Quote:The Navy has scheduled a hearing for Wednesday on removing Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher from the Navy SEALs just days after President Trump restored his rank and pay grade after his long ordeal over war crime allegations ended earlier this year when he was acquitted of murder by a court martial but convicted of the minor offense of posing with an ISIS enemy’s corpse for a photo.
CBS News first broke the story Tuesday. Later Tuesday night the Navy Times reported Gallagher, through his attorney, had filed an complaint with the Inspector General for the Department of Defense about the handling of his case that, among other charges, accuses the head of the Navy SEALs, Rear Admiral Collin Green, of using contemptuous words against President Trump. The complaint however, does not specify the words used by Green.
Excerpt from the CBS report.
In what will undoubtedly be interpreted by many as an act of defiance against President Trump, the top Navy SEAL, Rear Admiral Collin Green, will notify Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher and three officers that their case is being sent to a review board which could end in their expulsion from the SEALs.
“This is a review of their suitability to be a SEAL,” a Navy officer said. The action would come less than a week after Mr. Trump intervened in the military justice case against Gallagher by ordering him to be restored to the rank of chief petty officer, despite his conviction for posing for a photograph with a dead ISIS prisoner.
…Although the action is being taken by Green, who is the head of the Navy Special Warfare Command, it has the backing of both the secretary of the Navy and the chief of Naval Operations, this officer said. The officer explained that this is an administrative action which was not affected by the president’s legal action last week.
The other officers are Lieutenant Commander Robert Breisch, who was the troop commander; Lieutenant Jacob Portier, who was the platoon officer in charge and reported to Breisch; and Lieutenant Thomas MacNeil, who was the platoon assistant officer in charge.
ABC News detailed the process:
Green has the ability to pull Gallagher’s Trident without a review board because he is an enlisted SEAL. However, the SEAL commander chose to provide Gallagher with the board process, which is typically reserved for officers. Under the review board, three of Gallagher’s SEAL peers will review a packet of information about his case, as well as Gallagher’s rebuttal statement.
The board will then make a recommendation to Green, who can choose to endorse it before sending it to the Navy’s Personnel Command for action. The process could likely take one month, one official said.
…Since 2011, 154 SEAL Tridents or Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman (SWCC) pins have been revoked for various reasons.
Navy Times excerpt
His pay grade restored by President Donald J. Trump on Friday, Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher has filed an inspector general’s complaint against the Navy’s top SEAL, accusing him of uttering contemptuous statements about the commander in chief.
In the works for four months, the move came hours before a Wednesday morning meeting with Naval Special Warfare superiors in California, who are expected to inform Gallagher that Naval Special Warfare commander Rear Adm. Collin Green has convened a Trident Review Board to take the coveted SEAL qualification pin away from the special operator.
Green seems to have mustered the support of his uniformed chain of command to administratively punish Gallagher, 40, even if it’s perceived as defiant to the White House.
“Chief of Naval Operations, Adm. Mike Gilday, supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green,” said Gilday’s spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, in an email to Navy Times.
Cmdr. Sarah Higgins, spokesperson for Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer, echoed that he also “supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green.”
Declining to comment on the IG complaint filed against her command, Naval Special Warfare spokesperson Capt. Tamara Lawrence called allegations that Green uttered contemptuous words about the president “patently false.”
Lawyers for Gallagher and fellow SEAL Lt. Jacob X. “Jake” Portier told the Navy Times that Green and the Navy brass supporting this should resign or be fired.
“The president has spoken on the punishment of Eddie Gallagher,” said the SEAL’s civilian attorney, Timothy Parlatore, a former surface warfare officer. “A two-star admiral should not be stepping in to substitute the judgment of his commander in chief. “This is a terrible precedent to send and the commander in chief should take swift and decisive action against Rear Adm. Green.
“As for those in his chain of command who appear to be supporting Green, there needs to be a wholesale change in leadership. If Navy leadership can’t accept the commander in chief’s guidance, then they all should leave.
“There’s a long tradition in the military. You don’t rebel. You resign.”
