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Frost should take this extra time to try to make Nebraska a better program and not stay a football floor mat in the B1G.

Warren pushes back at Nebraska

Quote:When Warren was asked specifically by Yahoo Sports if Nebraska could play college football this fall, he gave an answer that would make his hardline predecessor nod with approval.

“No,” he said, firmly. “Not and be a member of the Big Ten Conference.”

Warren’s concise Nebraska rebuttal is a nice window into the bottom line he used to help guide the decision that may ultimately define his career as Big Ten commissioner. He politely told Nebraska that if it goes rogue, it can pack it where the corn doesn’t husk. And the league would be happy to keep its $50 million cut and share it with those who play nice.

If Nebraska wants to play, I bet they play. I am sure they will sort out the 50M over the course of a few years

Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

could not agree more.

If Nebraska wants to play a full non conference slate how can the B1G stop them?

(08-12-2020 07:44 AM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]If Nebraska wants to play a full non conference slate how can the B1G stop them?

I was wondering about this a few weeks ago with regards to the SC/Clemson game - I don't believe conferences have any input on non conference games as long as it doesn't break NCAA rules of conflict with conference schedules.

(08-12-2020 08:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2020 07:44 AM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]If Nebraska wants to play a full non conference slate how can the B1G stop them?

I was wondering about this a few weeks ago with regards to the SC/Clemson game - I don't believe conferences have any input on non conference games as long as it doesn't break NCAA rules of conflict with conference schedules.

The conferences could disqualify Clemson and USCar from playing in the CCG. This is particularly true for Clemson, since the ACC is planning to use the allowed 12th regular season game to stage a 1 vs. 2 CCG without obtaining an NCAA waiver. That said, Clemson hasn't filled its 11th game, and could fill it with USCar on an available open date within their existing schedule.

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

I don't need this to dislike the Big Ten, it is just icing on a fifty plus year old cake.

This is one example of why I hope ND football never joins a conference permanently, particularly the Big Ten. Too much control over its program by a conference.

I am rooting for Nebraska to go rogue and play a number of "non-conference" games, shoving it in the face of the Big Ten Commissioner.

If they tried to kick them out there would be lawsuits galore.

The only thing I can think of would be if their is specific language in regards to membership and following Big 10 policy in regards to scheduling. But I don't think any of us are privy to Big 10 bylaws

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

Do tell

(08-12-2020 09:01 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

I don't need this to dislike the Big Ten, it is just icing on a fifty plus year old cake.

This is one example of why I hope ND football never joins a conference permanently, particularly the Big Ten. Too much control over its program by a conference.

I am rooting for Nebraska to go rogue and play a number of "non-conference" games, shoving it in the face of the Big Ten Commissioner.

If the school wants complete control over at scheduling they’re free to become an independent. When you join a conference and except all the benefits from the conference there are also responsibilities.

I think EigenEagle is talking about player demands like there are for the PAC12 and MWC?

(08-12-2020 09:01 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

I don't need this to dislike the Big Ten, it is just icing on a fifty plus year old cake.

This is one example of why I hope ND football never joins a conference permanently, particularly the Big Ten. Too much control over its program by a conference.

I am rooting for Nebraska to go rogue and play a number of "non-conference" games, shoving it in the face of the Big Ten Commissioner.

This is why you're slight unbearable.
Rail against Big Ten and then say Notre Dame should remain Independent. In what sports league is a team able to operate in a different manner than the rest of the league?
I'm fine with them remaining Indy but they should have no access to any sort of bowls/playoffs.
What has garnered this special status? By CFB logic, the Cardinals, Canadiens, Lakers/Celtics, Cowboys should all special preferences before the history just because they have historical success?

I think that schools in each conferences left will decide not to compete in the fall. Boston College, Miami, Georgia Tech, Georgia State, Houston, SMU, North Texas etc. will based on the infection rates for their towns and around airports. Right now, it is not safe to fly in or out of the Miami airport without somebody gets infected. Same with Houston and Dallas. AAC, ACC and C-USA schools in the northern states may ask people from the southern states to quarantine for 14 days. They only waived for pro-teams, but it may be taken away since MLB and NFL are still getting so many players tested possitive. I am not sure all of the Big 12 schools are on board to play this fall. I think Big 12 will wait until spring. It seems our Governor hinted that sports may not happened because of the young people keep ignoring the recomendations of safe distancing and not wearing a mask.

It's unfortunate that Kevin Warren said that. People at Nebraska were very upset and he added to the fire instead. He could have stated something like this:

"I know we have some upset feelings today. This was not a unanimous decision. The important thing today is to start trying to figure out how to make spring ball work and we need Nebraska to help us figure that out."

I hate every way Warren has handled this whole situation. It's not that I'm completely pissed that the season is canceled. It's how he will not answer tough questions and has left a conference divided.

(08-12-2020 11:59 AM)cubucks Wrote: [ -> ]I hate every way Warren has handled this whole situation. It's not that I'm completely pissed that the season is canceled. It's how he will not answer tough questions and has left a conference divided.

Yeah, I'd be very upset in your situation too. Hard to see the logic behind this.

(08-12-2020 07:33 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff like this this is why I hate and root against the Big Ten, and it strongly suggests the Big Ten cancellation is not about player safety.

Lord knows I have been critical of The Big Ten, probably more so than many here, with that being said I wouldn’t say The Big Ten’s decision isn’t about player safety. It might not be singularly about safety, I’m sure there are other concerns, most outside of the Big Ten leadership won’t know what those are, but safety is definitely part of it.

The Big Ten made the decision not to play based on the best information they had available. It’s too soon to know if it was a good call. We know already it was a safe call.

(08-12-2020 11:59 AM)cubucks Wrote: [ -> ]I hate every way Warren has handled this whole situation. It's not that I'm completely pissed that the season is canceled. It's how he will not answer tough questions and has left a conference divided.

The Big 10 is a Chicago/Detroit construct.
The ACC is a Greensboro/DC construct
The SEC is a Birmingham/Atlanta construct
The B12 is a Dallas/OK City construct
The P12 is a California Coast construct

In general, the further you go from the cultural center the more the individual schools become different.

Naturally Nebraska, Penn State, and MD are substantially different from the Michigan/Wisconsin/Chicago core.

Naturally Syracuse, Florida State, Clemson, and BC are substantially different from the NC/Va core.

Florida, Kentucky, Mizzou, and TAMU are substantially different from the Miss/Al/Ga/TN core.

Washington State, Utah, and Colorado are substantially different from the California Coast core.


This does not mean they are unhappy. Just that a degree of cultural difference exists and that these differences are potential fracture zones.

If the Big 10 were to lose Nebraska to the B12 or SEC, I think they would lose Penn State to the ACC. The reason being that Disney can make it worth PSU's while in the ACC while restoring it's relation to Pitt and Syracuse.

PSU has not be treated completely like **** in the B10, but there were never "welcomed" in many quarters.