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per enquirer this morning, all options open, including hiring an agent...

^^^^
See K2 thread.

Vogt too:



He says he's keeping his options open so I'm sure most of us are guessing he'll be back.

Vogt should definitely be back, though I wonder if some of these guys declaring will just try to make money since there is still some uncertainty if there will be college basketball next season.

(04-21-2020 01:39 PM)BigDawg Wrote: [ -> ]Vogt should definitely be back, though I wonder if some of these guys declaring will just try to make money since there is still some uncertainty if there will be college basketball next season.

I do think the uncertainty around college basketball will push some guys to go pro who normally would stay. Even if the season happens, they are already missing out on practice time and will continue to miss practice time over summer. I'm not sure how much practice time pros are getting in right now, but they will probably find a way to practice quicker than colleges.

I've said before and continue to believe that Vogt will never play in the NBA. He lacks athleticism and shooting ability. If he had one of those two he might at least get looks, but without either he will end up playing in Europe. But he might as well get evaluated and with the uncertainty around Covid I wouldn't blame him or Keith for taking their chances at going pro.

I hate when people use “of” instead of “‘ve”

(04-21-2020 03:38 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]I hate when people use “of” instead of “‘ve”

Listen... We live in the United States ve America. I can use any words ve my choosing.

(04-21-2020 03:38 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]I hate when people use “of” instead of “‘ve”

You would of have made a good school marm.

(04-22-2020 07:51 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2020 03:38 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]I hate when people use “of” instead of “‘ve”

You would of have made a good school marm.

I do wish marm would make a comeback.

Any updates on this?

I would assume that both Keith and Big Chris are coming back (if there is something to come back to).

Any verification one way or the other?

(07-21-2020 07:58 AM)namrag Wrote: [ -> ]Any updates on this?

I would assume that both Keith and Big Chris are coming back (if there is something to come back to).

Any verification one way or the other?

Bolded, a key question in my mind. If the plug is going to be pulled on the college basketball season, it seems that would make the decision easier for seniors to take a chance on play for pay sooner rather than later.

(07-21-2020 09:08 AM)OKIcat Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-21-2020 07:58 AM)namrag Wrote: [ -> ]Any updates on this?

I would assume that both Keith and Big Chris are coming back (if there is something to come back to).

Any verification one way or the other?

Bolded, a key question in my mind. If the plug is going to be pulled on the college basketball season, it seems that would make the decision easier for seniors to take a chance on play for pay sooner rather than later.

They have like another month or so to decide. Though if there is no college season, I can see them pursuing G-League or overseas.

At this point I think football season is toast and at least the non conference season of basketball will end up being cancelled as well.

Unless I was focused on getting my degree and moving on with my off-court life’s work, I think I’d strongly consider making some money now rather than squandering a senior season losing a year of athletic earning potential and exposure even if that is internationally or in a developmental league.

(07-21-2020 09:48 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]At this point I think football season is toast and at least the non conference season of basketball will end up being cancelled as well.

Unless I was focused on getting my degree and moving on with my off-court life’s work, I think I’d strongly consider making some money now rather than squandering a senior season losing a year of athletic earning potential and exposure even if that is internationally or in a developmental league.

Yeah, I don't think I would wait around either, assuming I have a chance to either play in the G League or make 6 figures overseas.

(07-21-2020 09:48 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]At this point I think football season is toast and at least the non conference season of basketball will end up being cancelled as well.

Unless I was focused on getting my degree and moving on with my off-court life’s work, I think I’d strongly consider making some money now rather than squandering a senior season losing a year of athletic earning potential and exposure even if that is internationally or in a developmental league.

Unless you are at a school wear a shoe manufacturer can get away with paying you six digits a year, we are almost at a point where college does not make sense for a lot of the better guys anymore. G League is paying $75k a year and guys can pick up extra scratch if they get on a 10 day in the NBA or playing in Puerto Rico in the offseason. On top of that they can sign into apparel deals.

(07-21-2020 10:23 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-21-2020 09:48 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]At this point I think football season is toast and at least the non conference season of basketball will end up being cancelled as well.

Unless I was focused on getting my degree and moving on with my off-court life’s work, I think I’d strongly consider making some money now rather than squandering a senior season losing a year of athletic earning potential and exposure even if that is internationally or in a developmental league.

Unless you are at a school wear a shoe manufacturer can get away with paying you six digits a year, we are almost at a point where college does not make sense for a lot of the better guys anymore. G League is paying $75k a year and guys can pick up extra scratch if they get on a 10 day in the NBA or playing in Puerto Rico in the offseason. On top of that they can sign into apparel deals.

Minor and overseas leagues are a crap-shoot. After those who go that route are replaced by someone better, how many would have the smarts or discipline to return to school? Lacking degrees, I suppose they could get jobs as burger flippers or Uber drivers. As always, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Neither of the guys we are talking about will have any problem collecting a decent check for a stretch playing basketball somewhere. Likely for considerably more than whatever degree they get would pay for years.

(07-21-2020 12:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Neither of the guys we are talking about will have any problem collecting a decent check for a stretch playing basketball somewhere. Likely for considerably more than whatever degree they get would pay for years.

If there's no NCAA ball, there's likely no G-league or overseas ball, either.

I bet there will be bball in Europa.

(07-21-2020 05:07 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote: [ -> ]I bet there will be bball in Europa.

Yeah, they've been playing soccer over there for a couple months now. Unlike the United States, their numbers continue to decrease. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the way the cases or counted or our testing protocols, Europe at least appears to have this thing under better control than we do.