Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
(02-08-2020 08:32 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: [ -> ]Tubby sucked
Cheers to that. Give me penny 1,000x over...
(02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
(02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
There are maybe 2 posters suggesting Penny won’t succeed. The overall fan base and this board hasn’t jumped to that conclusion.
We have plenty of posters critical of today’s loss. That doesn’t mean we think Penny won’t succeed. He’s Memphis through and through and I believe the basketball program will eventually thrive under his leadership.
Maybe had the coach not run his mouth about all the smoke and national championships only to lose at home to piles of crap like Georgia and USF but whatever. Sure hope Silverfield can keep things rolling to give us some enjoyment because Penny and his underachieving bunch sure don’t.
(02-08-2020 08:42 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
There are maybe 2 posters suggesting Penny won’t succeed. The overall fan base and this board hasn’t jumped to that conclusion.
We have plenty of posters critical of today’s loss. That doesn’t mean we think Penny won’t succeed. He’s Memphis through and through and I believe the basketball program will eventually thrive under his leadership.
I think it is definitely more than 2...
Its been 11 years since we've had a really good team. We haven't been horrible but its been a pretty average decade of Tiger basketball.
(02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
(02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
Our coaching is far superior
(02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
We did have more talent without a doubt...But all of our talent were freshmen.
The only talent that had the ability to dominate with just his physical gifts would have been Precious and he was hampered with fouls the entire game. Every other player you list needs more time.
I am sure UNC has more 4 and 5* than Georgia Tech...But 11-13 Georgia Tech won by 13 in Chapel Hill
Or
How about 9-15 Evansville winning by 3 against UK in lexington (ECU beat Evansville by 17)
(02-08-2020 08:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't set expectations too high too soon...
Because y'all M'fers are ruthless.
If Penny would have brought in the #20 recruiting class everyone would be fine right now.
Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
We did have more talent without a doubt...But all of our talent were freshmen.
The only talent that had the ability to dominate with just his physical gifts would have been Precious and he was hampered with fouls the entire game. Every other player you list needs more time.
I am sure UNC has more 4 and 5* than Georgia Tech...But 11-13 Georgia Tech won by 13 in Chapel Hill
Or
How about 9-15 Evansville winning by 3 against UK in lexington (ECU beat Evansville by 17)
None of this are excusable losses. Looking at the failure of others to justify your own is a losers mentality. I’m not into that. I get that bad losses happen, that is basketball. But that still doesn’t make the loss okay or excusable.
(02-08-2020 08:32 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: [ -> ]Tubby sucked
Tubby's a great coach *
* great at setting low expectations.
(02-08-2020 09:06 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Ya, better player equate to higher expectations... I don’t think any fan base would not have high expectations with the talent sitting on our roster. We just lost to 10-12 South Florida, but ya okay it is unreasonable to expect to beat them on our home court...
Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
We did have more talent without a doubt...But all of our talent were freshmen.
The only talent that had the ability to dominate with just his physical gifts would have been Precious and he was hampered with fouls the entire game. Every other player you list needs more time.
I am sure UNC has more 4 and 5* than Georgia Tech...But 11-13 Georgia Tech won by 13 in Chapel Hill
Or
How about 9-15 Evansville winning by 3 against UK in lexington (ECU beat Evansville by 17)
None of this are excusable losses. Looking at the failure of others to justify your own is a losers mentality. I’m not into that. I get that bad losses happen, that is basketball. But that still doesn’t make the loss okay or excusable.
My point is it is not the end of the world.
And we had a ton of adversity in this game. To say there is no way we should lose is wrong. We were already shorthanded in the front court and this game we essentially had 2 less players.
(02-08-2020 08:43 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe had the coach not run his mouth about all the smoke and national championships only to lose at home to piles of crap like Georgia and USF but whatever. Sure hope Silverfield can keep things rolling to give us some enjoyment because Penny and his underachieving bunch sure don’t.
