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Wonder what the Big 12 commish thought about the Tiger takeover in Dallas????

(12-29-2019 05:49 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder what the Big 12 commish thought about the Tiger takeover in Dallas????

I'm guessing the legit never thought about it.

We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

We may not have been on their radar, but I felt like yesterday, when compared to what PSU had, we played like a Big12 team - good exciting offense and shaky defense.

Someday, maybe they will regret dissing us like that. I can dream, can’t I?

I see Memphis and 3 or so other teams in the reconstituted Big 12 at the expiration of their media contract in 2025. Us, UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, maybe SMU, maybe BYU.

(12-29-2019 05:49 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder what the Big 12 commish thought about the Tiger takeover in Dallas????

They were probably too busy thinking up ideas as to why their champion got skull drug like an FCS team yesterday.

I love it when people speak in absolute language when you don’t know anything either way. The reason you don’t know is there is not an answer to the question yet. College football conferences most likely will become fluid again at some point. It’s not anything to get our hopes up excessively about, but saying it will never happen is equally uninformed. Just because a bully punched us in the nose doesn’t make me walk away. I will fight until I’m dead.

(12-30-2019 12:05 AM)msu651981 Wrote: [ -> ]I love it when people speak in absolute language when you don’t know anything either way. The reason you don’t know is there is not an answer to the question yet. College football conferences most likely will become fluid again at some point. It’s not anything to get our hopes up excessively about, but saying it will never happen is equally uninformed. Just because a bully punched us in the nose doesn’t make me walk away. I will fight until I’m dead.

Memphis will end up P5 or whatever they call it then some day.

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

Completely not true, but think whatever you want.

(12-30-2019 01:13 AM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

Completely not true, but think whatever you want.

what is incorrect?

are we presently in the Big 12? Did we make their final list of candidates? I still chuckle at the folks who say we hired Tubby to "help us with our case for b12". All that got us was a cratered basketball program. People can claim to be insiders and tell us all the back stories they want, but the fact of the matter is we are in the AAC, not the B12 and our best hope for making a football playoff is when it expands to 8. The AAC champ should get that G5 bid most years.

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

We weren't on their radar at the time because we had an abysmal football program at the time (really bad timing). Might be a different story today - both our FB and BB programs would compete well in the current Big 12.

(12-30-2019 09:07 AM)presskh Wrote: [ -> ]We weren't on their radar at the time because we had an abysmal football program at the time (really bad timing). Might be a different story today - both our FB and BB programs would compete well in the current Big 12.

At the time of the final decision, we were good in football.

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar.

Wrong

Quote:We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates.

And UConn did, so that should tell you that the "final" list was manure. Here's a headsup for you; without Memphis, nobody else was getting into the B12.

(12-30-2019 08:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-30-2019 01:13 AM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

Completely not true, but think whatever you want.

what is incorrect?

are we presently in the Big 12? Did we make their final list of candidates? I still chuckle at the folks who say we hired Tubby to "help us with our case for b12". All that got us was a cratered basketball program. People can claim to be insiders and tell us all the back stories they want, but the fact of the matter is we are in the AAC, not the B12 and our best hope for making a football playoff is when it expands to 8. The AAC champ should get that G5 bid most years.

Can't argue which league we are currently in, so you are correct we are in AAC and not Big 12, you are wrong that we were never on their radar and that final list was media crap, we were very close at one point to being in. Believe or not don't really care

1) Big 12 Memphis and Cincy were being courted by Oklahoma to round out B12
2) Both Memphis and Cincy spent time lots of time with B12 people we were told to prepare to get an invite
3) Once the news was put out there ESPN got involved
4) The ESPN contract stated they had to pay for two more teams if the B12 expanded
5) It became a circus with lots of politics involved at this point
6) Cincy loses their President, so in the circus with all of the "other teams" involved Cincy had to go back in since they had a new president
7) ESPN pitched to the B12 "we will pay you the money for the two teams and split it among the existing teams but do not expand"

Is where we are today.

