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Heading to Virginia Tech.

"My dream has always been to play power 5 football at the highest level, on the biggest stage and compete for championships."
https://twitter.com/zhoban16/status/1269086824066158599
(06-05-2020 09:40 PM)dragon2owl Wrote: [ -> ]Heading to Virginia Tech.

"My dream has always been to play power 5 football at the highest level, on the biggest stage and compete for championships."
https://twitter.com/zhoban16/status/1269086824066158599

"I am walking away from a scholarship to walk-on, in hopes of earning one at the Power 5 level. You don’t do that if you are scared to work, and I am certainly not," Hoban said. ""I really wanted a place that truly valued football. The VT fan base is second to none, with great student and alumni support."
https://www.si.com/college/virginiatech/...ginia-tech

In an earlier article, Hoban said, ""The biggest thing I'm looking for that I wasn't able to get at my last school, is a place in a P5 conference with a big-time fan base that is extremely supportive. I'm also looking for a school with a great business program and a respected degree."
https://www.si.com/college/virginiatech/...zach-hoban
Good Luck, Zach
This article today was extremely timely then. A sizable portion of these kids seemingly think they are all worthy of going to a Power 5 / elite G5 on a scholarship, but very few of them are making it.

Here's the transfer portal for Rice:

Aaron Cephus: no new school yet
Hunter Jones: Cal Poly (would assume he is on an FCS partial scholarship)
Uzoma Osuji: Boise State (assume he is on scholarship)
Anthony Ekpe: Ball State (assume he is on scholarship)
Hunter Henry: Kansas State (assume he is walking on?)
D'Angelo Ellis: no new school yet
Josh Landrum: no new school yet
Dasharm Newsome: no new school yet
Zach Hoban: walk-on at Virginia Tech


https://theathletic.com/1856135/2020/06/...nter-rule/

"This (players ending up walking on after entering the transfer portal) is becoming more common in college football, as more players seek a fresh start in the transfer portal at a time when few teams actually have scholarships to offer them. Scholarship FBS players are going into the portal and discovering they may have to pay their own way in order to go where they think they belong.

According to the NCAA portal database, 202 scholarship FBS players have entered the transfer portal this offseason and enrolled at their new homes. Nearly half of them (98) ended up going down to the FCS level or lower. Of the 104 scholarship transfers who enrolled at FBS programs this offseason, more than 20 percent (23) joined their new teams as walk-ons.

But those are really just the spring enrollees. Many more transfers are being finalized right now as June begins and schools bring their football teams back to campus for voluntary workouts. The next wave of signees who enroll in summer classes is sure to include more players who’ve lost their scholarships by transferring."


"This is going on at Power 5 and Group of 5 schools all over the country. Why does it happen? These programs are permitted to sign just 25 “initial counters” (scholarship players) in one recruiting cycle, even if they have room for more within their 85-man scholarship limit. As we’ve written before, this means most schools have the ability to only sign a couple of scholarship transfer players in the offseason. And because good players enter the portal at random times, these recruiters have to be careful how they spend and save their scholarships.

The supply continues to seriously outweigh the demand. As of Thursday morning, there were still 701 scholarship FBS players listed as “active” in the portal database. To be clear, this doesn’t mean they’re all stuck in the portal. A number of them are still listed as active because they’ve made verbal commitments to their new schools but have yet to enroll. Now is the time when those players should be signing up for classes and joining their new programs, so we should have a better sense of how many found new homes soon.

But when you count the 456 walk-ons still active in the portal, that’s more than 1,150 active FBS players still in the portal at the start of June. Not many of them will luck out and land a scholarship at an FBS school."
According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.

Isn't he from Virginia?
(06-06-2020 07:04 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
Isn't he from Virginia?

Listed in media guide as born and lives in New Jersey.

I don't know about walk-ons, or Virginia Tech, but at our place scholarship athletes are automatically treated as in-state. Obviously helps the athletic department budget a bit.
(06-06-2020 07:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:04 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
Isn't he from Virginia?

Listed in media guide as born and lives in New Jersey.

I don't know about walk-ons, or Virginia Tech, but at our place scholarship athletes are automatically treated as in-state. Obviously helps the athletic department budget a bit.

