(11-20-2019 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]What other choice would I have? I fully expect the R's to ignore their oath of office. I'm certainly not going to start a revolution over it.
So if they don't rule to your liking they are ignoring their oath of office. Unless the democrats come up with something more than hearsay then I would have to think they are following their oath to support the constitution if they throw it out.
IMO, with what I've seen in testimony so far, I think they'd be ignoring their oath of office to not vote to convict. Especially if we never hear from Rudy, et. al. If they aren't deposed, that is clear evidence to me of obstruction of an authorized congressional investigation.
Rudy et al. should only agree to appear if the Repubs are allowed to call their witnesses. Have an investigation or don't. This whole thing is theater.
IIRC, the 2 witnesses that testified yesterday morning were called by the GOP.
nope....their 3 were turned down...just heard it about an 1 hr. ago...
go ahead and impeach on hearsay....then let's go the senate....
if that happens, it's _hite hit the fan time fonzies...
(11-20-2019 03:03 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: [ -> ]So if they don't rule to your liking they are ignoring their oath of office. Unless the democrats come up with something more than hearsay then I would have to think they are following their oath to support the constitution if they throw it out.
IMO, with what I've seen in testimony so far, I think they'd be ignoring their oath of office to not vote to convict. Especially if we never hear from Rudy, et. al. If they aren't deposed, that is clear evidence to me of obstruction of an authorized congressional investigation.
Rudy et al. should only agree to appear if the Repubs are allowed to call their witnesses. Have an investigation or don't. This whole thing is theater.
IIRC, the 2 witnesses that testified yesterday morning were called by the GOP.
nope....their 3 were turned down...just heard it about an 1 hr. ago...
go ahead and impeach on hearsay....then let's go the senate....
if that happens, it's _hite hit the fan time fonzies...
I was wrong to say morning. It was the afternoon. Morrison and Volker were GOP witnesses. Although I'm not totally sure they were actually called by GOP. Still trying to confirm that.
Quote:As Tim Morrison and Kurt Volker recount their concerns about the parallel track of diplomacy in Ukraine meant to surface dirt on the Bidens, it’s worth remembering they are the witnesses Republicans — not Democrats — wanted to hear from in the impeachment inquiry.
(11-20-2019 03:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]IMO, with what I've seen in testimony so far, I think they'd be ignoring their oath of office to not vote to convict. Especially if we never hear from Rudy, et. al. If they aren't deposed, that is clear evidence to me of obstruction of an authorized congressional investigation.
Rudy et al. should only agree to appear if the Repubs are allowed to call their witnesses. Have an investigation or don't. This whole thing is theater.
IIRC, the 2 witnesses that testified yesterday morning were called by the GOP.
nope....their 3 were turned down...just heard it about an 1 hr. ago...
go ahead and impeach on hearsay....then let's go the senate....
if that happens, it's _hite hit the fan time fonzies...
I was wrong to say morning. It was the afternoon. Morrison and Volker were GOP witnesses. Although I'm not totally sure they were actually called by GOP. Still trying to confirm that.
Quote:As Tim Morrison and Kurt Volker recount their concerns about the parallel track of diplomacy in Ukraine meant to surface dirt on the Bidens, it’s worth remembering they are the witnesses Republicans — not Democrats — wanted to hear from in the impeachment inquiry.
good luck....this one I'm sure about unless someone on the gop committee lied when he stated, "we wanted 3 and they were turned down"....I can't remember who said it....I was fk'n with Smoke (dog) and chomping down...
(11-19-2019 06:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]He seemed very proud of that.
Frankly---Im becoming more and more convinced that our intelligence services might not be all that great.
We learned today that Peter Strojks wife was able to get into his phone and discover the affair with Lisa Page, complete with pictures. I'm pretty sure China and Russia are more tech savvy than his wife.
K, fine.
No proof without pics, though.
You really didn’t mean that did you?
Good call. Didn't say I'd look!
Just submit them to evidence, ma'am. Nothing compromising there in the least.
And this is the guy suing to get his job and clearances back?
(11-20-2019 03:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]IMO, with what I've seen in testimony so far, I think they'd be ignoring their oath of office to not vote to convict. Especially if we never hear from Rudy, et. al. If they aren't deposed, that is clear evidence to me of obstruction of an authorized congressional investigation.
Rudy et al. should only agree to appear if the Repubs are allowed to call their witnesses. Have an investigation or don't. This whole thing is theater.
IIRC, the 2 witnesses that testified yesterday morning were called by the GOP.
nope....their 3 were turned down...just heard it about an 1 hr. ago...
go ahead and impeach on hearsay....then let's go the senate....
if that happens, it's _hite hit the fan time fonzies...
