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(10-27-2020 07:04 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

This is exactly what we as UC supporters want: people around the nation talking about the Bearcats. To his credit, I think Coach Fickell plays it really cool. But you know he's got to be loving the national attention he's receiving after investing years of hard work in program building. And for his blue chip recruits who believed in the dream, he's fulfilling the promise that they could achieve more at #7 Cincy than at any number of P5 programs where there is most often little hope of rankings or a postseaon.

It’s the Fickell Effect.

He gives us credibility with a lot of national journalists, who were already in his camp from his OSU days (see Pete Thamel, Bill Bender, Bill Conelly, etc).

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

(10-27-2020 09:12 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

I wouldn't hate if the Bengals nabbed him and UC hired Freeman in his place.

(10-27-2020 09:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

Image with the increased recruiting bump a membership in a P5 would bring.

(10-27-2020 09:21 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:12 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

I wouldn't hate if the Bengals nabbed him and UC hired Freeman in his place.

Bearcats HC is a better job. Who in their right mind would work for the Brown family?

(10-27-2020 09:25 AM)RuckleSt Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:21 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:12 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

I wouldn't hate if the Bengals nabbed him and UC hired Freeman in his place.

Bearcats HC is a better job. Who in their right mind would work for the Brown family?

Yeah, the dude could hop on a ship with Magellan and go sailing with the leash he's built at UC...no way would he move to the Bengals.

(10-27-2020 09:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

Great statistic on top 17 states. It seems like a no brainer for the ACC to now plant the flag in Ohio's recruiting hotbed with a high profile UC and re-kindle terrific Ohio River rivalries with Louisville and Pitt.

(10-27-2020 09:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

And those coaches didn't have the recruiting chops our current coaches have.

(10-27-2020 10:45 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

And those coaches didn't have the recruiting chops our current coaches have.

Ironically, this why some schools fight like heck to keep us out.

(10-27-2020 09:31 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:25 AM)RuckleSt Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:21 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:12 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

I wouldn't hate if the Bengals nabbed him and UC hired Freeman in his place.

Bearcats HC is a better job. Who in their right mind would work for the Brown family?

Yeah, the dude could hop on a ship with Magellan and go sailing with the leash he's built at UC...no way would he move to the Bengals.

Fickell would be given a long leash with the Bengals, just because they're the Bengals. The Brown family is many things. But they're not known for giving a short leash.


Dave Shula was 11-37 after 3 years. They gave him a 4th season.

After 4th straight losing season (7-9), they gave Shula a 5th season.

Bruce Coslet was 21-36 in 4 years, including 4-12 in his 4th season. They gave him a 5th season.

Marvin Lewis was 46-49 in his first 6 seasons, including 4-11 in his 6th season. They gave him a 7th season.

Lewis never won a playoff game and had a .518 winning percentage. They kept him for 16 seasons.

(10-27-2020 10:32 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 08:35 AM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:52 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote: [ -> ]The hype is real. Listened to the Ryen Rusillo pod and he is generally dismissive of g5 teams but said that Cincy is a really good team. Bruce Feldman was his guest and they ran through a scenario asking where would Cincy rank in the b10 West.

And? Don’t leave us hanging like that :) Where did they rank us in the B10 West?

No official determination as the discussion veered towards how good is Wisky, whom they think are the best in the b10 west. it was more the fact that the question was being posed, specifically, Bruce Feldman asked the following: If Cincinnati was in the b10 west would they win it? Rusillo didn't offer a conclusion but said it was down to Wisky and Cincy.

One of the interesting things about the discussion was that Rusillo noted that if Cincy were part of a "big boy" conference ppl would be talking about Cincy differently. That obscures the fact that if Cincy was in a "big boy" conference, with a "big boy" budget and able to recruit under a "big boy" conference label, we would smoke 2/3rds of the "big boy" teams out there and would probably be regarded as a top 15-20 program nationally.

Goes to show you what a unique and incredible situation Ohio State has had. Only one of the Top 17 states by population (excluding New Jersey, where no one wants to stay any longer than they legally have to) to only have one P5 team in it....definitely helps to win every big time recruit with very little in state competition.

