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Quote:The head of the New York State Troopers union is demanding all state police be removed from the New York City over looming reforms.

New York State Troopers PBA president Thomas Mungeer issued a scathing statement on Wednesday “demanding” that state troopers be removed from the five boroughs “and cease any law enforcement activities within that jurisdiction.”

The call comes as Mayor de Blasio is slated to sign off on a package of police reform bills recently passed by the City Council.

One measure bans the use chokeholds, which are already outlawed at the state level, but adds language holding cops culpable for “sitting, kneelin

Mungeer focused his ire on the bill barring cops from placing any pressure on a person’s chest or back, saying that such tactics are “commonly used by many law enforcement agencies statewide and nationwide when officers are faced with violently combative subjects.”

“I find it extremely troubling that these acts are now defined as criminal in nature, even if they were unintentional and no injury was sustained by the subject,” he added.

NYPD brass have expressed similar concerns about the bill.
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Quote:Mungeer directed his demand at New York State Police Superintendent Keith Corlett, but said there are other options if troopers remain stationed in the city.

He suggested asking Attorney General Letitia James to indemnify State Police members from the “ill-conceived law,” but cast doubt on the likelihood that would happen.

“As that is unlikely to happen, it is the position of the Troopers PBA that if we continue to allow our members to remain stationed and conduct police activity within the five boroughs of New York City, we may be opening them up to criminal and civil liabilities simply by doing the job they were trained to do,” he said.




“This poorly conceived bill, which will be signed into law by Mayor de Blasio today, puts an undue burden upon our troopers; it opens them up to criminal and civil liability for restraining a person during a lawful arrest in a manner that is consistent with their training and is legal throughout the rest of the state,” Mungeer said. “Furthermore, this legislation will prevent troopers from safely and effectively arresting resistant subjects.”
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The police across the country need to follow this example. Every city that votes to defund the police needs to be forced to live without the police.
Why would anyone even want to go to NYC ?
(07-16-2020 07:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone even want to go to NYC ?

Why would anyone want to go to ANY large Democrat run city. They have become open season on law abiding citizens.
(07-16-2020 07:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone even want to go to NYC ?

I used to love going to NYC every once in awhile. I'm probably done ever going back.
(07-16-2020 08:04 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2020 07:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone even want to go to NYC ?

I used to love going to NYC every once in awhile. I'm probably done ever going back.

Dem run cities are fun to visit. Like going to a less well ran zoo.
If you're objective about it, visiting these large cities are awesome. There are a lot of things to do, lot's of history, sports teams, cultural places, etc. IMHO, this bullsh!t won't last. You'll eventually see future versions of Giuliani's winning elections in these cities and major crackdowns on crime. Ebb and Flow - like it's always been.
(07-16-2020 08:38 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]If you're objective about it, visiting these large cities are awesome. There are a lot of things to do, lot's of history, sports teams, cultural places, etc. IMHO, this bullsh!t won't last. You'll eventually see future versions of Giuliani's winning elections in these cities and major crackdowns on crime. Ebb and Flow - like it's always been.

I don't know. Seattle has all the national parks around, Vancouver just up the road, but the city was already becoming a sewer. CHAZ was just the waterfront moved a mile inland. Have a beautiful waterfront but tents and homeless everywhere asking for money. When we went a few years back we just saw it on the waterfront and the south end of downtown (Frontier Park? think that was the name of the area). With no police, I have no desire to go back.

I like visiting New York, but the garbage was already getting to be a problem a couple years ago. The place just stank. It didn't used to be so bad. DeBlasio can't even get the garbage picked up. If the theater district isn't really running, well you can shop and see museums lots of places. There are Italian districts in Boston and San Diego. Chinatowns in San Francisco and even Houston.
(07-16-2020 09:11 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2020 08:38 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]If you're objective about it, visiting these large cities are awesome. There are a lot of things to do, lot's of history, sports teams, cultural places, etc. IMHO, this bullsh!t won't last. You'll eventually see future versions of Giuliani's winning elections in these cities and major crackdowns on crime. Ebb and Flow - like it's always been.

I don't know. Seattle has all the national parks around, Vancouver just up the road, but the city was already becoming a sewer. CHAZ was just the waterfront moved a mile inland. Have a beautiful waterfront but tents and homeless everywhere asking for money. When we went a few years back we just saw it on the waterfront and the south end of downtown (Frontier Park? think that was the name of the area). With no police, I have no desire to go back.

I like visiting New York, but the garbage was already getting to be a problem a couple years ago. The place just stank. It didn't used to be so bad. DeBlasio can't even get the garbage picked up. If the theater district isn't really running, well you can shop and see museums lots of places. There are Italian districts in Boston and San Diego. Chinatowns in San Francisco and even Houston.

We spent 2 years living in Connecticut. If it wasn't for the cost of living, we would have never left the area. I love what the U.S. has to offer and I want to visit all 50 states at some point in my life with my wife by my side. Based on what we know so far, our most favorite part of the country is the north east. It doesn't mean that the south east, south west or anywhere else is bad by any means. Based on our likes and interests you cannot beat living in southern New England IMHO. Again, just our opinion.

Truth be told, I can find positives regardless of where I live (in the U.S. that is). Right now I cannot complain about the midwest at all.
Lol all the New Yorkers are heading to Southern CT. They are buying up property all along the shoreline. With Amtrak back and working from home being a common theme now. NYC is starting to drain a bit.
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