…“Rear Adm. Green is undermining the office of the president of the United States,” Portier’s defense attorney, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III, told Navy Times. “Rear Adm. Green should be the first one to place his trident on the table and resign before he is fired.
“Flag officers cannot challenge the president. It is an act of insubordination and a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
Gallgher’s IG complaint does not specify the contemptuous words Green is accused of uttering against President Trump. However it also notes a tweet by Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, the Navy’s Chief of Information, acknowledging Trump’s orders regarding Gallagher that was perceived as insulting to Trump and Gallagher, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.”
Mutiny? Navy Brass Set to Demote Eddie Gallagher From SEALs After Trump Restored Rank; IG Complaint Accuses Admiral of Contempt for President
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The Navy has scheduled a hearing for Wednesday on removing Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher from the Navy SEALs just days after President Trump restored his rank and pay grade after his long ordeal over war crime allegations ended earlier this year when he was acquitted of murder by a court martial but convicted of the minor offense of posing with an ISIS enemy’s corpse for a photo.
CBS News first broke the story Tuesday. Later Tuesday night the Navy Times reported Gallagher, through his attorney, had filed an complaint with the Inspector General for the Department of Defense about the handling of his case that, among other charges, accuses the head of the Navy SEALs, Rear Admiral Collin Green, of using contemptuous words against President Trump. The complaint however, does not specify the words used by Green.
Excerpt from the CBS report.
In what will undoubtedly be interpreted by many as an act of defiance against President Trump, the top Navy SEAL, Rear Admiral Collin Green, will notify Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher and three officers that their case is being sent to a review board which could end in their expulsion from the SEALs.
“This is a review of their suitability to be a SEAL,” a Navy officer said. The action would come less than a week after Mr. Trump intervened in the military justice case against Gallagher by ordering him to be restored to the rank of chief petty officer, despite his conviction for posing for a photograph with a dead ISIS prisoner.
…Although the action is being taken by Green, who is the head of the Navy Special Warfare Command, it has the backing of both the secretary of the Navy and the chief of Naval Operations, this officer said. The officer explained that this is an administrative action which was not affected by the president’s legal action last week.
The other officers are Lieutenant Commander Robert Breisch, who was the troop commander; Lieutenant Jacob Portier, who was the platoon officer in charge and reported to Breisch; and Lieutenant Thomas MacNeil, who was the platoon assistant officer in charge.
ABC News detailed the process:
Green has the ability to pull Gallagher’s Trident without a review board because he is an enlisted SEAL. However, the SEAL commander chose to provide Gallagher with the board process, which is typically reserved for officers. Under the review board, three of Gallagher’s SEAL peers will review a packet of information about his case, as well as Gallagher’s rebuttal statement.
The board will then make a recommendation to Green, who can choose to endorse it before sending it to the Navy’s Personnel Command for action. The process could likely take one month, one official said.
…Since 2011, 154 SEAL Tridents or Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman (SWCC) pins have been revoked for various reasons.
Navy Times excerpt
His pay grade restored by President Donald J. Trump on Friday, Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher has filed an inspector general’s complaint against the Navy’s top SEAL, accusing him of uttering contemptuous statements about the commander in chief.
In the works for four months, the move came hours before a Wednesday morning meeting with Naval Special Warfare superiors in California, who are expected to inform Gallagher that Naval Special Warfare commander Rear Adm. Collin Green has convened a Trident Review Board to take the coveted SEAL qualification pin away from the special operator.
Green seems to have mustered the support of his uniformed chain of command to administratively punish Gallagher, 40, even if it’s perceived as defiant to the White House.
“Chief of Naval Operations, Adm. Mike Gilday, supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green,” said Gilday’s spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, in an email to Navy Times.
Cmdr. Sarah Higgins, spokesperson for Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer, echoed that he also “supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green.”
Declining to comment on the IG complaint filed against her command, Naval Special Warfare spokesperson Capt. Tamara Lawrence called allegations that Green uttered contemptuous words about the president “patently false.”
Lawyers for Gallagher and fellow SEAL Lt. Jacob X. “Jake” Portier told the Navy Times that Green and the Navy brass supporting this should resign or be fired.
