...that matches the top 2 G5 champs (excluding the team selected to the NY6). Play it at 10am January 1
I would watch Boise St. vs. App State. These are good football teams
(12-09-2019 03:28 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]...that matches the top 2 G5 champs (excluding the team selected to the NY6). Play it at 10am January 1
I would watch Boise St. vs. App State. These are good football teams
I always thought that would be a good idea but it also starts a separation from the P5. If you do one G5 championship bowl, then a second would come a long. And then its a G5 playoff.
Memphis to the Ny6
Boise vs. Miami (OH)
App St. vs. FAU
(12-09-2019 03:28 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]...that matches the top 2 G5 champs (excluding the team selected to the NY6). Play it at 10am January 1
I would watch Boise St. vs. App State. These are good football teams
You could do two bowls to account for all four of the non-NY6 champs. But the hangup's going to be that the G5s are trying to match their best teams with P5 opponents whenever possible. Even without the Chris Petersen tie-in, my guess is that Boise State fans are more excited about playing Washington than they would be App, even if the latter is objectively a better team (plus they can beef over which mountains are better).
When the AAC sends their champ to the NY6 -- they wouldn't be dealing with the other 4 Conf Champ matchups anyway.
If the AAC doesn't make the NY6 -- they can't "complain" about said matchups.
This year:
Miami-OH vs FAU
Boise vs App-St
I think marketed as "MAC vs CUSA Champs" and "Mountain West vs Sun Belt Champs" -- would draw attention to it.
I think the AAC wouldn't like this because their Champ isn't going to go to NY6 Every year. Hence, they'd be in this dual every so often -- and pout. :)
"No Johnny, you're a G5 kid. Your coach went to the P5 as you guys did well. But you're staying, son. G5 Forever."
Not sure about the need for this, but it would be great to match some of these champs up sometimes.
E.g., I think App State vs FAU this year would be a very entertaining bowl.
This would require that every G5 conference except the AAC declare that conference to be a de facto P6, and superior to all of them. I don't see that happening. I also don't see the AAC giving up a bowl matchup with a real P5 conference, or Boise State giving up a P5 bowl opponent if they don't get the NY6 invite.
If those 4 conferences decide they want to do this, then they should just ask the NCAA to put them in a third DI subdivision where they can have their own bowl playoff series.
The Liberty Bowl tried this with its MWC V CUSA Champ matchup
There is no money in who is the best non power conference school or else the FCS playoffs would be a hit
The AAC and MWC can get P5s for their champs—the MAC, C-USA, and SBC struggle. Those three should create a pool of their top 2 teams.
Top 2 champs play
3rd champ plays the best runner up not from their own conference
Remaining two runner ups play
The MW is waiting for the LA Bowl details. It may be #4 team after the CFP.
This last LV bowl matchup will have Wash as #5 PAC team probably because of the UW/BSU coach Pete storyline..otherwise it would be 6-6 WSU.
If we can’t improve the PAC pick, then I want to play the champ of some other conference.
The Arizona Bowl next year gets upgraded to MW#2 vs MAC #2.. maybe MAC#1.
I don't think this is the worst idea but only if it gets into the NY6 fold with more money than an average bowl game. It does go back and remind me of the "Separate But Equal Bowl" between Boise St vs. TCU in the 2009 or 2010 Fiesta Bowl.
Crazy idea that I know will never happen. Each G5 Champ is paired with a P5 team that has a .500 or better conference record.
(12-09-2019 03:35 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2019 03:28 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]...that matches the top 2 G5 champs (excluding the team selected to the NY6). Play it at 10am January 1
I would watch Boise St. vs. App State. These are good football teams
I always thought that would be a good idea but it also starts a separation from the P5. If you do one G5 championship bowl, then a second would come a long. And then its a G5 playoff.
Memphis to the Ny6
Boise vs. Miami (OH)
App St. vs. FAU
Which is why you dont do it in the way proposed in the OP. You do it like the CFP. You create 3 games specifically designed to house the 4 G5 champs not going to the access bowl.
#1 G5 champ---access bowl, just like we do now.
#2 G5 Champ vs #3-#5 P5 (payout 4 million) in a new G5 owned bowl
#3 G5 Champ vs #3-5 P5 (payout 4 million) in a new G5 owned bowl
#4 G5 Champ vs #5 G Champ (payout 2 million) in a new G5 owned bowl
The G5 participant in every one of the these bowls receives 1 million and the P5 participants each receive 3 million. The G5 would own all 3 bowls and would receive and split any profit generated by the bowls. The cost--assuming the bowls brought in nothing----would be 10 million a year. This would be paid for by reducing the performance pool of CFP money from about 19 million to 9 million.
More likely, these bowls would make a nice profit. So, after a couple of years, there would no longer be a need for the G5 to continue to contribute 10 million a year to G5 Champions Bowl Fund. At the very least, the bowl revenue would offset almost all the costs of running them. Thus, the annual contribution could be paired back to whatever is appropriate (in the unlikely scenario where the bowls continually run at a deficit). If the bowls generate an annual profit, then the contribution from the G5 conferences can be completely stopped and the bowls can become a small revenue stream for the G5.
You all realize this could not occur until after 2025? So about 2023 is probably when will know what will happen with the CFP and bowls after 2025.
(12-09-2019 08:01 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: [ -> ]You all realize this could not occur until after 2025? So about 2023 is probably when will know what will happen with the CFP and bowls after 2025.
Yup. The ideal opportunity was last year during the bowl cycle renegotiations.
(12-09-2019 08:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2019 08:01 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: [ -> ]You all realize this could not occur until after 2025? So about 2023 is probably when will know what will happen with the CFP and bowls after 2025.
Yup. The ideal opportunity was last year during the bowl cycle renegotiations.
That is why I don't get how fans don't realize it is the one-two years before the final bowl season and TV contacts is when the records are most important.
One reason why I was glad this was what was an off year for the ACC, contracts all signed. The irony, what people are calling a bad year for the ACC five years ago would have been a banner year. Top 4 team in the running for a 2nd straight national champ, fill 11 bowl slots and two teams in the NY6. Funny how the view from 5 years ago of great to is not a bad conference year can be so drastic.
Personally, I think the ACC will rebound next year. A lot of youth and most the new coaches are on the rise. I am definately hoping for a rebound for my wolfpack for having to play so many freshmem this season. Only time will tell.
The AAC has about 4 bowls vs. power conferences annually, give or take. Granted they're usually lower picks from the other conferences, but I am not sure the AAC will move off of this. It does make sense for those conferences that don't have power conf. opponents in bowl games, though.
I think if they did one year they took 2 G5 schools and put them in a NY6 bowl in the Fiesta. Boise State from the WAC with no losses vs unbeaten TCU from the MWC. It would be nice to see Boise State vs Memphis in the NY6 bowl. We could see who is the better team of the two like we did with TCUvs Boise that year.
(12-09-2019 08:25 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]The AAC has about 4 bowls vs. power conferences annually, give or take. Granted they're usually lower picks from the other conferences, but I am not sure the AAC will move off of this. It does make sense for those conferences that don't have power conf. opponents in bowl games, though.
Thats why something like I suggested might actually get some traction for the AAC. It would create 2 higher end bowls against potentially ranked P5 teams. If the AAC champ doesnt get the access bowl---they would have a pretty decent shot at one of those 2 P5 games in the "G5 Chamnpions Bowl" pool. Remember, only the 3rd bowl that I proposed is a G5 vs G5 game. At the very least---its a better back plan for the AAC champ than the conference currently has.