Many people who understand the dynamics know how good Cincinnati could be VERY quickly in a Big Boy conference...they proved it in the Big East.

Great statistic on top 17 states. It seems like a no brainer for the ACC to now plant the flag in Ohio's recruiting hotbed with a high profile UC and re-kindle terrific Ohio River rivalries with Louisville and Pitt.

ironically, they reference Louisville as a comp. They obviously forgot that at one point Cincy and Louisville were conference mates in the B.East.

(10-27-2020 09:25 AM)RuckleSt Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:21 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2020 09:12 AM)Cat-Man Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to take away or distract from this season (by starting a dedicated thread), so I will bury this here. But we all knew this talk would start back up sooner than later. CLF may have some suitors this off season, but I think the NFL may be a stretch.

5) Cincinnati is 5–0, and just routed previously-unbeaten SMU. The team’s fourth-year coach, Luke Fickell, is doing this coming off consecutive 11-win seasons at UC, and has been pursued by bigger schools. Could an NFL team kick the tires on him? It’s an interesting thought, sort of along the lines of Brad Stevens landing the Celtics job out of Butler seven years ago. Fickell worked for Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer at Ohio State, played briefly in the league and his best friend, Mike Vrabel, is among the NFL’s best coaches now.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/10/26/mmqb-w...-garoppolo

I wouldn't hate if the Bengals nabbed him and UC hired Freeman in his place.

Bearcats HC is a better job. Who in their right mind would work for the Brown family?

True but now he works for "No Fans Richie and The Bean"

#6 in each poll this week, with a pretty wide margin in the AP Poll. That blowout definitely moved the needle.

Geef jumped on it.

WEEK 9 Top 25
1 Clemson (7-0) 1 (33)
2 Alabama (6-0) 2 (29)
3 Ohio State (2-0) 3
4 Notre Dame (6-0) 4
5 Georgia (4-1) 5
6 Cincinnati (5-0) 7
7 Texas A&M (4-1) 8
8 Florida (3-1) 10
9 Brigham Young (7-0) 11
10 Wisconsin (1-0) 9
11 Miami (FL) (5-1) 12
12 Oregon (0-0) 14
13 Indiana (2-0) 17
14 Oklahoma State (4-1) 6
15 Coastal Carolina (6-0) 20
16 Marshall (5-0) 19
17 Iowa State (4-2) 23
18 SMU (6-1) 22
19 Oklahoma (4-2) 24
20 USC (0-0) 21
21 Boise State (2-0) 25
22 Texas (4-2)
23 Michigan (1-1) 13
24 Auburn (4-2)
25 Liberty (6-0)

Others receiving votes:
Northwestern 106, Louisiana-Lafayette 101, North Carolina 92, Penn State 87, Tulsa 73, Army 57, Kansas State 51, West Virginia 44, Utah 44, Washington 21, Purdue 15, Virginia Tech 11, San Diego State 8, Arizona State 7, Appalachian State 6, Wake Forest 5, Michigan State 4, California 3

Interesting to see Army at 22 in the Coaches Poll, but 6 spots out in the AP. I'd love to see Tulsa get in there by the time we play them, and for Army to run the table......

If florida wins, do they and georgia swap spots? Or does georgia go to 6 and florida 5?

I also think we need to keep blowing teams out or a&m will jump us unfortunately.

Really though this poll is meaningless and only used for exposure, but it's fun to be so highly ranked

Ohio voters [the Cleveland dude is coming around]:

David Jablonski
Dayton Daily News
#7

David Briggs
Toledo Blade
#6

Nathan Baird
Cleveland.com
#8

Others of note [High of #4/Low #11]:

Brooks Kubena, Ryan Pritt #4
Brian Howell, Chris Murray, Conor O'Neill, James Kratch, John Bednarowski, Lauren Brownlow, Ron Counts #5
Brett McMurphy #6
Rece Davis #9
Don Williams, Nate Mink, Rob Long, Soren Petro #11

(11-01-2020 02:21 PM)geef Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting to see Army at 22 in the Coaches Poll, but 6 spots out in the AP. I'd love to see Tulsa get in there by the time we play them, and for Army to run the table......

I believe both of those scenarios are strong possibilities.