“The president has spoken on the punishment of Eddie Gallagher,” said the SEAL’s civilian attorney, Timothy Parlatore, a former surface warfare officer. “A two-star admiral should not be stepping in to substitute the judgment of his commander in chief. “This is a terrible precedent to send and the commander in chief should take swift and decisive action against Rear Adm. Green.
“As for those in his chain of command who appear to be supporting Green, there needs to be a wholesale change in leadership. If Navy leadership can’t accept the commander in chief’s guidance, then they all should leave.
“There’s a long tradition in the military. You don’t rebel. You resign.”
…“Rear Adm. Green is undermining the office of the president of the United States,” Portier’s defense attorney, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III, told Navy Times. “Rear Adm. Green should be the first one to place his trident on the table and resign before he is fired.
“Flag officers cannot challenge the president. It is an act of insubordination and a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
End excerpts. Please read the entire Navy Times article at this link.
Gallgher’s IG complaint does not specify the contemptuous words Green is accused of uttering against President Trump. However it also notes a tweet by Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, the Navy’s Chief of Information, acknowledging Trump’s orders regarding Gallagher that was perceived as insulting to Trump and Gallagher, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.”
Excerpts from Gallagher’s IG complaint:
IIX. MISCONDUCT AFTER POTUS INTERVENTION
On Friday, November 14, 2019, the Commander in Chief announced that he was restoring SOC Gallagher’s rank. While this was a controversial decision, certain elements become quite open in their contempt for the President’s exercise of his lawful authority.
First, CHINFO sent out an undeniably contemptuous and snarky tweet, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.” This tweet was universally received as being a passive aggressive statement of disagreement, but grudging acceptance. If any subordinate officer passed on orders from their superior in this fashion, he would be immediately fired – “As the commander of this ship, the CO has the authority to order us to do maintenance on our equipment. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it”
Second, and more sinister, is that we have learned that on Monday morning, November 18, 2019, RADM Green assembled a staff meeting and made clear his contempt of the President and disagreement with the President’s decision, before declaring that he intended to remove SOC Gallagher’s trident anyway.
The White House could not have been clearer in its statement:
“Before the prosecution of Special Warfare Operator First Class Edward Gallagher, he had been selected for promotion to Senior Chief, awarded a Bronze Star with a “V” for valor, and assigned to an important position in the Navy as an instructor. Though ultimately acquitted on all of the most serious charges, he was stripped of these honors as he awaited his trial and its outcome. Given his service to our Nation, a promotion back to the rank and pay grade of Chief Petty Officer is justified.”
It is incomprehensible to understand how, given the Commander in Chief’s clear guidance that he felt the punishment was too severe for such a minor offense, how RAMD Green thinks it is appropriate to countermand this and increase the punishment. Moreover, no flag officer should ever be speaking contemptuously of the Commander in Chief in front of his subordinates.
Link
The President can fire him. And he should. Time to purge the Military of ALL rino, deepstaters & oblunder appointees.
(11-20-2019 04:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]In what will undoubtedly be interpreted by many as an act of defiance against President Trump, the top Navy SEAL, Rear Admiral Collin Green, will notify Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher and three officers that their case is being sent to a review board which could end in their expulsion from the SEALs.
Call the SOB to the White House and fire his ass.
Quote:Although the action is being taken by Green, who is the head of the Navy Special Warfare Command, it has the backing of both the secretary of the Navy and the chief of Naval Operations, this officer said.
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“Chief of Naval Operations, Adm. Mike Gilday, supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green,” said Gilday’s spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, in an email to Navy Times.
Fire their asses too.
They may feel the guy is a detriment to the SEALS. As long as they aren't taking away pay, they have the right to do that.
Some questions about the admiral though. Obama put a bunch of sorry officers in. Maybe he's ok. Maybe he's defying the commander in chief. Don't know enough about the situation. But if they want to remove the guy from the SEALS, the president should not intervene.
Now I'm fine with the president reversing an excessive penalty over that photo. It was not good judgement, but didn't deserve what he got.