If you were starting in an automobile race and had a super hot Corvette to drive then you would also feel pretty confident but then if your engine blew up and your back up was a Rambler then you would be an (hell never mind) you would rather ***** and say our Tigers are underachieving.
(02-08-2020 09:36 PM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:43 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe had the coach not run his mouth about all the smoke and national championships only to lose at home to piles of crap like Georgia and USF but whatever. Sure hope Silverfield can keep things rolling to give us some enjoyment because Penny and his underachieving bunch sure don’t.
If you were starting in an automobile race and had a super hot Corvette to drive then you would also feel pretty confident but then if your engine blew up and your back up was a Rambler then you would be an (hell never mind) you would rather ***** and say our Tigers are underachieving.
Go to a raceway and play that and I assure you that drive will be eating a ton of crow. If the engine blows up that is on the owner, especially if there is no backup plan.
(02-08-2020 09:15 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 09:06 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Not unreasonable to expect to win...But you have people suggesting Penny will never succeed because of the expectations from the beginning of this season.
Those people are not even looking at the circumstances surrounding the loss. What is the recruiting class ranked without Wiseman, Dandridge and DJ?
Understanding that this team is without 3 out of its top 5 front court players from the start of the year AND the best frontcourt player is in foul trouble the entire game until he gets hurt...Then the other front court player goes down as well. Anyone who ignores those circumstances is not being fair.
Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
We did have more talent without a doubt...But all of our talent were freshmen.
The only talent that had the ability to dominate with just his physical gifts would have been Precious and he was hampered with fouls the entire game. Every other player you list needs more time.
I am sure UNC has more 4 and 5* than Georgia Tech...But 11-13 Georgia Tech won by 13 in Chapel Hill
Or
How about 9-15 Evansville winning by 3 against UK in lexington (ECU beat Evansville by 17)
None of this are excusable losses. Looking at the failure of others to justify your own is a losers mentality. I’m not into that. I get that bad losses happen, that is basketball. But that still doesn’t make the loss okay or excusable.
My point is it is not the end of the world.
And we had a ton of adversity in this game. To say there is no way we should lose is wrong. We were already shorthanded in the front court and this game we essentially had 2 less players.
Not the end of my world for sure, thank God my life and joy are not dependent on 18-21 year olds playing college basketball.
But for them, this is likely the end of their NCAA tournament dreams unless they win the conference tournament, so it is a major loss, especially considering it was South Florida...
(02-08-2020 09:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 09:15 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 09:06 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2020 08:48 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Don’t know but we still have much better talent than USF without them.
Precious 5*
Lester 4*
Boogie 4*
Lance 4*
Does USF have even one 4* player on their roster?
Alo, Harris, Baugh were probably ranked as high or higher than their best recruit. No excuse for losing to them on our home court.
We did have more talent without a doubt...But all of our talent were freshmen.
The only talent that had the ability to dominate with just his physical gifts would have been Precious and he was hampered with fouls the entire game. Every other player you list needs more time.
I am sure UNC has more 4 and 5* than Georgia Tech...But 11-13 Georgia Tech won by 13 in Chapel Hill
Or
How about 9-15 Evansville winning by 3 against UK in lexington (ECU beat Evansville by 17)
None of this are excusable losses. Looking at the failure of others to justify your own is a losers mentality. I’m not into that. I get that bad losses happen, that is basketball. But that still doesn’t make the loss okay or excusable.
My point is it is not the end of the world.
And we had a ton of adversity in this game. To say there is no way we should lose is wrong. We were already shorthanded in the front court and this game we essentially had 2 less players.
Not the end of my world for sure, thank God my life and joy are not dependent on 18-21 year olds playing college basketball.
But for them, this is likely the end of their NCAA tournament dreams unless they win the conference tournament, so it is a major loss, especially considering it was South Florida...
I think we're just in different places...
I don't think this team is very good at all worth the roster they put out there today. Especially with precious in foul trouble.
Is it a bad loss for Memphis to lose to south Florida... sure.
But the roster just isn't good without precious. People can debate all day why that is... but it is not good regardless of the number of stars on the roster