(11-10-2020 03:25 PM)oruvoice Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Don’t really have to win if you can get it close...then you just have to be able to get enough of the double votes, dead people’s mail in votes, and non-resident votes chucked.
A recount in AZ could be interesting.
What I find interesting is why some people think the only votes that will get 'chucked' upon inspection are democrats.
I thought the logic was that if late ballots come in and change the election it was cheating?
Get rid of ALL nonlegit ballots. This is about more than just THIS election.
They do. WTF do you think these local poll workers/counters do at the over 3,000 counties across America? These folks are republicans and democrats working together. You think they just run amok doing whatever the **** they want?
I'd like to see a stat on that. My guess is that 70%-80% are dems.
Just think man...think about that map of counties that vote republican across America...the blue areas are only in big cities mostly which represent just a few counties by comparison.
Regardless, all counties normally have bi-partisan canvas boards with equal party representation which certify votes.
(11-10-2020 03:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 03:25 PM)oruvoice Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]What I find interesting is why some people think the only votes that will get 'chucked' upon inspection are democrats.
I thought the logic was that if late ballots come in and change the election it was cheating?
Get rid of ALL nonlegit ballots. This is about more than just THIS election.
They do. WTF do you think these local poll workers/counters do at the over 3,000 counties across America? These folks are republicans and democrats working together. You think they just run amok doing whatever the **** they want?
I'd like to see a stat on that. My guess is that 70%-80% are dems.
Just think man...think about that map of counties that vote republican across America...the blue areas are only in big cities mostly which represent just a few counties by comparison.
Regardless, all counties normally have bi-partisan canvas boards with equal party representation which certify votes.
Just my perception. I didn't make a definitive statement. Just wondered if there are any stats on it. There are certain jobs that lend themselves to a certain demographic.
(11-10-2020 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 03:00 PM)gdunn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:26 PM)gdunn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 02:05 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]Trump would have to win the remaining non provisional ballots at almost a 90% clip. Biden won AZ.
Trump winning 90% is impossible but Biden winning 100% in several states is believable? Please.
Link?
Referencing a quote on one of the shows that there were thousands of mail in ballots and they all went Biden and not a one for Trump. I'll see if I can locate it.
Save your time, it's bull****. If anything, it's a mere timing issue. They check these things at each county with by-partisan canvassing boards.
Found the exact quote.. I misspoke..
It was in reference to several thousand ballots that only voted for the President and nothing down ballot.
This news makes me.... Not mad.
(11-10-2020 04:47 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 04:45 PM)Curumim Wrote: [ -> ]We'll miss you, Nancy!
Yes!
I believe something around 15 democrats voted against her last time. It's possible they kick her out, but you never know.
Edit: If you look, NewsMax published the news on november 8th.
(11-10-2020 04:55 PM)Curumim Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 04:47 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ] (11-10-2020 04:45 PM)Curumim Wrote: [ -> ]We'll miss you, Nancy!
Yes!
I believe something around 15 democrats voted against her last time. It's possible they kick her out, but you never know.
She is projected to have around a 5 to 7 seat majority including her own vote for herself.
I dont think she will have enough as there is already the VA and NM congresswomen speaking out publicly against her.
There is a healthy faction of democrats out there who are POd about all this socialism, defund the police, and pack the court talk.
Even if Biden is inaugurated as expected, he is already a lame duck in the area of liberal dreamlist.
https://www.newsweek.com/kevin-mccarthy-...on-1546028
This is what I have been pitching.
There is still a double digit blue dog democrat faction out there. Work with them and end the Pelosi era
Quote:When she went up for that vote two years ago, there were 15 Democrats who voted against her. Ten of those Democrats will be coming back to Congress.
She's done now, or she's done when the GOP takes the house back in 2022. If you read Kevin McCarthy's quotes in that article, look at the numbers he is giving, and see that Trump lost, voter fraud is the only explanation. GOP lost 0 house incumbents, picked up house seats, retained the senate, won control over 3 new state leg's and we're supposed to believe that Trump losing is legit??? Maybe he did, but the future is very bright for the Republicans if they continue to follow the Trump model.