There’s no difference between in-state and out of state tuition at Rice so I’m a bit confused.

Or are you referring to Texas public universities?
I think Ekpe is headed to Ball State.

Have heard at least a couple of the players in the Bloomgren era who hit the portal asked the coaches if they could come back after not receiving much interest from other schools, and were told sorry but that ship has sailed.
(06-06-2020 09:37 AM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ekpe is headed to Ball State.

Have heard at least a couple of the players in the Bloomgren era who hit the portal asked the coaches if they could come back after not receiving much interest from other schools, and were told sorry but that ship has sailed.

Yep, you’re right, I forgot about Ekpe announcing awhile back.

Good, I’m glad the coaches told them no. Welcome to the real world.
From Rice to Ball State? I bet he is sick about his decision.
(06-06-2020 09:46 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 09:37 AM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ekpe is headed to Ball State.

Have heard at least a couple of the players in the Bloomgren era who hit the portal asked the coaches if they could come back after not receiving much interest from other schools, and were told sorry but that ship has sailed.

Yep, you’re right, I forgot about Ekpe announcing awhile back.

Good, I’m glad the coaches told them no. Welcome to the real world.
(06-06-2020 07:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:04 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
Isn't he from Virginia?

Listed in media guide as born and lives in New Jersey.

Might be able to qualify as a Virginia resident after a year, which would mean about a $20K break, but there are a fair number of hoops to jump through and it's not automatic. Obviously he's hoping he'll have a scholarship by then.
(06-06-2020 07:50 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:04 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
Isn't he from Virginia?
Listed in media guide as born and lives in New Jersey.
I don't know about walk-ons, or Virginia Tech, but at our place scholarship athletes are automatically treated as in-state. Obviously helps the athletic department budget a bit.
There’s no difference between in-state and out of state tuition at Rice so I’m a bit confused.
Or are you referring to Texas public universities?

I'm at a public university.
(06-06-2020 10:29 AM)illiniowl Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 07:04 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 01:07 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Virginia Tech website, the cost of attendance for out of state students living off campus is $49,120. That sounds like a very expensive decision for a kicker.
Isn't he from Virginia?

Listed in media guide as born and lives in New Jersey.

Might be able to qualify as a Virginia resident after a year, which would mean about a $20K break, but there are a fair number of hoops to jump through and it's not automatic. Obviously he's hoping he'll have a scholarship by then.

Get an off-campus apartment (which most of the VT football players do anyway), and stay there in the summer, and get a VA driver's license and some other stuff, and you'll qualify for in-state tuition in about a year.

Maybe if the parent's move closer to VA and satisfy some key requirements, he might qualify sooner.
(06-06-2020 09:55 AM)Texasowl Wrote: [ -> ]From Rice to Ball State? I bet he is sick about his decision.
(06-06-2020 09:46 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2020 09:37 AM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ekpe is headed to Ball State.

Have heard at least a couple of the players in the Bloomgren era who hit the portal asked the coaches if they could come back after not receiving much interest from other schools, and were told sorry but that ship has sailed.

Yep, you’re right, I forgot about Ekpe announcing awhile back.

Good, I’m glad the coaches told them no. Welcome to the real world.

Agree
(06-06-2020 09:37 AM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ekpe is headed to Ball State.

Have heard at least a couple of the players in the Bloomgren era who hit the portal asked the coaches if they could come back after not receiving much interest from other schools, and were told sorry but that ship has sailed.

That's the same exact quote Walt Disney supposedly told P.L. Travers (author of Mary Poppins) after Miss Travers attended the movie premiere of that movie and told Mr. Disney that she wasn't happy with the film adaptation of her book.
Surprised Wiley Green is not in the portal but maybe he understands a degree from Rice has more value then a football future.
Maybe Wiley Green thinks that when he is fully healthy he has a chance to play a lot of football at Rice....I don't think there is a better player to root for than Wiley Green
Great. I hope he accepts the challenge. Only takes one year to be great.
(06-10-2020 09:59 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe Wiley Green thinks that when he is fully healthy he has a chance to play a lot of football at Rice....I don't think there is a better player to root for than Wiley Green
Christian McStravick has been signed as a grad transfer from Boston College. He's 6'-3" 210.
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