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This one is a week away but it looks like it could be mess

The latest poll has Bernie at 25%, Biden at 18%, and everyone else under the 15% magic number
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/polit...s-1957583/

The powerful unions in NV do not like Bernie and Medicare for all, as that would erode their influence amongst members who look to them for health insurance, but Bernie does seem to be connecting with the Hispanic vote.

With the establishment candidates splitting their portion of the vote, Bernie should win this, but will he get his delegates hacked away due to so many others hitting the 15% mark? He needs this poll to be true so he doesnt have to share as many delegates

Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

The white collar suburbanites and the Air Force transplants will likely caucus for the mayor.

(02-14-2020 02:44 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]This one is a week away but it looks like it could be mess

The latest poll has Bernie at 25%, Biden at 18%, and everyone else under the 15% magic number
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/polit...s-1957583/

The powerful unions in NV do not like Bernie and Medicare for all, as that would erode their influence amongst members who look to them for health insurance, but Bernie does seem to be connecting with the Hispanic vote.

With the establishment candidates splitting their portion of the vote, Bernie should win this, but will he get his delegates hacked away due to so many others hitting the 15% mark? He needs this poll to be true so he doesnt have to share as many delegates

I suspect Biden does far worse than that. It's gonna be real interesting to see how CIA Pete and Klob do with non-white voters. With the momentum they've gained by good performances in the first 2 if they don't hit 15% it's gonna pretty much cement neither are nationally viable candidates.

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Karen?

(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

It depends on what you mean by pro-union. When Bernie is pro-union, he doesnt mean they get to keep their healthcare. Bernie was against TPP (as was Trump), which is a pro-union stance.

Bernie believes getting rid of the unions healthcare plan has nothing to do with being pro-union. The unions believe it has everything to do with being pro union.

(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

Not that it would ever pass, but in a perfect world, he would eliminate the medical plans they negotiated and force them onto government insurance. So while he may not be anti-union, his policies fly in the face of much of what they have worked for. They don't think they should have the same insurance as everyone else. They think they deserve better because they are in a union.

Pete spent most of his money on the early races. I think we see Biden drop a bit from the polls but not enough to die.


Bernie in high 20's and everyone else in the teens or <10.

Bernie -------->Pete---> Amy & Biden ------> Warren & Steyer. I think SC will be Elizabeth's swan song if she hits another <10%.

NVM Bloomberg isn't on these yet.

(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Karen?

“Karen” = media buzzword to describe the demographic-type that likes Elizabeth Warren. Does not refer to any specific person.

I got Avenatti finishing ahead of Warren.

(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

It's about the health insurance man

Health insurance is one of the biggest perks of union membership and I would guess the policies arent that bad. Medicare for all takes away that perk and reduces the need for unions membership as the government has replaced the union

(02-14-2020 03:41 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Karen?

“Karen” = media buzzword to describe the demographic-type that likes Elizabeth Warren. Does not refer to any specific person.

gives raisins to kids on Halloween

drives an SUV to carpool her kids to soccer practice... better hope the ref doesn’t make a wrong call because she will sue!

love to use snapagram to post her workout selfies

after a long day of talking to managers and driving her kids around she sits down with her mom friends at book club and drinks lots and LOTS of wine
“oh my god Karen do you really have to talk to the Burger King manager every time they forget to give you a ketchup packet.“

“LOL! Yes!! I have to Facebook and instasnap it to all my friends to make sure everyone knows to watch out LOL!!!”

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Karen



Karen, America's ex-wife

(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Karen?

BOB CUT

(02-14-2020 03:55 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Karen?

BOB CUT

More of a fictitious composite of characteristics typically exhibited by women that sport the reverse helmet cut. Amy fits it to a tee.

(02-14-2020 03:45 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

It's about the health insurance man

Health insurance is one of the biggest perks of union membership and I would guess the policies arent that bad. Medicare for all takes away that perk and reduces the need for unions membership as the government has replaced the union

It actually just takes away the need to fight to keep their health insurance benefits every time it comes up for negotiation, allowing them to instead fight for increased pay or vacation or any other number of valuable things. Also keeps them from having to worry about losing their coverage during a strike.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-a...SKBN1W21TW

Bernie has also pushed harder than anyone against right to work laws and to strengthen and increase the ability to unionize across the country.

https://rewire.news/article/2018/05/15/b...work-laws/

Is McKinsey Pete gonna actually be able to successfully argue he's pro-union? It really is funny how bad the attacks are on Bernie. This one is embarrassingly bad, going after the only guy who's got a proven record of fighting for unions. It's all about attempting to go back to "Bernie Bro's" being mean on Twitter, which when compared to what any of these people would have to face once they go against Trump and the MAGA contingent will look like literal child's play.

(02-14-2020 03:41 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Karen?

“Karen” = media buzzword to describe the demographic-type that likes Elizabeth Warren. Does not refer to any specific person.

Old divorced women?
There aren't a lot of Karens under 50.

(02-14-2020 04:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:45 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.

It's about the health insurance man

Health insurance is one of the biggest perks of union membership and I would guess the policies arent that bad. Medicare for all takes away that perk and reduces the need for unions membership as the government has replaced the union

It actually just takes away the need to fight to keep their health insurance benefits every time it comes up for negotiation, allowing them to instead fight for increased pay or vacation or any other number of valuable things. Also keeps them from having to worry about losing their coverage during a strike.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-a...SKBN1W21TW

Bernie has also pushed harder than anyone against right to work laws and to strengthen and increase the ability to unionize across the country.

https://rewire.news/article/2018/05/15/b...work-laws/

Is McKinsey Pete gonna actually be able to successfully argue he's pro-union? It really is funny how bad the attacks are on Bernie. This one is embarrassingly bad, going after the only guy who's got a proven record of fighting for unions. It's all about attempting to go back to "Bernie Bro's" being mean on Twitter, which when compared to what any of these people would have to face once they go against Trump and the MAGA contingent will look like literal child's play.

I hear ya but its all about need of the union.

If a union argues for higher pay and more vacation, that benefits union and non union employees

Union healthcare is for union members only. Want this super awesome healthcare, join our union. Take that away and why would a non union member join? What else can the union offer them in the here and now?

(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Certainly not
Earle Combs, Mark Koenig, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Bob Meusel,Tony Lazzeri or
Pete Rose, Ken Griffey, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, George Foster, Tony Perez