What has happened during the Obama administration is that military promotions became more about adherence to political doctrine than about professional competence. It has been written about in professional literature, though more implied than stated directly, for reasons that should be obvious. So the flag/general officer suite is filled with more SJWs than with Ws. God forbid we end up in some kind of peer war, with leaders who can't even keep our destroyers from being run into by merchant ships.
(11-20-2019 05:07 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]What has happened during the Obama administration is that military promotions became more about adherence to political doctrine than about professional competence. It has been written about in professional literature, though more implied tat stated directly, for reasons that should be obvious. So the flag/general officer suite is filled with more SJWs than with Ws. God forbid we end up in some kind of peer war, with leaders who can't even keep our destroyers from being run into by merchant ships.
This.
These days (and there's always been some element of this) if you have climbed the ladder to reach a level such as Rr.Adm, it is very likely you are more Pol than you are battle-hardened, seasoned Vet.
Anyone that would have agreed, often seemingly gleefully, with half the hare-brained, cockamamie schit that came through the zerO "Office of social justice and social programmeing" needs two things:
1. To be removed from office and service at whatever cost, even if they go out ruining the paint on the door jamb from clinging on so hard.
2. Have their heads examined.
After that? Free to go wander about the wilderness like the Homey. Funny, he's been awfully quiet of late, no?
(11-20-2019 05:23 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ] (11-20-2019 05:07 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]What has happened during the Obama administration is that military promotions became more about adherence to political doctrine than about professional competence. It has been written about in professional literature, though more implied tat stated directly, for reasons that should be obvious. So the flag/general officer suite is filled with more SJWs than with Ws. God forbid we end up in some kind of peer war, with leaders who can't even keep our destroyers from being run into by merchant ships.
This.
These days (and there's always been some element of this) if you have climbed the ladder to reach a level such as Rr.Adm, it is very likely you are more Pol than you are battle-hardened, seasoned Vet.
Anyone that would have agreed, often seemingly gleefully, with half the hare-brained, cockamamie schit that came through the zerO "Office of social justice and social programmeing" needs two things:
1. To be removed from office and service at whatever cost, even if they go out ruining the paint on the door jamb from clinging on so hard.
2. Have their heads examined.
After that? Free to go wander about the wilderness like the Homey. Funny, he's been awfully quiet of late, no?
Really.
(11-20-2019 05:07 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]What has happened during the Obama administration is that military promotions became more about adherence to political doctrine than about professional competence. It has been written about in professional literature, though more implied tat stated directly, for reasons that should be obvious. So the flag/general officer suite is filled with more SJWs than with Ws. God forbid we end up in some kind of peer war, with leaders who can't even keep our destroyers from being run into by merchant ships.
Same thing happened during the Clinton Administration...they lost a ton of great officers and NCO’s during the political/financial purge of the mid 1990’s
(11-20-2019 04:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:The Navy has scheduled a hearing for Wednesday on removing Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher from the Navy SEALs just days after President Trump restored his rank and pay grade after his long ordeal over war crime allegations ended earlier this year when he was acquitted of murder by a court martial but convicted of the minor offense of posing with an ISIS enemy’s corpse for a photo.
CBS News first broke the story Tuesday. Later Tuesday night the Navy Times reported Gallagher, through his attorney, had filed an complaint with the Inspector General for the Department of Defense about the handling of his case that, among other charges, accuses the head of the Navy SEALs, Rear Admiral Collin Green, of using contemptuous words against President Trump. The complaint however, does not specify the words used by Green.
Excerpt from the CBS report.
In what will undoubtedly be interpreted by many as an act of defiance against President Trump, the top Navy SEAL, Rear Admiral Collin Green, will notify Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher and three officers that their case is being sent to a review board which could end in their expulsion from the SEALs.
“This is a review of their suitability to be a SEAL,” a Navy officer said. The action would come less than a week after Mr. Trump intervened in the military justice case against Gallagher by ordering him to be restored to the rank of chief petty officer, despite his conviction for posing for a photograph with a dead ISIS prisoner.
…Although the action is being taken by Green, who is the head of the Navy Special Warfare Command, it has the backing of both the secretary of the Navy and the chief of Naval Operations, this officer said. The officer explained that this is an administrative action which was not affected by the president’s legal action last week.