I was wrong to say morning. It was the afternoon. Morrison and Volker were GOP witnesses. Although I'm not totally sure they were actually called by GOP. Still trying to confirm that.
Quote:As Tim Morrison and Kurt Volker recount their concerns about the parallel track of diplomacy in Ukraine meant to surface dirt on the Bidens, it’s worth remembering they are the witnesses Republicans — not Democrats — wanted to hear from in the impeachment inquiry.
Its worth noting that they are the only 3 of 17 that the Republicans requested that the Democrats allowed...so yeah---lets not pretend that they are not witnesses that the Democrats clearly wanted to hear from as well.
Thinking outside the box. Dems write up their articles of impeachment. Have some more theatre in the judicial committee. Claim Trump is dirty. Nancy calls for vote on impeachment.
Here’s where it gets good.
No republicans vote for impeachment. Just enough deamoncrats from Trump won districts vote with the republicans to deny impeachment. Nancy and her buddies had their vote so they can go back home and crow about voting to impeach. Meanwhile the deamoncrats in Trump owned districts can go back and say it just wasn’t right thus possibly saving their asses. No trial in the senate that will destroy their narrative and they will have the perceived indictment of Trump to campaign on and keep their rabid base foaming at the mouth because Trump got away with it.
Trump will get away with it. Dems already know this. BUT HE WILL BE IMPEACHED! You can't let Trump go unchecked and just go around lying and doing "swamp" stuff in the White House. So you have to impeach him because if the next Dem president that get elected does half the chit Trump has done, y'all Repubs will have him or her assassinated.
Real talk. Y'all Repubs know Trump is a suck ass president that runs the country like a fantasy draft drunkfest. Why y'all continue to support this azz-clown is the real joke. It's like most of you Repubs don't have anything better to do but live in the past, blame Obama for everything that is wrong with the country, and ask about the 30,000 missing emails from Clinton.
What about the President talking calling his boy that he claims he barely knows on his unsecured Motorola Razor phone? Even Putin was probably laughing at that stupid chit as they ease dropped on the conversation. Trump tell lies when he's sleep. He's a habitual liar!!! He can't help himself but to lie, lie some more, then have a final nightcap by telling a lie.
(11-20-2019 07:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking outside the box. Dems write up their articles of impeachment. Have some more theatre in the judicial committee. Claim Trump is dirty. Nancy calls for vote on impeachment.
Here’s where it gets good.
No republicans vote for impeachment. Just enough deamoncrats from Trump won districts vote with the republicans to deny impeachment. Nancy and her buddies had their vote so they can go back home and crow about voting to impeach. Meanwhile the deamoncrats in Trump owned districts can go back and say it just wasn’t right thus possibly saving their asses. No trial in the senate that will destroy their narrative and they will have the perceived indictment of Trump to campaign on and keep their rabid base foaming at the mouth because Trump got away with it.
I could easily see Nancy make that happen now.....what would be funny as hell if it did, is if one or two outgoing 'phants voted yea and screwed up her count.....
I want it to go to the senate, dammit...
I want as many dem senator seats tied up in all this for mos. instead of campaigning...
that's the key advantage DJT has as the unchallenged incumbent instead of the looney bin still fighting for a nomination...
ol' boy will be doing a sellout show a week while the micks are licking their collective arses...
(11-20-2019 08:05 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Trump will get away with it. Dems already know this. BUT HE WILL BE IMPREACHED! You can't let Trump go unchecked and just go around lying and doing "swamp" stuff in the White House. So you have to impeach him because if the next Dem president that get elected does half the chit Trump has done, y'all Repubs will have him or her assassinated.
Real talk. Y'all Repubs know Trump is a suck ass president that runs the country like a fantasy draft drunkfest. Why y'all continue to support this azz-clown is the real joke. It's like most of you Repubs don't have anything better to do but live in the past, blame Obama for everything that is wrong with the country, and ask about the 30,000 missing emails from Clinton.
What about the President talking calling his boy that he claims he barely knows on his unsecured Motorola Razor phone? Even Putin was probably laughing at that stupid chit as they ease dropped on the conversation. Trump tell lies when he's sleep. He's a habitual liar!!! He can't help himself but to lie, lie some more, then have a final nightcap by telling a lie.
(11-20-2019 08:05 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Real talk. Y'all Repubs know Trump is a suck ass president that runs the country like a fantasy draft drunkfest. Why y'all continue to support this azz-clown is the real joke.
Because he's better than the alternatives. The enemy of my enemies is my friend.
(11-20-2019 08:05 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: [ -> ]Trump will get away with it. