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https://thehill.com/opinion/education/50...he-schools

"...The death of even one child is tragic, of course. Yet, it must be kept in mind that as many as 600 children in the United States died from seasonal influenza in 2017-18, according to CDC estimates, while the CDC’s estimate for COVID-19 fatalities number just 12. A just-released JAMA Pediatrics study flatly states: “Our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19.” If the COVID-19 hazard sets the new standard for health safety, the country will need to close its schools each year from November until April to guard against influenza....

Robin Lake at the Center for Reinventing Public Education says that “elementary students [in urban districts] may have lost 30 percent of their reading skills.”

Closure will endanger the health of our children, too. Already, more than half of America’s children are not receiving needed vaccinations. Further, schools are the place where many learn that they need glasses or a hearing aid, or, if seriously ill, are guided by the school nurse to the doctor’s office for prompt medical attention.


In addition, children are being denied opportunities for social and emotional development that come with play, exercise, sports and socialization. Reports already indicate that suicide rates among the young are on the increase. More certain is the loss in human capital that lasts a lifetime: Closing schools this past spring translates into a 3 percent or more cut in lifetime earnings for those whose education is being sidelined. Clearly, closing schools does not benefit those whom schools are supposed to serve...."

I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

(06-01-2020 10:39 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]https://thehill.com/opinion/education/50...he-schools

"...The death of even one child is tragic, of course. Yet, it must be kept in mind that as many as 600 children in the United States died from seasonal influenza in 2017-18, according to CDC estimates, while the CDC’s estimate for COVID-19 fatalities number just 12. A just-released JAMA Pediatrics study flatly states: “Our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19.” If the COVID-19 hazard sets the new standard for health safety, the country will need to close its schools each year from November until April to guard against influenza....

Robin Lake at the Center for Reinventing Public Education says that “elementary students [in urban districts] may have lost 30 percent of their reading skills.”

Closure will endanger the health of our children, too. Already, more than half of America’s children are not receiving needed vaccinations. Further, schools are the place where many learn that they need glasses or a hearing aid, or, if seriously ill, are guided by the school nurse to the doctor’s office for prompt medical attention.


In addition, children are being denied opportunities for social and emotional development that come with play, exercise, sports and socialization. Reports already indicate that suicide rates among the young are on the increase. More certain is the loss in human capital that lasts a lifetime: Closing schools this past spring translates into a 3 percent or more cut in lifetime earnings for those whose education is being sidelined. Clearly, closing schools does not benefit those whom schools are supposed to serve...."

I'm not sure how one calculates the bolded. Moreover, the article assumes that when schools closed that education stopped. Or are they saying all those Zoom calls with teachers and parents taking over the curriculum wasn't insufficient? The articles appears to be a broad brush when the actual area of concern is with kids from disadvantaged socioeconomic homes.

Local school system has come out with 5 potential scenarios with how school may begin in the fall. Ranging from everyone back to online learning with a myriad of steps inbetween. It's good they are planning ahead, but as of now I don't think they have a clue as to what will actually happen.

(06-01-2020 10:39 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]https://thehill.com/opinion/education/50...he-schools

"...The death of even one child is tragic, of course. Yet, it must be kept in mind that as many as 600 children in the United States died from seasonal influenza in 2017-18, according to CDC estimates, while the CDC’s estimate for COVID-19 fatalities number just 12. A just-released JAMA Pediatrics study flatly states: “Our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19.” If the COVID-19 hazard sets the new standard for health safety, the country will need to close its schools each year from November until April to guard against influenza....

Robin Lake at the Center for Reinventing Public Education says that “elementary students [in urban districts] may have lost 30 percent of their reading skills.”

Closure will endanger the health of our children, too. Already, more than half of America’s children are not receiving needed vaccinations. Further, schools are the place where many learn that they need glasses or a hearing aid, or, if seriously ill, are guided by the school nurse to the doctor’s office for prompt medical attention.


In addition, children are being denied opportunities for social and emotional development that come with play, exercise, sports and socialization. Reports already indicate that suicide rates among the young are on the increase. More certain is the loss in human capital that lasts a lifetime: Closing schools this past spring translates into a 3 percent or more cut in lifetime earnings for those whose education is being sidelined. Clearly, closing schools does not benefit those whom schools are supposed to serve...."

From the time Xi's government released the COVID19 virus, through Floyd's death and into the subsequent riots, there has only truly been one target, the destruction of the economy.

The virus was designed to be unknown, highly contagious, and lethal to the elderly and immune compromised. I have even suspected, but there is no data taken to prove it, that it was designed to attack those immunized for influenza. Why? Those would be the elderly, the immune compromised, and random people from other demographics thereby confusing the time it takes to figure it out.