The other officers are Lieutenant Commander Robert Breisch, who was the troop commander; Lieutenant Jacob Portier, who was the platoon officer in charge and reported to Breisch; and Lieutenant Thomas MacNeil, who was the platoon assistant officer in charge.
ABC News detailed the process:
Green has the ability to pull Gallagher’s Trident without a review board because he is an enlisted SEAL. However, the SEAL commander chose to provide Gallagher with the board process, which is typically reserved for officers. Under the review board, three of Gallagher’s SEAL peers will review a packet of information about his case, as well as Gallagher’s rebuttal statement.
The board will then make a recommendation to Green, who can choose to endorse it before sending it to the Navy’s Personnel Command for action. The process could likely take one month, one official said.
…Since 2011, 154 SEAL Tridents or Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman (SWCC) pins have been revoked for various reasons.
Navy Times excerpt
His pay grade restored by President Donald J. Trump on Friday, Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher has filed an inspector general’s complaint against the Navy’s top SEAL, accusing him of uttering contemptuous statements about the commander in chief.
In the works for four months, the move came hours before a Wednesday morning meeting with Naval Special Warfare superiors in California, who are expected to inform Gallagher that Naval Special Warfare commander Rear Adm. Collin Green has convened a Trident Review Board to take the coveted SEAL qualification pin away from the special operator.
Green seems to have mustered the support of his uniformed chain of command to administratively punish Gallagher, 40, even if it’s perceived as defiant to the White House.
“Chief of Naval Operations, Adm. Mike Gilday, supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green,” said Gilday’s spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, in an email to Navy Times.
Cmdr. Sarah Higgins, spokesperson for Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer, echoed that he also “supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green.”
Declining to comment on the IG complaint filed against her command, Naval Special Warfare spokesperson Capt. Tamara Lawrence called allegations that Green uttered contemptuous words about the president “patently false.”
Lawyers for Gallagher and fellow SEAL Lt. Jacob X. “Jake” Portier told the Navy Times that Green and the Navy brass supporting this should resign or be fired.
“The president has spoken on the punishment of Eddie Gallagher,” said the SEAL’s civilian attorney, Timothy Parlatore, a former surface warfare officer. “A two-star admiral should not be stepping in to substitute the judgment of his commander in chief. “This is a terrible precedent to send and the commander in chief should take swift and decisive action against Rear Adm. Green.
“As for those in his chain of command who appear to be supporting Green, there needs to be a wholesale change in leadership. If Navy leadership can’t accept the commander in chief’s guidance, then they all should leave.
“There’s a long tradition in the military. You don’t rebel. You resign.”
…“Rear Adm. Green is undermining the office of the president of the United States,” Portier’s defense attorney, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III, told Navy Times. “Rear Adm. Green should be the first one to place his trident on the table and resign before he is fired.
“Flag officers cannot challenge the president. It is an act of insubordination and a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
Gallgher’s IG complaint does not specify the contemptuous words Green is accused of uttering against President Trump. However it also notes a tweet by Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, the Navy’s Chief of Information, acknowledging Trump’s orders regarding Gallagher that was perceived as insulting to Trump and Gallagher, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.”
Mutiny? Navy Brass Set to Demote Eddie Gallagher From SEALs After Trump Restored Rank; IG Complaint Accuses Admiral of Contempt for President
Avatar by Kristinn Taylor November 20, 2019 371 Comments
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The Navy has scheduled a hearing for Wednesday on removing Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher from the Navy SEALs just days after President Trump restored his rank and pay grade after his long ordeal over war crime allegations ended earlier this year when he was acquitted of murder by a court martial but convicted of the minor offense of posing with an ISIS enemy’s corpse for a photo.
CBS News first broke the story Tuesday. Later Tuesday night the Navy Times reported Gallagher, through his attorney, had filed an complaint with the Inspector General for the Department of Defense about the handling of his case that, among other charges, accuses the head of the Navy SEALs, Rear Admiral Collin Green, of using contemptuous words against President Trump. The complaint however, does not specify the words used by Green.
Excerpt from the CBS report.
