That's the plan - Notre Dame says F2F classes will run from August 10 to Thanksgiving with no breaks, of course a new outbreak could change things. Fascinating how this is working out. As of now, I see a clear bias between public and private. Even rich private schools are facing more pressure than poor public ones, because as poor as they are, the public schools are backed by the resources of the State:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/no...aO6JZjm-2M
Interesting. It got me thinking about the whole idea of Fall Break and the school calendar. To be honest, I don't remember ever having a Fall Break. Spring, yes, when the weather was nice. But my recollection of campus life in the 60's was that we started much later in September (around the third week after Labor Day, so maybe around the 20th or so), and any break we might have had would have been so close to Thanksgiving it would have been pretty pointless.
Of course, most of our students were pretty local, and not many lived on campus. I wonder if some schools might consider a change in their calendar even after this crisis is past. Sure seems more efficient.
An indefinite change to this format would help college football. There’s a handful of schools without students the first 2-3 weeks.
(05-19-2020 08:46 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. It got me thinking about the whole idea of Fall Break and the school calendar. To be honest, I don't remember ever having a Fall Break. Spring, yes, when the weather was nice. But my recollection of campus life in the 60's was that we started much later in September (around the third week after Labor Day, so maybe around the 20th or so), and any break we might have had would have been so close to Thanksgiving it would have been pretty pointless.
Of course, most of our students were pretty local, and not many lived on campus. I wonder if some schools might consider a change in their calendar even after this crisis is past. Sure seems more efficient.
At Miami University way back when, Thanksgiving WAS when fall break took place ... Fall Break was Thanksgiving Break. Took the charter bus to the Columbus Greyhound station pretty much every year to get back home to central Ohio.
Now, Miami at the time had a mandatory first year on campus except for students who lived within a certain distance from campus, and is in a small college town in the middle of nowhere in SW Ohio, so there weren't a lot of commuter students.
OTOH when I taught class at a time teaching at a small for profit two year college, they crammed 5 ten week terms into the year and took exactly Thursday and Friday off for Thanksgiving.
(05-19-2020 08:46 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. It got me thinking about the whole idea of Fall Break and the school calendar. To be honest, I don't remember ever having a Fall Break. Spring, yes, when the weather was nice. But my recollection of campus life in the 60's was that we started much later in September (around the third week after Labor Day, so maybe around the 20th or so), and any break we might have had would have been so close to Thanksgiving it would have been pretty pointless.
Of course, most of our students were pretty local, and not many lived on campus. I wonder if some schools might consider a change in their calendar even after this crisis is past. Sure seems more efficient.
My UG back in the early 90's had no fall break other than Thanksgiving. For grad school at FSU, the only year we had a fall break was the year we had a Thursday night home football game against Clemson and the powers that be were worried about having enough parking.
(05-20-2020 07:11 AM)BruceMcF Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2020 08:46 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. It got me thinking about the whole idea of Fall Break and the school calendar. To be honest, I don't remember ever having a Fall Break. Spring, yes, when the weather was nice. But my recollection of campus life in the 60's was that we started much later in September (around the third week after Labor Day, so maybe around the 20th or so), and any break we might have had would have been so close to Thanksgiving it would have been pretty pointless.
Of course, most of our students were pretty local, and not many lived on campus. I wonder if some schools might consider a change in their calendar even after this crisis is past. Sure seems more efficient.
At Miami University way back when, Thanksgiving WAS when fall break took place ... Fall Break was Thanksgiving Break.
Yes, it used to be that semesters would end before December 1st. Now they often end closer to Mid-December.
Things across the board keep getting pushed back. The Super Bowl used to be around January 20 now it's the first week of February. A couple days ago, May 16, was the 40th Anniversary of Magic Johnson's stunning performance in Game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals vs the 76ers. An NBA Finals Game 6 in Mid-May? That's LOL territory these days.
I think ND is on to something that would work better permanently.
Northern Michigan & Saginaw Valley St (DII - GLIAC) announced they're having on-campus students on the fall.
Calvin College (DIII) announced it as well.
I'm not sure how they plan on doing this with the governor stay-at-home-order, however.
Also, I don't see the issue in that fall schedule at all.
(05-20-2020 03:54 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ]Syracuse to reopen August 24th
Extended hours during the week
Instruction ends before Thanksgiving
Virtual Review session and Final Exams
https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/202...edule.html
Quote:Syverud wrote that Syracuse will offer most of its classes in an online format in addition to hosting them in person to accommodate those with health concerns. He said that faculty members should be prepared to transition to virtual instruction if it becomes necessary.
My guess is that pretty much every university will do this -- instructors will have every class session available online, both to reduce the number of people who show up in the classroom and to be prepared to go online-only on very short notice if necessary. And most high schools will do the same thing this fall.
Purdue president said on CNN this morning that a lot of professors will be teaching behind plexiglass. That might be another common occurrence on college campuses.
(05-20-2020 04:44 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Purdue president said on CNN this morning that a lot of professors will be teaching behind plexiglass. That might be another common occurrence on college campuses.
Makes sense. The 20 year old students without underlying health conditions are far, far less vulnerable to bad Covid outcomes than are professors pushing 60 and older, like me. So plexiglass will be beneficial.
I thought I heard Cambridge isn't opening till mid-2021?
(05-20-2020 04:44 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Purdue president said on CNN this morning that a lot of professors will be teaching behind plexiglass. That might be another common occurrence on college campuses.
It'll also protect them from the inevitable classroom robberies.
(05-20-2020 05:10 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]I thought I heard Cambridge isn't opening till mid-2021?
I heard that from a friend in academia, which probably means Oxford will follow suit (the England one, not the Mississippi or Ohio ones).
Liberty has been having on campus classes since Spring Break.