Their best win is over an unranked 4-loss ISU team but aside from a loss to TT (4-6) they also lost to a 4-loss Texas. SMU's resume is just better no matter how you slice it. 1 loss to #18 Memphis in a tough conference vs 3 losses. This P5 stuff gets rediculous. We're clearly just as good of a conference as several lower P5s but don't get any more respect than the G4. Something has to change because this is fundamentally unfair and prejudice and just outright un-American (no pun intended).
Makes absolutely, no sense at all.
Why applies to several 3 loss schools who have no good wins - hopefully Tex is gone for the rest of the year. Better yet why do several schools lose & move up (at least that is how CBS shows the latest AP & coaches polls)
(11-17-2019 12:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]Why applies to several 3 loss schools who have no good wins - hopefully Tex is gone for the rest of the year. Better yet why do several schools lose & move up (at least that is how CBS shows the latest AP & coaches polls)
I totally get it for some of the SEC teams, but by every metric used, the American is leaps and bounds above the Big XII conference, this season. It's really not even close. Baylor hadn't played a soul, until last night. Texas was severely overrated(no shocker there) K-State was being propped up for beating OU, and then lost to a bad West Virginia team yesterday and now has 4 losses. But I bet they'll find a way to let Iowa State into the top 25 with 3 or 4 losses this week. Everybody loves little horse face (Matt Campbell) though I'm still looking for some proof of why so called experts think he's the next up and coming coach. Nothing about the offensive system he runs is innovative or creative at all. He sits in the shotgun without any variation in formation. On a side note, it is incredible to see the wide range of formations Norvell runs, despite being labeled a spread guy. He runs the Ace (2 tight and two wides from under center) and the I formation more times than so called pro style schemes. Truly an innovator, and that's all for my rant.
DON'T ASK SILLY QUESTIONS
We are 9-1
Our only loss came with less than a TD difference AT a possible top 15 team
We haven't played a single FCS team
We've won at a Big XII school that will proabably go bowling
We have one of the top offenses in the country and lead the country in sacks
CLEARLY WE DON'T BELONG
(11-17-2019 01:18 PM)SMUleopold Wrote: [ -> ]DON'T ASK SILLY QUESTIONS
We are 9-1
Our only loss came with less than a TD difference AT a possible top 15 team
We haven't played a single FCS team
We've won at a Big XII school that will proabably go bowling
We have one of the top offenses in the country and lead the country in sacks
CLEARLY WE DON'T BELONG
Yep, none of us do, we should know our place & accept it - no like it.
Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
(11-17-2019 11:52 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]Their best win is over an unranked 4-loss ISU team but aside from a loss to TT (4-6) they also lost to a 4-loss Texas. SMU's resume is just better no matter how you slice it. 1 loss to #18 Memphis in a tough conference vs 3 losses. This P5 stuff gets rediculous. We're clearly just as good of a conference as several lower P5s but don't get any more respect than the G4. Something has to change because this is fundamentally unfair and prejudice and just outright un-American (no pun intended).
You're asking this question as if you think the AP Poll voters believe the AAC is on par with the P5 conferences.
Naval got the ship beat out of them by the drunkin Irish, therefore you all get punished.
(11-17-2019 01:18 PM)SMUleopold Wrote: [ -> ]DON'T ASK SILLY QUESTIONS
We are 9-1
Our only loss came with less than a TD difference AT a possible top 15 team
We haven't played a single FCS team
We've won at a Big XII school that will proabably go bowling
We have one of the top offenses in the country and lead the country in sacks
CLEARLY WE DON'T BELONG
lol seriously
(11-17-2019 02:27 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: [ -> ]Naval got the ship beat out of them by the drunkin Irish, therefore you all get punished.
That wasn't a good look, for sure. Really needed Navy to put up a fight in that one.
(11-17-2019 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 01:58 PM)mikeinoki Wrote: [ -> ]Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
They aren't ahead in either poll that just came out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
They are ahead in the only one that matters, CFP. OK St was #23 & won. SMU was unranked and didn't play. They will keep OK St ahead of SMU guaranteed. That's what is disturbing and unjust. It's the only poll that counts. When it comes out on Tuesday ESPN will put those rankings in front of school names. I think SMU gets in but only because Navy and some others lost. Egregiously, they will still be behind schools like Ok St & App St despite a superior resume.