(11-10-2020 05:22 PM)Curumim Wrote: [ -> ]
Undermining your boss rarely works as a career strategy. I have little sympathy for them. These are the same people that spent billions on Navy ships that cant sink other ships, bought aircraft carriers that cant launch planes, and allowed other nations to get ahead of us on missile technology. New blood at the top is a positive--not a negative. What we may be seeing is some good ole fashion swamp cleaning. Your welcome Sloe Joe.
(11-10-2020 04:53 PM)Bearcat419 Wrote: [ -> ]This news makes me.... Not mad.
Yeah, I'm okay with a change at SOTH.
No offense to the octogenarians of the board, but it would be nice to have someone younger at the helm.
Interesting news on the fraud claims :
Viral posts circulating Facebook claimed more people had cast ballots in Wisconsin than there are registered voters, but was debunked by fact checkers as incorrectly reporting the number of registered voters in the state.
A conspiracy theory dubbed Sharpiegate that trended online said officials in Arizona’s Maricopa County were giving Trump supporters Sharpies to fill in their ballots so they wouldn’t be counted, but was debunked by officials who clarified sharpies are accepted by vote center tabulators and provided to everyone in the county.
A viral video, shared by Eric Trump, showed over 80 ballots for Trump being set aflame, but was debunked by Virginia Beach city officials who said they were not official ballots.
A viral video purported to show suspicious activity in a vote-counting center in Detroit, Michigan, but was debunked by local news station WXYZ Detroit which said it was a photographer loading his camera into a wagon.
A voter in Clark County, Nevada, said a mail-in ballot she never received was returned and accepted so she could not vote in-person, but was debunked by Clark County Registrar of Voters Joe Gloria who said her signature matched the one on the mail-in ballot.
A video purported to show vote counters in Pennsylvania fraudulently filling out blank ballots, but was debunked by Delaware County’s public relations director who said the counters were fixing damaged ballots.
A graphic shared on social media suggested Michigan had counted thousands of fraudulent voter registrations, including some from dead people, but was debunked by Politifact which sourced these false claims to a lawsuit filed months before election day seeking to maintain more accurate voter roles (it did not allege dead people’s ballots could be used to commit voter fraud).
A tweet embedded in a Daily Wire article said four people under the age of 18 had voted by mail in Nevada, but was debunked by the voter registrar’s office which clarified no votes were cast by anyone underage.
A QAnon conspiracy claims that many Democratic votes are fraudulent because their ballots lack a secret watermark produced by the Department of Homeland Security, but was debunked by fact checkers who point out that the DHS is not involved in making ballots.
An exposé from Project Veritas, an investigative outlet run by right-wing activist James O’Keefe, claimed a whistleblower had been told by U.S. Postal Service higher-ups to backdate late ballots so they would still count, but was debunked by local and state officials who said ballots received after Election Day would not be counted.
TANGENT
Trump and his allies also continue to claim that election officials in Michigan tried to ban Republican poll watchers. There is zero evidence of this.
KEY BACKGROUND
Since the early hours of Wednesday, when Trump falsely declared victory in the election, his campaign has put its energy into vindicating this alleged fraud, filing lawsuits in several swing states which have mostly been batted away by judges. “Come on now,” said Michigan Judge Cynthia Stephens on Thursday afternoon as she denied a lawsuit she described as backed by “hearsay evidence.” Twitter and Facebook have flagged much of what Trump has been posting as misinformation and even Trump’s allies have been notably hesitant in supporting his crusade.
CRUCIAL QUOTE
“IF YOU COUNT THE LEGAL VOTES, I EASILY WIN THE ELECTION! IF YOU COUNT THE ILLEGAL AND LATE VOTES, THEY CAN STEAL THE ELECTION FROM US,” the president said in an official statement on Thursday. The president previously demanded on Twitter that election officials “STOP THE COUNT.”
CHIEF CRITIC
“There are suspicious partisans across the spectrum who believe widespread election fraud is possible,” wrote former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove in the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday. “Some hanky-panky always goes on, and there are already reports of poll watchers in Philadelphia not being allowed to do their jobs. But stealing hundreds of thousands of votes would require a conspiracy on the scale of a James Bond movie. That isn’t going to happen
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...should-win
This is the lawsuit that I have said all along had legs...
because if the US Scotus allows the willful usurping of the PA Legislature's role as sole rule makers for elections, a power granted only to a State's Legislative Body by the Constitution, it would create precedence and empower other facets of government in other states to usurp the same power. 10 states have filed an amicus brief supporting the suit by the Trump Reelection team.
