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I think there is more than enough evidence to convict them of high treason and put them on death row.

No, only the folks in CHAZ could be found guilty of treason. Even then, none of these dissidents will ever face serious criminal charges.

Every member of Antifa should be charged with sedition. They are guilty of this:

“According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States: ... To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States”

20 years in prison with no video games and no hot pockets should be the minimum sentence.

Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Do you agree with the organization and what it stands for?

Yes ⬜

No ⬜

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

In case no one has noticed, he doesn't really have a position on much of anything. He's just anti anything that anyone else here approves up. Arguing and stirring the pot is all he does.

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Redwingtom?...

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group. Are they on the same level as Al Qaeda? Not at all because they are largely misguided upper middle class white kids of "privilege". I don't think they should be charged with treason IMHO - and to your point this is not exactly a group with membership cards like the Elks or the Moose Lodges. However, I believe that all of these kids who are caught in the act need to prosecuted with the existing local laws to the maximum level possible. They deserve to have their lives made a lot worse for a period of time as justice for their actions. Let them try to get their Art History and ________ Studies degrees in their mid 30s instead of graduating at 21/22 after serving time in prison. And good luck finding meaningful employment for being a convicted felon.

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Absurd. Pretty sure ISIS doesn't give out cards either. And when "white supremacists" start doing what has been going on for the past month everyone here will be against that too. You were doing well there for a while but went off the rails there with that take. Tighten up. If you are part of a plan to "terrorize" people and/or destroy property as part of a group you are a terrorist and should be destroyed.

(06-18-2020 07:39 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?
That’s actually two I think.
Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.
Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Absurd. Pretty sure ISIS doesn't give out cards either. And when "white supremacists" start doing what has been going on for the past month everyone here will be against that too. You were doing well there for a while but went off the rails there with that take. Tighten up. If you are for od a plan to "terrorize" people and/or destroy property as part of a group you are a terrorist and should be destroyed.

What is it they say about Trump supporters, if you're not speaking out against him, you're one of them. Same applies to Antifa, ne c'est pas?

well, they certainly should be up on charges of Sedition. Treason may be appropriate for whomever (like we don't already know) is organizing and funding all this.

(06-18-2020 02:05 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]No, only the folks in CHAZ could be found guilty of treason. Even then, none of these dissidents will ever face serious criminal charges.

I'm pretty sure the whole treason issue is why they got rid of the Autonomous Zone part of CHAZ and renamed it CHOP.

(06-18-2020 08:47 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 02:05 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]No, only the folks in CHAZ could be found guilty of treason. Even then, none of these dissidents will ever face serious criminal charges.

I'm pretty sure the whole treason issue is why they got rid of the Autonomous Zone part of CHAZ and renamed it CHOP.

Yeah but sedition still applies

(06-18-2020 06:40 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Do you agree with the organization and what it stands for?

Yes ⬜

No ⬜

Asked and answered well over a year ago. Move along.

(06-18-2020 07:31 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group. Are they on the same level as Al Qaeda? Not at all because they are largely misguided upper middle class white kids of "privilege". I don't think they should be charged with treason IMHO - and to your point this is not exactly a group with membership cards like the Elks or the Moose Lodges. However, I believe that all of these kids who are caught in the act need to prosecuted with the existing local laws to the maximum level possible. They deserve to have their lives made a lot worse for a period of time as justice for their actions. Let them try to get their Art History and ________ Studies degrees in their mid 30s instead of graduating at 21/22 after serving time in prison. And good luck finding meaningful employment for being a convicted felon.

So in summary, you want people arrested and charged with crimes on a local level when caught. Is this supposed to be some novel approach?

And then what? You want to design a certain type of crime dataset, and if someone commits one of those crimes, they are then a member of Antifa?

What could this slippery slope possibly lead to?

(06-18-2020 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 07:31 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Could you perhaps name one member of Antifa?

Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group. Are they on the same level as Al Qaeda? Not at all because they are largely misguided upper middle class white kids of "privilege". I don't think they should be charged with treason IMHO - and to your point this is not exactly a group with membership cards like the Elks or the Moose Lodges. However, I believe that all of these kids who are caught in the act need to prosecuted with the existing local laws to the maximum level possible. They deserve to have their lives made a lot worse for a period of time as justice for their actions. Let them try to get their Art History and ________ Studies degrees in their mid 30s instead of graduating at 21/22 after serving time in prison. And good luck finding meaningful employment for being a convicted felon.

So in summary, you want people arrested and charged with crimes on a local level when caught. Is this supposed to be some novel approach?
Well...the alternative we've seen so far IN PRACTICE was for them to sit on their hands and allow the rioters and looters to run amok...