(11-17-2019 03:39 PM)B easy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 01:58 PM)mikeinoki Wrote: [ -> ]Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
They aren't ahead in either poll that just came out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
They are ahead in the only one that matters, CFP. OK St was #23 & won. SMU was unranked and didn't play. They will keep OK St ahead of SMU guaranteed. That's what is disturbing and unjust. It's the only poll that counts. When it comes out on Tuesday ESPN will put those rankings in front of school names. I think SMU gets in but only because Navy and some others lost. Egregiously, they will still be behind schools like Ok St & App St despite a superior resume.
So the answer to the OP question is, because the CFP Selection Committee has only one token "G5" rep out of 13 members. That is the only answer.
(11-17-2019 03:39 PM)B easy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 01:58 PM)mikeinoki Wrote: [ -> ]Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
They aren't ahead in either poll that just came out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
They are ahead in the only one that matters, CFP. OK St was #23 & won. SMU was unranked and didn't play. They will keep OK St ahead of SMU guaranteed. That's what is disturbing and unjust. It's the only poll that counts. When it comes out on Tuesday ESPN will put those rankings in front of school names. I think SMU gets in but only because Navy and some others lost. Egregiously, they will still be behind schools like Ok St & App St despite a superior resume.
Well, when somebody posts a poll TODAY griping about the poll rankings, most of us assume they are talking about the polls that came out TODAY, lol.
The CFP poll was 5 days ago. Why gripe now? Two more days to the new one.
(11-17-2019 04:50 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:39 PM)B easy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 01:58 PM)mikeinoki Wrote: [ -> ]Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
They aren't ahead in either poll that just came out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
They are ahead in the only one that matters, CFP. OK St was #23 & won. SMU was unranked and didn't play. They will keep OK St ahead of SMU guaranteed. That's what is disturbing and unjust. It's the only poll that counts. When it comes out on Tuesday ESPN will put those rankings in front of school names. I think SMU gets in but only because Navy and some others lost. Egregiously, they will still be behind schools like Ok St & App St despite a superior resume.
Well, when somebody posts a poll TODAY griping about the poll rankings, most of us assume they are talking about the polls that came out TODAY, lol.
The CFP poll was 5 days ago. Why gripe now? Two more days to the new one.
Because we already know what's going to happen?
Well, OSU did beat Tulsa at Tulsa by 3 scores. SMU needed 3 overtimes and 2 or 3 missed FG's at home to get past us.
(11-17-2019 04:50 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:39 PM)B easy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2019 01:58 PM)mikeinoki Wrote: [ -> ]Call me dumb, but what ranking are you looking at? I'm not seeing OK State ranked ahead anywhere.
They aren't ahead in either poll that just came out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
They are ahead in the only one that matters, CFP. OK St was #23 & won. SMU was unranked and didn't play. They will keep OK St ahead of SMU guaranteed. That's what is disturbing and unjust. It's the only poll that counts. When it comes out on Tuesday ESPN will put those rankings in front of school names. I think SMU gets in but only because Navy and some others lost. Egregiously, they will still be behind schools like Ok St & App St despite a superior resume.
Well, when somebody posts a poll TODAY griping about the poll rankings, most of us assume they are talking about the polls that came out TODAY, lol.
The CFP poll was 5 days ago. Why gripe now? Two more days to the new one.
Because we already know what's going to happen?
(11-18-2019 03:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, OSU did beat Tulsa at Tulsa by 3 scores. SMU needed 3 overtimes and 2 or 3 missed FG's at home to get past us.
So you're on record that a 3 loss OK St should be ranked above a 1 loss SMU whose only loss is to #18 Memphis? That is P5 media logic if I've ever seen it.
(11-18-2019 04:18 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2019 03:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, OSU did beat Tulsa at Tulsa by 3 scores. SMU needed 3 overtimes and 2 or 3 missed FG's at home to get past us.
So you're on record that a 3 loss OK St should be ranked above a 1 loss SMU whose only loss is to #18 Memphis? That is P5 media logic if I've ever seen it.
If OSU has played a tougher strength of schedule then possibly they should be. It's not P5 media logic. It's just logic. There's a lot of factors to considered that I don't get paid to look at though.