https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/us-coron...nings.html
Since a lot of states reopened around May 1, why is there a surge in Mid-June?
There is no obvious correlation with re-openings despite the MSM obsession with shutting down the country. There are two obvious correlations:
1) Memorial day holiday, and more directly;
2) The protests
Ours is phase 2 reopening and being in a state with Miami
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(06-27-2020 04:23 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/us-coron...nings.html
Since a lot of states reopened around May 1, why is there a surge in Mid-June?
There is no obvious correlation with re-openings despite the MSM obsession with shutting down the country. There are two obvious correlations:
1) Memorial day holiday, and more directly;
2) The protests
No you're wrong. Memorial Day and the protests have something to do with it.
But the bigger issue is graduations and kids and teenagers having time on their hands and being antsy to get out and do something. A majority of the new cases are teenagers to 30-year-olds in warm weather states where school is out. And most have popular beaches in them (the only ones that don't really are Nevada and Arizona).
There were PLENTY of protests in New York, DC, Minneapolis and other big cities in colder states. And those states haven't experienced the massive growth. At least not yet. Maybe they still will.
Just to back up my assertion (grad parties and bars), here are some numbers from Florida.
15 percent of cases in Florida are now 15-24 year olds (2 percent hospitalizations)
20 percent are 25-34 (6 percent of those hospitalized), and 16 percent are 35-44 (9 percent of those hospitalized). The median age of everyone in Florida who is positive was 44, but now it's down to 34.
In case anyone thinks it's more people being tested, you should realize that 50K Floridians were tested on 6/13. The test numbers actually went down over the next 10 days, and it's only been the last 3 days that the test numbers were finally higher than that 50K total (57, 71 and 78K tests the last 3 days).
And most significantly of all, the positive test rate percentage (which is the key stat - not the number of tests but how many people of those being tested are actually showing up with a positive result) has easily doubled and almost tripled. It was 5 and 6 percent back on 6/13 and 6/14. It's now 14 percent in Florida which is a huge number (it was 18 percent on June 23rd alone).
How many protests were there anyway in Florida? I'm sure some but were they everywhere in the state? Tampa had over 1000 new cases today. Orlando has been spiking like crazy, and other smaller counties like Polk and Pasco are also spiking.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partne...latest.pdf
Arizona cases are up but hospitalizations are down a good bit.
OK, here we go again.
Can someone please define what a "case" is?
Is it someone who's actually sick? Or just someone that tests positive but in otherwise good health? Or someone who's had it and is over it?
I don't want to hear just about "cases" if most of the "cases" are people just going about their life like anyone else.
(06-27-2020 06:26 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote: [ -> ]OK, here we go again.
Can someone please define what a "case" is?
Is it someone who's actually sick? Or just someone that tests positive but in otherwise good health? Or someone who's had it and is over it?
I don't want to hear just about "cases" if most of the "cases" are people just going about their life like anyone else.
Cases are Covid 19 tests that people are taking and the result comes back positive. But the symptoms (or lack of symptoms) are different for everybody. So you really can't answer the other questions.
I've known plenty of people who have now tested positive. Most are fine, but that's not to say they won't have re-occurring health issues in the future. An 80-year-old I know is probably on his last legs (but his health has been bad since January when he fell and broke 2 bones in his hip). I'll have to let you know in September how my niece's baby is when he is born. Both my niece and her husband (in Connecticut) had it. Her husband had the higher temperature and worse cough.
Statistically, you're 40 percent more likely to suffer worse symptoms if you have blood type A. You're 35 percent more likely to have lighter symptoms if you have blood type O (thank goodness I and everyone in my family is 0 negative).
If you're in a big city, I hope you don't get a serious health ailment which requires immediate attention. Most of the hospitals in Houston are now full, and most emergency care clinics are only accepting covid-19 test patients. If you're in a rural spot, or a state where the cases aren't that high currently, you're probably fine.
The rise coincides with hotter seasonal temperatures. People have moved inside into closed air conditioned environments. The virus is protected from light and warmer temperature. It survives longer in the air. People breath the same air more times. More people get sick.
Open your windows and doors. It is the simplest and best defense you have.
(06-27-2020 05:34 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ] (06-27-2020 04:23 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/us-coron...nings.html
Since a lot of states reopened around May 1, why is there a surge in Mid-June?
There is no obvious correlation with re-openings despite the MSM obsession with shutting down the country. There are two obvious correlations:
1) Memorial day holiday, and more directly;
2) The protests
No you're wrong. Memorial Day and the protests have something to do with it.
But the bigger issue is graduations and kids and teenagers having time on their hands and being antsy to get out and do something. A majority of the new cases are teenagers to 30-year-olds in warm weather states where school is out. And most have popular beaches in them (the only ones that don't really are Nevada and Arizona).
There were PLENTY of protests in New York, DC, Minneapolis and other big cities in colder states. And those states haven't experienced the massive growth. At least not yet. Maybe they still will.
Hate to tell you but school has been effectively out since March.
So many people have had it in NY, its hard to have a lot of growth.
But as for your point about younger people, they threw away their inhibitions before the lockdown ended and are less and less inhibited every day. I've got a couple teenagers.
(06-27-2020 05:54 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Just to back up my assertion (grad parties and bars), here are some numbers from Florida.
15 percent of cases in Florida are now 15-24 year olds (2 percent hospitalizations)
20 percent are 25-34 (6 percent of those hospitalized), and 16 percent are 35-44 (9 percent of those hospitalized). The median age of everyone in Florida who is positive was 44, but now it's down to 34.
In case anyone thinks it's more people being tested, you should realize that 50K Floridians were tested on 6/13. The test numbers actually went down over the next 10 days, and it's only been the last 3 days that the test numbers were finally higher than that 50K total (57, 71 and 78K tests the last 3 days).
And most significantly of all, the positive test rate percentage (which is the key stat - not the number of tests but how many people of those being tested are actually showing up with a positive result) has easily doubled and almost tripled. It was 5 and 6 percent back on 6/13 and 6/14. It's now 14 percent in Florida which is a huge number (it was 18 percent on June 23rd alone).
How many protests were there anyway in Florida? I'm sure some but were they everywhere in the state? Tampa had over 1000 new cases today. Orlando has been spiking like crazy, and other smaller counties like Polk and Pasco are also spiking.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partne...latest.pdf
But the Florida cases aren't largely people actually being sick. Their death rate is extremely low.
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