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https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/06/cdc...-epidemic/

"The United States now has so few deaths due to COVID-19 that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Friday it is approaching the threshold for dipping below the level of an epidemic.

The CDC defines an epidemic as an outbreak from which the number of deaths per week exceeds a given percentage of total deaths within the nation. The number of deaths from COVID-19 has steadily declined since hitting its peak in early May after it began spiking in the second week in March...."

Is it November already?

What? No, it can't be, Trump was right again.

Dang this winning, I'm getting sick and tired of it.

Nah, J/K, let's keep doing it. Another thing, finally the Demoncrap mayors, governors are saying the protests had a lot to do with the spike in cases. I guess you can't go against facts.

Why am I not seeing this on any news outlets?

###colored&nofk'nSHITE

(07-06-2020 02:27 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Why am I not seeing this on any news outlets?

b/c WRH has 'risen'... it's beyond obvious....

Wednesday November 4th sounds like a great day to end this thing.

(07-06-2020 02:36 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]Wednesday November 4th sounds like a great day to end this thing.

the3rd is gonna be a slaughter....the house and senate are critical at this point.. and 'that' may not be enough ONCE AGAIN!

(07-06-2020 02:24 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]What? No, it can't be, Trump was right again.

Dang this winning, I'm getting sick and tired of it.

Nah, J/K, let's keep doing it. Another thing, finally the Demoncrap mayors, governors are saying the protests had a lot to do with the spike in cases. I guess you can't go against facts.

Hang in there Ollie, you and the winning got at least another 4 1/2 more years to go!

Hopefully a LOT more.

TBH, Im pretty plum tuckered out myself. But I’m determined to power on through.

Winning, winning, winning. Oh, all the winning. I’m exhausted by all the winning.

The "we're all gonna die" guys over on the AAC board are writing off the football season already.

Why? Because it's getting out of control again... says CNN.

But Muh second wave!

What a bunch of Trump puppets! Am I right?

so we can come out now?

I never went in

(07-06-2020 02:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]The "we're all gonna die" guys over on the AAC board are writing off the football season already.

Why? Because it's getting out of control again... says CNN.

LOL. I tried, along with you, to debate them with logic and facts. It doesn't matter.

For some reason, the handful on that "the sky is falling" bandwagon over there are more hysterical than most of those on the left here.

Here's another article I'm sure they're not reading:

Dr. Atlas: New coronavirus cases should not be the focus -- it should be hospitalizations, deaths
While infection rate rises in new hotspots, death rate has not, doctor says
By Charles Creitz | Fox News

Former Stanford University Medical Center Chief of Neuroradiology Dr. Scott Atlas said Monday that there is too strong a focus on one aspect of coronavirus statistics at the present time, and not enough on another.

Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, said on "The Story" that there's been a heavy focus on an uptick in cases, especially in places where governors either have reinstated or have further enforced restrictions.

"When we see this focus on more cases, it doesn't really matter how many cases -- it only matters who gets the cases. We know that the infection-fatality rate for people under 70 is 0.04 percent -- that's less than or equal to the seasonal flu," he said.

"The cases themselves should not be and were never the focus. It's only the tragic consequences of the cases. When we look at the cases in every state, the overwhelming majority are younger and healthier people."...

...He said that instead of bad news on that front, despite the uptick in infections in various states, the death rate from coronavirus is actually decreasing.

"I realize we have to wait to see the story play out here, but right now, the cases are going up for three weeks and we have no increase, in fact, we have a decrease in death rates. It doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it -- That's what people must understand. For younger healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."...

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-atlas...aths-focus

(07-06-2020 08:37 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2020 02:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]The "we're all gonna die" guys over on the AAC board are writing off the football season already.

Why? Because it's getting out of control again... says CNN.

LOL. I tried, along with you, to debate them with logic and facts. It doesn't matter.

For some reason, the handful on that "the sky is falling" bandwagon over there are more hysterical than most of those on the left here.

Here's another article I'm sure they're not reading:

Dr. Atlas: New coronavirus cases should not be the focus -- it should be hospitalizations, deaths
While infection rate rises in new hotspots, death rate has not, doctor says
By Charles Creitz | Fox News

Former Stanford University Medical Center Chief of Neuroradiology Dr. Scott Atlas said Monday that there is too strong a focus on one aspect of coronavirus statistics at the present time, and not enough on another.

Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, said on "The Story" that there's been a heavy focus on an uptick in cases, especially in places where governors either have reinstated or have further enforced restrictions.

"When we see this focus on more cases, it doesn't really matter how many cases -- it only matters who gets the cases. We know that the infection-fatality rate for people under 70 is 0.04 percent -- that's less than or equal to the seasonal flu," he said.

"The cases themselves should not be and were never the focus. It's only the tragic consequences of the cases. When we look at the cases in every state, the overwhelming majority are younger and healthier people."...