The Harvard professor Lieber knew which vaccines we used and he was heavily paid by the PRC and he also worked on the nanocytes which were likely used to alter and bond the virus having two communist agents working with him as graduate students.

If this had been designed to primarily kill rather than to tie up resources, create panic, and shut down Western economies they would have used a virus that would have been deadlier.

Just as people start back to work the death of Georgi Floyd goes viral and the ANTIFA organizers are there to start the riots which target businesses. China starts refusing crops from Australia and the U.S. and that target is the economy.

Why? China fears that under trade restrictions the U.S. will gain a quick upper hand and that their long range strategies to first control us and then destroy us will be thwarted and that their subsequent economic isolation will render them to a status where they cannot catch up or survive.

So they are pulling out all the stops to shut down our economic engine so that our National Debt which is ballooning will threaten through inflation (already started in food production) will help to create even more internal unrest which will undermine its value abroad (already begun) to create uncertainty over its status as World Reserve Currency in favor of the Renminbi which is gold backed at slightly more than 10% and is in that regard far more stable, provided of course people do business with China which the U.S. is threatening.

The shutting down of schools hurts parents who work in that it adds day care to their economic equation. It's not as much of a problem for parents who have lost their jobs, but eating is and keeping their house payments current are.

IMO the stimulus checks went to the wrong people. They should have gone to those who lost income due to job shut down and in that regard propped up Unemployment Insurance. With many stores closed the stimulus doesn't help them, but the business loans do. In the end is the good citizen who doesn't have a job to go to that is getting crushed.

Our economy is a system. If you are going to attack an enemy you find the weakest connections in their economic system and attack them. The weakest link in any economic machine is its constant production because it destroys the supply and demand perpetual motion that makes that economy strong.

No doubt we were strong enough to endure 2 months of it and to recover. But the ongoing disruptions in our society are designed to shut down recovering commerce in our major cities (unfortunately governed by China sympathetic Dems and idiots) and I would submit their intention to push for a breaking point for enough business that they can insure pain and suffering and longer term losses moving right into and through the election.

Multinationals want China trade so they sell the mayhem and distort or fail to cover those things being handled well, or those areas not rioting, which is most. The media they own continue to push gloom and doom. And they are complicit with our enemy abroad because that enemy profits them. And the Democrats are their political instrument of obstruction and China money via bogus PACS buys that complicity as well.

What all Americans are missing is the fact that this is a war and it is being waged by China, corporate multi-nationals who no longer see the U.S. government as essential to their bottom line, and by leftist politicians sold out to staying in power from contributions from an enemy which makes them part of a 5th column against the citizens of this nation. If the American people can open their eyes to this everything can change for the better. Especially if the role of public education in anti American propaganda can be dismantled to stop the spreading of lies.

(06-02-2020 07:24 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:39 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]https://thehill.com/opinion/education/50...he-schools

"...The death of even one child is tragic, of course. Yet, it must be kept in mind that as many as 600 children in the United States died from seasonal influenza in 2017-18, according to CDC estimates, while the CDC’s estimate for COVID-19 fatalities number just 12. A just-released JAMA Pediatrics study flatly states: “Our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19.” If the COVID-19 hazard sets the new standard for health safety, the country will need to close its schools each year from November until April to guard against influenza....

Robin Lake at the Center for Reinventing Public Education says that “elementary students [in urban districts] may have lost 30 percent of their reading skills.”

Closure will endanger the health of our children, too. Already, more than half of America’s children are not receiving needed vaccinations. Further, schools are the place where many learn that they need glasses or a hearing aid, or, if seriously ill, are guided by the school nurse to the doctor’s office for prompt medical attention.


In addition, children are being denied opportunities for social and emotional development that come with play, exercise, sports and socialization. Reports already indicate that suicide rates among the young are on the increase. More certain is the loss in human capital that lasts a lifetime: Closing schools this past spring translates into a 3 percent or more cut in lifetime earnings for those whose education is being sidelined. Clearly, closing schools does not benefit those whom schools are supposed to serve...."

I'm not sure how one calculates the bolded. Moreover, the article assumes that when schools closed that education stopped. Or are they saying all those Zoom calls with teachers and parents taking over the curriculum wasn't insufficient? The articles appears to be a broad brush when the actual area of concern is with kids from disadvantaged socioeconomic homes.

I don’t remember if this article or another one they talked about how 20% of the kids never even came into their online classes and only about 50% attendance normally

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

No child left behind is hated because you are right, nobody cares about special needs kids. Even hard to get some special needs administrators to care

I really doubt schools open, but at the same time they need their indoctrination centers open.

