Arizona. Proven to the extent arrests are made and people are convicted. Really proven.

What is the remedy for that? How far up the party's chain of command could it go before Biden and Harris both are forced out?

I really don't know, but it is an interesting question.

Given the Democratic control in place, I'd wager they refuse to do anything. That might be the reason the National Guard is still there...

It's not a matter of catching anyone. It's just making sure the process works

(03-15-2021 06:01 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a matter of catching anyone. It's just making sure the process works

I couldn't disagree more. We need to find and arrest people who have violated the election laws. Convict them. Fine them. And JAIL THEM.

That is the best way to insure this stuff doesn't happen.