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7 total so far within 3 sports. All are a symptomatic. They are isolating. Team activities will continue as further testing is done

Do these data points are going to help reopen schools?

Probably depends on ones bias going into the discussion/decision.

I think the school is using this as a test run to see what would happen if there was an outbreak

better to get as many of these out the way early on. also allows the shock of it to set in early.

Alabama has 5 already and they tested positive AFTER practicing with the team. I still dont think this is going to work this year and if they do it anyways they will regret it.

(06-04-2020 11:21 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote: [ -> ]Alabama has 5 already and they tested positive AFTER practicing with the team. I still dont think this is going to work this year and if they do it anyways they will regret it.

No one is in practicing currently. Teams are working out in small groups.
I think most of us have accepted that there will be cases. But these players are in almost all cases a symptomatic. Schools have prepared for this and will get good practice at controlling a potential campus outbreak in the fall

On our end. When players reported back to campus they were immediately isolated and tested for the virus. Positive players were then isolated for 2 weeks while others were allowed to resume. It’s the exact format that professional leagues in Europe are using

kids are going to catch covid. they are not all going to stay inside and not socialize. the risk is going to be there if they are on campus or at home. at least on campus they have access to regular testing and medical care if needed. the real risk is all the covid deniers who claim there is no risk and its less dangerous than the flu. if people would just take sensible precautions we could move forward without overwhelming the medical system. last month montgomery ran out of ICU beds and had to ship seriously ill patients to birmingham. you can not eliminate risk but you can take reasonable steps to reduce it. asking people to wear a mask in public in crowded areas is not unreasonable.

Well yea that's kinda the whole point which is why its a terrible idea to open campuses back already. Even if the majority of them dont get extreme symptoms, there's still faculty/staff, coaches, professors, bus drivers, non athletic students with health issues... then there is literally no way they can go be around their families during the season if they have older parents, uncles, anyone elderly, etc. These kids are basically going to have to be rounded up, kept isolated from the rest of the student population, isolated constantly and tested constantly. The asymptomatic ones are the worst cases. These are the people spreading it because they dont know they have it. I still dont think it's going to work personally. Its basically saying we accept the fact that some of these kids/coaches may die this year but the rest should be straight solely because we want to see some football.

(06-05-2020 07:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote: [ -> ]Well yea that's kinda the whole point which is why its a terrible idea to open campuses back already. Even if the majority of them dont get extreme symptoms, there's still faculty/staff, coaches, professors, bus drivers, non athletic students with health issues... then there is literally no way they can go be around their families during the season if they have older parents, uncles, anyone elderly, etc. These kids are basically going to have to be rounded up, kept isolated from the rest of the student population, isolated constantly and tested constantly. The asymptomatic ones are the worst cases. These are the people spreading it because they dont know they have it. I still dont think it's going to work personally. Its basically saying we accept the fact that some of these kids/coaches may die this year but the rest should be straight solely because we want to see some football.

All of these positive tests are from students who became infected away from school. If they were still at home they would not have been diagnosed and would still be out there infecting people. At least they would be in a somewhat controlled environment. Out in the real world a lot of people are not practicing any sort of safety measures. I have made pretty much the same argument you made against those who think there is no threat. The key is figuring out how to keep the risk as low as possible while we move forward.

(06-05-2020 07:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote: [ -> ]Well yea that's kinda the whole point which is why its a terrible idea to open campuses back already. Even if the majority of them dont get extreme symptoms, there's still faculty/staff, coaches, professors, bus drivers, non athletic students with health issues... then there is literally no way they can go be around their families during the season if they have older parents, uncles, anyone elderly, etc. These kids are basically going to have to be rounded up, kept isolated from the rest of the student population, isolated constantly and tested constantly. The asymptomatic ones are the worst cases. These are the people spreading it because they dont know they have it. I still dont think it's going to work personally. Its basically saying we accept the fact that some of these kids/coaches may die this year but the rest should be straight solely because we want to see some football.

Statistically speaking the chances of death in these kids is exceedingly low. Like .01 percent of cases or less low

(06-05-2020 01:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-05-2020 07:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote: [ -> ]Well yea that's kinda the whole point which is why its a terrible idea to open campuses back already. Even if the majority of them dont get extreme symptoms, there's still faculty/staff, coaches, professors, bus drivers, non athletic students with health issues... then there is literally no way they can go be around their families during the season if they have older parents, uncles, anyone elderly, etc. These kids are basically going to have to be rounded up, kept isolated from the rest of the student population, isolated constantly and tested constantly. The asymptomatic ones are the worst cases. These are the people spreading it because they dont know they have it. I still dont think it's going to work personally. Its basically saying we accept the fact that some of these kids/coaches may die this year but the rest should be straight solely because we want to see some football.

Statistically speaking the chances of death in these kids is exceedingly low. Like .01 percent of cases or less low

One of the points he was making is that it’s not just the players that are at risk.

(06-05-2020 04:32 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-05-2020 01:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-05-2020 07:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote: [ -> ]Well yea that's kinda the whole point which is why its a terrible idea to open campuses back already. Even if the majority of them dont get extreme symptoms, there's still faculty/staff, coaches, professors, bus drivers, non athletic students with health issues... then there is literally no way they can go be around their families during the season if they have older parents, uncles, anyone elderly, etc. These kids are basically going to have to be rounded up, kept isolated from the rest of the student population, isolated constantly and tested constantly. The asymptomatic ones are the worst cases. These are the people spreading it because they dont know they have it. I still dont think it's going to work personally. Its basically saying we accept the fact that some of these kids/coaches may die this year but the rest should be straight solely because we want to see some football.

Statistically speaking the chances of death in these kids is exceedingly low. Like .01 percent of cases or less low

One of the points he was making is that it’s not just the players that are at risk.

Right, but it is far easier as a school to protect coaches and professors. Schedules and class sizes can be done in such a way that they don't have to venture out if they don't feel comfortable. Its not as simple with players and students who live together in tightly cramped residential halls and are generally not known for being huge fans of social distancing.

Not to mention that people in the US Have wildly different views of this thing. I think its very obvious that a positive case at New York University will be handled very differently from one at Arkansas State.

(06-04-2020 03:45 PM)balanced_view Wrote: [ -> ]better to get as many of these out the way early on. also allows the shock of it to set in early.

Yep.

I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

(06-06-2020 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

Ive heard if you donate blood they will do an antibody test.

(06-07-2020 06:53 AM)FrankyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-06-2020 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

Ive heard if you donate blood they will do an antibody test.

Did not do it when my wife donated platelets here in WNC. Not sure about whole blood though.

(06-06-2020 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

That seems like an unfortunate setup. What if you're afraid you were exposed?

Also, I think a lot is going to depend on how well these little outbreaks are contained. If it starts spreading through all of FBS, I bet the plug gets pulled. A 0.01% mortality rate probably starts looking pretty scary to those in charge of a system with more than 10,000 athletes.

(06-07-2020 07:15 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-06-2020 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

That seems like an unfortunate setup. What if you're afraid you were exposed?

Also, I think a lot is going to depend on how well these little outbreaks are contained. If it starts spreading through all of FBS, I bet the plug gets pulled. A 0.01% mortality rate probably starts looking pretty scary to those in charge of a system with more than 10,000 athletes.

Really. And I thought anyone wanting a test could get one? Especially someone in healthcare. That’s a serious question. Not trying to be political.

Here in Georgia I was able to get an antibody test no problem. You could go directly to the labs website and purchase it and then set up an appointment if you wanted. They also have free testing centers around the state. You don't have to be showing symptoms to get tested for an active infection.

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(06-07-2020 08:43 AM)FrankyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-07-2020 07:15 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-06-2020 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if I have or have had asymptomatic COVID. I work in healthcare, and we are not able to get tested unless we are symptomatic.

That seems like an unfortunate setup. What if you're afraid you were exposed?

Also, I think a lot is going to depend on how well these little outbreaks are contained. If it starts spreading through all of FBS, I bet the plug gets pulled. A 0.01% mortality rate probably starts looking pretty scary to those in charge of a system with more than 10,000 athletes.

Really. And I thought anyone wanting a test could get one? Especially someone in healthcare. That’s a serious question. Not trying to be political.

Every State has different policies with testing. In some places, health care workers cannot get Asymptomatic testing because it would lead to an otherwise healthy worker being isolated for a period of time. By only testing those with symptoms, they avoid that possibility.

I work in Health Care in Memphis, but I live in Arkansas. If I wanted to get Asymptomatic testing in Arkansas, I could walk in to any clinic 5 days a week and get it. If I wanted to do it in Memphis? No chance. Likewise, if I came back positive, by Arkansas rules, I'd be isolated for 7 days from the date of testing, and provided I am not running a fever by then I'd be declared recovered. By Memphis rules, I'd be isolated for 10-14 days minimum, and would often be required to test negative a second time to be cleared.