And then what? You want to design a certain type of crime dataset, and if someone commits one of those crimes, they are then a member of Antifa?
I said nothing about a database, and tbh whether rioters are Antifa or not is irrelevant if we simply enforce the laws currently on the books.

What could this slippery slope possibly lead to?
LOL, IDK - maybe keeping cities safe and not allowing crime sprees in the name of a dead criminal who most likely indirectly killed people with his illegal drugs??? Yeah...huge slippery slope...

(06-18-2020 09:25 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 07:31 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:49 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]Ellison and his privileged kid?

That’s actually two I think.

Toss in “bullets in the ass” and that gets you three of a kind, trips.

Are you suggesting the fascist “antifa” doesn’t exist?

I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group. Are they on the same level as Al Qaeda? Not at all because they are largely misguided upper middle class white kids of "privilege". I don't think they should be charged with treason IMHO - and to your point this is not exactly a group with membership cards like the Elks or the Moose Lodges. However, I believe that all of these kids who are caught in the act need to prosecuted with the existing local laws to the maximum level possible. They deserve to have their lives made a lot worse for a period of time as justice for their actions. Let them try to get their Art History and ________ Studies degrees in their mid 30s instead of graduating at 21/22 after serving time in prison. And good luck finding meaningful employment for being a convicted felon.

So in summary, you want people arrested and charged with crimes on a local level when caught. Is this supposed to be some novel approach?
Well...the alternative we've seen so far IN PRACTICE was for them to sit on their hands and allow the rioters and looters to run amok...

And then what? You want to design a certain type of crime dataset, and if someone commits one of those crimes, they are then a member of Antifa?
I said nothing about a database, and tbh whether rioters are Antifa or not is irrelevant if we simply enforce the laws currently on the books.

What could this slippery slope possibly lead to?
LOL, IDK - maybe keeping cities safe and not allowing crime sprees in the name of a dead criminal who most likely indirectly killed people with his illegal drugs??? Yeah...huge slippery slope...

But you glossed over the issue here. You can't look at someone, or the actions they do, and just call them Antifa. Much like I can't loot at every republican or trump voter and call them KKK. Get it?

Antifa is a right wing boogeyman. They're not hiding in your closet or under the bed.

(06-18-2020 09:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 09:25 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 07:31 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2020 06:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]I'm suggesting there's no such thing as a "member" of Antifa. I mean sure when you can find someone who has their Antifa membership card and is up to date on their dues go ahead charge them, but otherwise this is a slippery slope to declaring nearly anyone a terrorist. Of all the groups to suggest going down this road I would think the MUH PERSONAL LIBERTY YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REGISTER MY GUN group would know exactly where this stuff leads. Hey don't cry when the Slow Joe administration declares "white supremacists" a terrorist organization.

Antifa is a domestic terrorist group. Are they on the same level as Al Qaeda? Not at all because they are largely misguided upper middle class white kids of "privilege". I don't think they should be charged with treason IMHO - and to your point this is not exactly a group with membership cards like the Elks or the Moose Lodges. However, I believe that all of these kids who are caught in the act need to prosecuted with the existing local laws to the maximum level possible. They deserve to have their lives made a lot worse for a period of time as justice for their actions. Let them try to get their Art History and ________ Studies degrees in their mid 30s instead of graduating at 21/22 after serving time in prison. And good luck finding meaningful employment for being a convicted felon.

So in summary, you want people arrested and charged with crimes on a local level when caught. Is this supposed to be some novel approach?
Well...the alternative we've seen so far IN PRACTICE was for them to sit on their hands and allow the rioters and looters to run amok...

And then what? You want to design a certain type of crime dataset, and if someone commits one of those crimes, they are then a member of Antifa?
I said nothing about a database, and tbh whether rioters are Antifa or not is irrelevant if we simply enforce the laws currently on the books.

What could this slippery slope possibly lead to?
LOL, IDK - maybe keeping cities safe and not allowing crime sprees in the name of a dead criminal who most likely indirectly killed people with his illegal drugs??? Yeah...huge slippery slope...

But you glossed over the issue here. You can't look at someone, or the actions they do, and just call them Antifa. Much like I can't loot at every republican or trump voter and call them KKK. Get it?

Antifa is a right wing boogeyman. They're not hiding in your closet or under the bed.

If read what I posted, I took the affiliation with Antifa out of the equation. That being said, I think you're the one glossing over Antifa. Their name has been linked to the organized rioting AND we've seen them clearly outfitted in the Antifa garb. Also, your comparison between rioters -> Antifa vs Trump voters -> KKK is pretty awful. Rioting/looting is illegal. Voting for someone is not.