In what will undoubtedly be interpreted by many as an act of defiance against President Trump, the top Navy SEAL, Rear Admiral Collin Green, will notify Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher and three officers that their case is being sent to a review board which could end in their expulsion from the SEALs.
“This is a review of their suitability to be a SEAL,” a Navy officer said. The action would come less than a week after Mr. Trump intervened in the military justice case against Gallagher by ordering him to be restored to the rank of chief petty officer, despite his conviction for posing for a photograph with a dead ISIS prisoner.
…Although the action is being taken by Green, who is the head of the Navy Special Warfare Command, it has the backing of both the secretary of the Navy and the chief of Naval Operations, this officer said. The officer explained that this is an administrative action which was not affected by the president’s legal action last week.
The other officers are Lieutenant Commander Robert Breisch, who was the troop commander; Lieutenant Jacob Portier, who was the platoon officer in charge and reported to Breisch; and Lieutenant Thomas MacNeil, who was the platoon assistant officer in charge.
ABC News detailed the process:
Green has the ability to pull Gallagher’s Trident without a review board because he is an enlisted SEAL. However, the SEAL commander chose to provide Gallagher with the board process, which is typically reserved for officers. Under the review board, three of Gallagher’s SEAL peers will review a packet of information about his case, as well as Gallagher’s rebuttal statement.
The board will then make a recommendation to Green, who can choose to endorse it before sending it to the Navy’s Personnel Command for action. The process could likely take one month, one official said.
…Since 2011, 154 SEAL Tridents or Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman (SWCC) pins have been revoked for various reasons.
Navy Times excerpt
His pay grade restored by President Donald J. Trump on Friday, Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher has filed an inspector general’s complaint against the Navy’s top SEAL, accusing him of uttering contemptuous statements about the commander in chief.
In the works for four months, the move came hours before a Wednesday morning meeting with Naval Special Warfare superiors in California, who are expected to inform Gallagher that Naval Special Warfare commander Rear Adm. Collin Green has convened a Trident Review Board to take the coveted SEAL qualification pin away from the special operator.
Green seems to have mustered the support of his uniformed chain of command to administratively punish Gallagher, 40, even if it’s perceived as defiant to the White House.
“Chief of Naval Operations, Adm. Mike Gilday, supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green,” said Gilday’s spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, in an email to Navy Times.
Cmdr. Sarah Higgins, spokesperson for Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer, echoed that he also “supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Adm. Green.”
Declining to comment on the IG complaint filed against her command, Naval Special Warfare spokesperson Capt. Tamara Lawrence called allegations that Green uttered contemptuous words about the president “patently false.”
Lawyers for Gallagher and fellow SEAL Lt. Jacob X. “Jake” Portier told the Navy Times that Green and the Navy brass supporting this should resign or be fired.
“The president has spoken on the punishment of Eddie Gallagher,” said the SEAL’s civilian attorney, Timothy Parlatore, a former surface warfare officer. “A two-star admiral should not be stepping in to substitute the judgment of his commander in chief. “This is a terrible precedent to send and the commander in chief should take swift and decisive action against Rear Adm. Green.
“As for those in his chain of command who appear to be supporting Green, there needs to be a wholesale change in leadership. If Navy leadership can’t accept the commander in chief’s guidance, then they all should leave.
“There’s a long tradition in the military. You don’t rebel. You resign.”
…“Rear Adm. Green is undermining the office of the president of the United States,” Portier’s defense attorney, Jeremiah J. Sullivan III, told Navy Times. “Rear Adm. Green should be the first one to place his trident on the table and resign before he is fired.
“Flag officers cannot challenge the president. It is an act of insubordination and a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
End excerpts. Please read the entire Navy Times article at this link.
Gallgher’s IG complaint does not specify the contemptuous words Green is accused of uttering against President Trump. However it also notes a tweet by Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, the Navy’s Chief of Information, acknowledging Trump’s orders regarding Gallagher that was perceived as insulting to Trump and Gallagher, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.”
Excerpts from Gallagher’s IG complaint:
IIX. MISCONDUCT AFTER POTUS INTERVENTION
On Friday, November 14, 2019, the Commander in Chief announced that he was restoring SOC Gallagher’s rank. While this was a controversial decision, certain elements become quite open in their contempt for the President’s exercise of his lawful authority.