(06-02-2020 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

No child left behind is hated because you are right, nobody cares about special needs kids. Even hard to get some special needs administrators to care

Not true. Such kids are invaluable in justifying the edifice of public education. Now the system won't provide the dedicated services Special Needs Kids require, but without them most schools districts would only have the malcontents to use as reason for increasing the millage rate.

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

I agree.

My son is considered special needs and when this all hit, it threw his entire world in disarray. We've done our best and luckily Zoom has provided a way he gets a few minutes a week with his teachers and therapist, but missing the 20 hours a week he was getting vs 20 minutes now, he's craving the help he got. He's flourished at home with his mom and me, but he's still got a long road to go. My understanding is that the school he attends is getting an exemption and he'll be allowed to go back in July.

(06-02-2020 11:47 AM)gdunn Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

I agree.

My son is considered special needs and when this all hit, it threw his entire world in disarray. We've done our best and luckily Zoom has provided a way he gets a few minutes a week with his teachers and therapist, but missing the 20 hours a week he was getting vs 20 minutes now, he's craving the help he got. He's flourished at home with his mom and me, but he's still got a long road to go. My understanding is that the school he attends is getting an exemption and he'll be allowed to go back in July.

Mine was already in an online school after struggling in a regular school with teachers who had given up. And online psychiatry works about as well as in person, unlike physical therapy.

(06-02-2020 11:45 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2020 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

No child left behind is hated because you are right, nobody cares about special needs kids. Even hard to get some special needs administrators to care

Not true. Such kids are invaluable in justifying the edifice of public education. Now the system won't provide the dedicated services Special Needs Kids require, but without them most schools districts would only have the malcontents to use as reason for increasing the millage rate.

I've fought with them for years and dealt with other parents who have. People who care are few and far between. And even some who think they do lose their drive to help.

(06-02-2020 11:57 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2020 11:45 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2020 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

No child left behind is hated because you are right, nobody cares about special needs kids. Even hard to get some special needs administrators to care

Not true. Such kids are invaluable in justifying the edifice of public education. Now the system won't provide the dedicated services Special Needs Kids require, but without them most schools districts would only have the malcontents to use as reason for increasing the millage rate.

I've fought with them for years and dealt with other parents who have. People who care are few and far between. And even some who think they do lose their drive to help.

I know the feeling. I pulled my autistic daughter from what was a good public school system when she was 6. She had escaped the classroom while the Special Ed teachers were distracted with other kids. The dedicated instructor that she was supposed to get ended up assisting other more profoundly disabled kids.

(06-02-2020 11:57 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2020 11:45 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2020 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-01-2020 10:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, bullet.

here's another thing: many private schools had a good handle on this thing and could in fact have opened up before the end of the school year. But many leaders were afraid or knew the under-prepared government schools couldn't compete and get their acts together to do it, so they instead said everyone had to stay shut down. Think about that for a minute.

The kids that are hurt the most: Special Needs Kids (and their parents). Few in government (or in the D party especially) give a crap about them.

School Choice. School Accountability. It's the American way. It's the better way. It's the Fairer way.

No child left behind is hated because you are right, nobody cares about special needs kids. Even hard to get some special needs administrators to care

Not true. Such kids are invaluable in justifying the edifice of public education. Now the system won't provide the dedicated services Special Needs Kids require, but without them most schools districts would only have the malcontents to use as reason for increasing the millage rate.

I've fought with them for years and dealt with other parents who have. People who care are few and far between. And even some who think they do lose their drive to help.

And that would be because the children are no longer the focus of most teachers, advancement is. From the moment they start teaching they are pursuing another certification so they can up their pay grade, then it's specialized credentialing for niche committee work, or for moving from the classroom to administration. And on and on it goes with the paper chase.

The days of women and men feeling called to educate a future generation are long gone. And with them their idealism which has been replaced from the NEA's directive on the political stances educators should promote, and curricula centered around a dedicated month for ever socially aggrieved party so that disunity takes the place of the Pledge of Allegiance and special privilege is afforded to groups politically recognized while the rest learn to apologize for the group they were born into.

This is how we raise a generation of white kids who are taught all of the lessons of any culture but their own and why they go out in the streets to pathetically pretend to be a part of the "black" (insert the aggrieved group of choice) experience as if they even have a clue.

Educators quit caring about our children a long damn time ago. If they aren't pursuing their own advancement they are playing Social Justice Crusader to get attaboys from the principal who is seeking advancement and needs the political boxes checked before he or she pursues it.

This is why they don't teach but generally only prepare students to take standardized tests so the schools' average scores fit the norms that are acceptable. So thinking is not important, problem solving irrelevant, but rote memorization is essential. These kids can spout off anything but have no clue what it means or how it applies.

This is why I rail against public education. It's killing us and the bureaucratization of education from the National Level instead of the local community is why it fails.