Well, sometimes the obvious gets overlooked. Memphis rankings in the two major sports has to be impressive. Then throw in our fan support and a great place to visit and it seems like we have proved that we should be in a top 5 conference. You can't look at our success and pretend it doesn't exist. Also, the near term future success looks pretty good too. So, we are not a flash in the pan.

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

There was never a "final cut of 12". That's ESPN fabricated terminology. ESPN got confirmation from 11 of the candidates (including Rice, Tulane, UConn, etc.) that they had interviewed. Memphis did not confirm or deny, as we were still trying to confidentially salvage something. So ESPN coined the "final 11" candidates term, and ran with the story that we were cut.

It was obvious that we were in the top 6 candidates being seriously considered.

(12-30-2019 12:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]1) Big 12 Memphis and Cincy were being courted by Oklahoma to round out B12
2) Both Memphis and Cincy spent time lots of time with B12 people we were told to prepare to get an invite
3) Once the news was put out there ESPN got involved
4) The ESPN contract stated they had to pay for two more teams if the B12 expanded
5) It became a circus with lots of politics involved at this point
6) Cincy loses their President, so in the circus with all of the "other teams" involved Cincy had to go back in since they had a new president
7) ESPN pitched to the B12 "we will pay you the money for the two teams and split it among the existing teams but do not expand"

Is where we are today.

The low self esteem crowd is going to disagree with this post.

We have to do exactly what you stated for 3 to 4 years in a row: then WE will have MORE than 1 P5 conference that will come knocking!!!!

The keyword is being Consistent year in year out!

(12-30-2019 05:12 PM)DallasTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Well, sometimes the obvious gets overlooked. Memphis rankings in the two major sports has to be impressive. Then throw in our fan support and a great place to visit and it seems like we have proved that we should be in a top 5 conference. You can't look at our success and pretend it doesn't exist. Also, the near term future success looks pretty good too. So, we are not a flash in the pan.

(12-30-2019 12:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]1) Big 12 Memphis and Cincy were being courted by Oklahoma to round out B12
2) Both Memphis and Cincy spent time lots of time with B12 people we were told to prepare to get an invite
3) Once the news was put out there ESPN got involved
4) The ESPN contract stated they had to pay for two more teams if the B12 expanded
5) It became a circus with lots of politics involved at this point
6) Cincy loses their President, so in the circus with all of the "other teams" involved Cincy had to go back in since they had a new president
7) ESPN pitched to the B12 "we will pay you the money for the two teams and split it among the existing teams but do not expand"

Is where we are today.

That's right.

(12-30-2019 05:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-29-2019 08:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We aren’t and never were on the big 12’s radar. We didn’t even make their final cut of 12 possible expansion candidates. Doesn’t make me enjoy this weekend any less. Our best bet is the AAC continues to get stronger and hope the playoff goes to 8 with a spot reserved for the top g5 team.

There was never a "final cut of 12". That's ESPN fabricated terminology. ESPN got confirmation from 11 of the candidates (including Rice, Tulane, UConn, etc.) that they had interviewed. Memphis did not confirm or deny, as we were still trying to confidentially salvage something. So ESPN coined the "final 11" candidates term, and ran with the story that we were cut.

It was obvious that we were in the top 6 candidates being seriously considered.

Actually, there is truth to the fact that we weren't in the final 12, but that was because we took ourselves out of the running. FedEx had helped sweeten the pot with the bowl game and a lot of advertising as well as agreeing to make us whole in different ways to make up for the money being staggered for the first few years.

The Big12 came back asking for other stuff, not a whole lot more but insulting nonetheless since we were willing to do literally tens of millions more and brought much more to the table than Cincinnati and UCF were willing to. The other major thorny issue is that none of the members, not even any of the Texas schools, wanted Houston.

After the list of 12 came out and things settled down, and things were smoothed out, we would have been invited if ESPN hadn't intervened.