"On Monday, ten states -- Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas -- filed an amicus brief upholding the importance of the constitutional rights of state legislatures. "The Pennsylvania supreme court's decision overstepped its constitutional responsibility, encroached on the authority of the Pennsylvania legislature, and violated the plain language of the [Constitution's] Election Clauses," the states, which are all governed by Republicans, wrote."
(11-10-2020 05:51 PM)bostonbronco Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting news on the fraud claims :
Viral posts circulating Facebook claimed more people had cast ballots in Wisconsin than there are registered voters, but was debunked by fact checkers as incorrectly reporting the number of registered voters in the state.
A conspiracy theory dubbed Sharpiegate that trended online said officials in Arizona’s Maricopa County were giving Trump supporters Sharpies to fill in their ballots so they wouldn’t be counted, but was debunked by officials who clarified sharpies are accepted by vote center tabulators and provided to everyone in the county.
A viral video, shared by Eric Trump, showed over 80 ballots for Trump being set aflame, but was debunked by Virginia Beach city officials who said they were not official ballots.
A viral video purported to show suspicious activity in a vote-counting center in Detroit, Michigan, but was debunked by local news station WXYZ Detroit which said it was a photographer loading his camera into a wagon.
A voter in Clark County, Nevada, said a mail-in ballot she never received was returned and accepted so she could not vote in-person, but was debunked by Clark County Registrar of Voters Joe Gloria who said her signature matched the one on the mail-in ballot.
A video purported to show vote counters in Pennsylvania fraudulently filling out blank ballots, but was debunked by Delaware County’s public relations director who said the counters were fixing damaged ballots.
A graphic shared on social media suggested Michigan had counted thousands of fraudulent voter registrations, including some from dead people, but was debunked by Politifact which sourced these false claims to a lawsuit filed months before election day seeking to maintain more accurate voter roles (it did not allege dead people’s ballots could be used to commit voter fraud).
A tweet embedded in a Daily Wire article said four people under the age of 18 had voted by mail in Nevada, but was debunked by the voter registrar’s office which clarified no votes were cast by anyone underage.
A QAnon conspiracy claims that many Democratic votes are fraudulent because their ballots lack a secret watermark produced by the Department of Homeland Security, but was debunked by fact checkers who point out that the DHS is not involved in making ballots.
An exposé from Project Veritas, an investigative outlet run by right-wing activist James O’Keefe, claimed a whistleblower had been told by U.S. Postal Service higher-ups to backdate late ballots so they would still count, but was debunked by local and state officials who said ballots received after Election Day would not be counted.
TANGENT
Trump and his allies also continue to claim that election officials in Michigan tried to ban Republican poll watchers. There is zero evidence of this.
KEY BACKGROUND
Since the early hours of Wednesday, when Trump falsely declared victory in the election, his campaign has put its energy into vindicating this alleged fraud, filing lawsuits in several swing states which have mostly been batted away by judges. “Come on now,” said Michigan Judge Cynthia Stephens on Thursday afternoon as she denied a lawsuit she described as backed by “hearsay evidence.” Twitter and Facebook have flagged much of what Trump has been posting as misinformation and even Trump’s allies have been notably hesitant in supporting his crusade.
CRUCIAL QUOTE
“IF YOU COUNT THE LEGAL VOTES, I EASILY WIN THE ELECTION! IF YOU COUNT THE ILLEGAL AND LATE VOTES, THEY CAN STEAL THE ELECTION FROM US,” the president said in an official statement on Thursday. The president previously demanded on Twitter that election officials “STOP THE COUNT.”
CHIEF CRITIC
“There are suspicious partisans across the spectrum who believe widespread election fraud is possible,” wrote former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove in the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday. “Some hanky-panky always goes on, and there are already reports of poll watchers in Philadelphia not being allowed to do their jobs. But stealing hundreds of thousands of votes would require a conspiracy on the scale of a James Bond movie. That isn’t going to happen
People are lying to you. Some of the stuff you claimed to be debunked is you believing a lie. Not opining on many of those claims of fraud, but the poll watcher thing is totally true.
As for the scale, look at the Atlanta Public School cheating scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Pu...80%932015.