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Last week was a tough pill to swallow. We are not out of this thing yet, but we do have a lot of things that need to go our way going forward.

Let's cover non-WMU NCHC

1. NoDak locked in, they are now focused on trying to lock up a 1 seed.
2. Duluth, locked in by probability, but probably mathmatically possible they aren't. Duluth fans should just be focused on improving their seed.
3. Denver virtually the same as Duluth.
4. WMU...more later
5. St. Cloud...more later
6. Omaha, probably mathmatically alive, but they need soooo many things to go their way with other teams it's not worth the time to figure it out.
7. Miami...needs to win the tourney.
8. CC....needs to win the tourney.

OK....big picture time.

The following schools should feel pretty good about their playoff situation.
NoDak, Cornell, Duluth, Denver, Minn St., Boston College, Penn State, and largely confident for Clarkson, and UMass. For the most part I'd count those 9 teams as "locks" for the purpose of this post.

Remember 1 spot will also get taken by an auto-qualifier. So that's 10 spots off the table. That leaves 6 spots that appear "available" to WMU. This assumes no "surprise conference champs", so that number could fall to 5 or 4.

For those 6 spots the following teams seem in the hunt.

Bemidji, OSU, ASU, Lowell, Q, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, NE, WMU, ND, Providence, St. Cloud

(Math says there is a chance for a few other teams, but the scenario for one of those teams is quite incredible, so we'll leave them out)

It really means 13 schools for up to 6 spots (but maybe fewer spots).

We again can subdivide them into 3 categories. 1. Control Destiny, 2. True Bubble, 3. Needs help

Control Destiny: Bemidji, OSU, Lowell. These three teams likely punch their ticket this week by winning their series. (OSU fell into this group by getting swept at home last week by Wisconsin) These teams you must root against with a passion this week. If these three all win their series it might be 13 spots virtually locked after this weekend. Leaving 10 schools fighting for at most 3 spots, and maybe less.

True Bubble: ASU, Q, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, St. Cloud, WMU, NE, ND
All these teams need a good weekend to really stay alive. Math says they all could survive not sweeping the weekend, but they take power out of their hands and require help from other teams. This is largely the group that we have to out perform from here on out.

3. Needs Help: Providence, there are likely other teams below that could make an argument for this group but immense help is not the same thing as needs help.

WMU has the following schedule coming.
2 v. Miami
2-3 v. 1st round
2 games in Minny ***possible***
WMU has up to 7 game remaining...regardless of how many we play we need to win 5, the math can work with 1 tie with 4 wins, but that's not favorable math. Remember in Minnesota there are semifinal games, championship game, but also a 3rd place game.
We NEED to win 1 game in Minny. Just getting there and losing two will not work. Also the math says win 5, if we got swept this weekend that would require us to win the tourney, no way around it. If we split this weekend, we still need 4...only way to do that is win the tourney. So we'll know after this if we need to win it all to get in.

St. Cloud is actually in a slightly better place than us because of who they play this week (Duluth) v. us (Miami). Even if we sweep this weekend, St. Cloud will jump us if they sweep.

Also going 2-0 v. Omaha will give us more points than going 2-1 vs. St. Cloud.

The path is tough, but the beauty of it still is, if we win 5 it shouldn't matter what others do. (Especially if we go 5-1 v. 5-2).
Thanks Doo! Was looking forward to your post all week.

Lets sweep Miami this weekend and go from there.
Doo- I also enjoy your posts, keep up the good work.

For those numbers geeks who can't get enough, here's another web site to check out with lots of great numbers/information. Enjoy http://www.playoffstatus.com/nchc-hockey...ities.html
Damn. U Michigan & Ohio St both winning
U Mich scores another, Ohio St scores 2 more, Lowell scores -> Aren't getting any help
Bemidji St up as well.

This really stinks.


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Boston U ahead 2-0 vs Northeastern, so we got one going our way. :)
But we shouldn’t have had to rely on other teams to win for us. Like last year, we blew games against bugs that we shouldn’t have lost and splitting with Omaha last month also hurt.

The way I look at it, take game by game approach and see what happens. Win that next game and I know that’s the message AM is preaching
yep, i guess so long as we can sneak in if we win 5, it doesn't matter, especially when these teams have to start playing themselves in their conference tournaments.
No help from Sparty. U Michigan dominating the series. Ugh. I swear if they sneak in & we're barely left out.......
Getting some help

LSSU beat Bemidji

Goofers beating Notre lame in the 3rd 2-1

But yeah, scUM and the loser buckeyes both swept which doesn’t help either but oh well.

We won both games this weekend and are still hanging in there.

Big time games vs most likely SCSU next weekend. They’re getting beat 5-1 in Duluth right now. If we play like we have been since this run began, we should be fine.
We would be at #11 right now had not the NCHC d-bag refs screwed us over last weekend
CC beating DU 1-0 early
Tomorrow we need to root the hell for ND to beat U Minn.

LSSU beating Bemidji would be huge as well.
If Bemidji loses they will be in a world of hurt to get in as will the loser of the ND/Minn game.

Root for BG to win @ Alaska tonight too.

Not only would a CC win give us third it will boost Pairwise as well. Go CC
IMO both SCSU and Omaha will be tough outs, so who ever it will be will be tough.

Gotta sweep though
Does anybody have the link to the PairWise calculator?
(03-08-2020 09:29 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote: [ -> ]Does anybody have the link to the PairWise calculator?

https://collegehockeyranked.com/tools/pwrcalculator/
(03-08-2020 12:24 PM)Broncodan Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2020 09:29 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote: [ -> ]Does anybody have the link to the PairWise calculator?

https://collegehockeyranked.com/tools/pwrcalculator/
Thanks.

Yeah, ND is huge for us today. If they win, we end the weekend #15.

If ND & Bemidji win today
12) Bemidji St
13) Arizona St
14) Michigan
15) WMU

If ND & Lake St win today
12) Arizona St
13) Michigan
14) Maine
15) WMU
Notre Dame v Minnesota game is on FS2 tonight.
Seems whenever I watch a game in hopes one team loses, they win, so not gonna watch it, as interested as I am in it.

Also, in addition to really hurting Bemidji St, seems like a LSSU win hurts Arizona St, too.
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