First, CHINFO sent out an undeniably contemptuous and snarky tweet, “As the Commander in Chief, the President has the authority to restore Special Warfare Operator First Class Gallagher to the pay grade of E-7. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it.” This tweet was universally received as being a passive aggressive statement of disagreement, but grudging acceptance. If any subordinate officer passed on orders from their superior in this fashion, he would be immediately fired – “As the commander of this ship, the CO has the authority to order us to do maintenance on our equipment. We acknowledge his order and are implementing it”
Second, and more sinister, is that we have learned that on Monday morning, November 18, 2019, RADM Green assembled a staff meeting and made clear his contempt of the President and disagreement with the President’s decision, before declaring that he intended to remove SOC Gallagher’s trident anyway.
The White House could not have been clearer in its statement:
“Before the prosecution of Special Warfare Operator First Class Edward Gallagher, he had been selected for promotion to Senior Chief, awarded a Bronze Star with a “V” for valor, and assigned to an important position in the Navy as an instructor. Though ultimately acquitted on all of the most serious charges, he was stripped of these honors as he awaited his trial and its outcome. Given his service to our Nation, a promotion back to the rank and pay grade of Chief Petty Officer is justified.”
It is incomprehensible to understand how, given the Commander in Chief’s clear guidance that he felt the punishment was too severe for such a minor offense, how RAMD Green thinks it is appropriate to countermand this and increase the punishment. Moreover, no flag officer should ever be speaking contemptuously of the Commander in Chief in front of his subordinates.
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The President can fire him. And he should. Time to purge the Military of ALL rino, deepstaters & oblunder appointees.
Dont need to do that. Trump just needs to order that the case be dismissed and to return the SEALS in question back to regular duty. If I were Trump, I'd also make it clear from the very top to the very bottom of the command chain that that these SEAL's are not to be screwed with again without talking to the president first. I'd also let the 3 SEAL's in question know they are on a short leash--be on your best behavior because if you do anything stupid and embarrassing---the president isnt going to fix it again.
Their military careers are likely ruined. They can stay in but they don’t get to pick their duty stations. My guess is all of them are on countdown to terminal leave.
(11-20-2019 10:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Their military careers are likely ruined. They can stay in but they don’t get to pick their duty stations. My guess is all of them are on countdown to terminal leave.
Probably true---but they shouldnt be. Like I said, I'd have them reinstated to their previous rank and duty posts and let it be known that they are not to jacked with unless they truly do something seriously wrong. I'd also let the soldiers know this was their one and only second chance---dont screw it up. I also might make sure the guy who brought them up for review after reinstatement is knocked back to guarding a dock at midnight in Alaska.
DJT will not be allowing that
Quote:"The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher's Trident Pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
(11-21-2019 03:18 PM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]DJT will not be allowing that
Quote:"The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher's Trident Pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
lol....I voted for Trump grudgingly---mainly becasue I would rather anyone other than Hillary selecting the next SC judge. I knew Trump would be crass in office and his style would rub people the wrong way---but I figured he'd was the least bad of a choice between a liberal Democrat Hillary and a conservative Democrat in Trump. Ive really come to enjoy the fact that Trump thinks much more like me than I would have ever believed in 2016 when I pulled the lever. He's actually governing much more like a true conservative than I wold have ever expected. Other than the deficit---I have had very few gripes with his major decisions.
(11-21-2019 03:18 PM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]DJT will not be allowing that
Quote:"The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher's Trident Pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
There is a reason the lifers in DC hate this guy.
Green is obviously in contempt of Trumps order and his underhanded ruling of taking Gallaghers pin after he was cleared of charges and was restored to his previous position Green should come before his CinC for subordination and sent to Timbuktu or Tuhli Greenland minus a parka.
Trump should clean house.
(11-20-2019 10:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Their military careers are likely ruined. They can stay in but they don’t get to pick their duty stations. My guess is all of them are on countdown to terminal leave.
Well, Gallagher is retiring. Here is the first one on terminal leave.