...He said that instead of bad news on that front, despite the uptick in infections in various states, the death rate from coronavirus is actually decreasing.

"I realize we have to wait to see the story play out here, but right now, the cases are going up for three weeks and we have no increase, in fact, we have a decrease in death rates. It doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it -- That's what people must understand. For younger healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."...

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-atlas...aths-focus

lol...nobody on this board ever thought such...

#crazytalk

(07-06-2020 09:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2020 08:37 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2020 02:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]The "we're all gonna die" guys over on the AAC board are writing off the football season already.

Why? Because it's getting out of control again... says CNN.

LOL. I tried, along with you, to debate them with logic and facts. It doesn't matter.

For some reason, the handful on that "the sky is falling" bandwagon over there are more hysterical than most of those on the left here.

Here's another article I'm sure they're not reading:

Dr. Atlas: New coronavirus cases should not be the focus -- it should be hospitalizations, deaths
While infection rate rises in new hotspots, death rate has not, doctor says
By Charles Creitz | Fox News

Former Stanford University Medical Center Chief of Neuroradiology Dr. Scott Atlas said Monday that there is too strong a focus on one aspect of coronavirus statistics at the present time, and not enough on another.

Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, said on "The Story" that there's been a heavy focus on an uptick in cases, especially in places where governors either have reinstated or have further enforced restrictions.

"When we see this focus on more cases, it doesn't really matter how many cases -- it only matters who gets the cases. We know that the infection-fatality rate for people under 70 is 0.04 percent -- that's less than or equal to the seasonal flu," he said.

"The cases themselves should not be and were never the focus. It's only the tragic consequences of the cases. When we look at the cases in every state, the overwhelming majority are younger and healthier people."...

...He said that instead of bad news on that front, despite the uptick in infections in various states, the death rate from coronavirus is actually decreasing.

"I realize we have to wait to see the story play out here, but right now, the cases are going up for three weeks and we have no increase, in fact, we have a decrease in death rates. It doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it -- That's what people must understand. For younger healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."...

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-atlas...aths-focus

lol...nobody on this board ever thought such...

#crazytalk

And there is a Dr. in Texas that has pointed out the difference in Hospital terminology and hospital billing that surrounds COVID. The emergency rooms are 90% occupancy, but there are plenty of reserved rooms not in use so the capacity is measured against dedicated space not total space available. And she notes that when the dedicated space is 90% full that is normal for non COVID occupancy. Then she points to the fact that 80% of the 90% occupancy is for normal ER issues now that people feel safe enough to return to the ER for issues. So stroke victims, heart attack survivors, people with influenza and not COVID, accident victims, burns, broken arms and legs, etc. are now back in the ER's.

She further pointed out that everyone entering is tested and if a guy with a broken arm tests positive then he is listed as a COVID patient because the hospital gets more government money if it is listed that way. So the number of persons in the ER at any one time who are there for other reasons but tested positive are all classified as COVID patients whether they actually feel sick or not.

To play devils advocate here, the deaths, or lack thereof that we are currently seeing are a result of the declining number of cases from 3-4 weeks ago.

Deaths are a trailing indicator so I don’t think you will see a measurable uptick in the death rate from the spikes of the past week or two until mid to late July.

Time will tell if that will materialize but I’m guessing it will be much less than the alarmists would have you believe due to the much younger avg age of those currently contracting the disease combined with likely much better care and therapy than we saw 2 months ago.

(07-06-2020 09:40 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote: [ -> ]To play devils advocate here, the deaths, or lack thereof that we are currently seeing are a result of the declining number of cases from 3-4 weeks ago.

Deaths are a trailing indicator so I don’t think you will see a measurable uptick in the death rate from the spikes of the past week or two until mid to late July.

Time will tell if that will materialize but I’m guessing it will be much less than the alarmists would have you believe due to the much younger avg age of those currently contracting the disease combined with likely much better care and therapy than we saw 2 months ago.

Agree. I would add that those mass protests have been going on daily since May 25, the day George Floyd was killed. This is July 7. Six weeks and large recent case increases, but almost nothing with deaths.

(07-06-2020 09:40 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote: [ -> ]To play devils advocate here, the deaths, or lack thereof that we are currently seeing are a result of the declining number of cases from 3-4 weeks ago.

Deaths are a trailing indicator so I don’t think you will see a measurable uptick in the death rate from the spikes of the past week or two until mid to late July.

Time will tell if that will materialize but I’m guessing it will be much less than the alarmists would have you believe due to the much younger avg age of those currently contracting the disease combined with likely much better care and therapy than we saw 2 months ago.

Perfectly healthy people are getting tested for a disease. First time in history. Why? Because the government is PAYING for the test. Prior to this a medical provider had to have a justifiable reason to order a test. Just watched my local news and they said cases are rising. 225 Sunday . 345 Monday. That is positive tests. That is the lowest numbers I can remember. Positive tests were over 1000 this time last week.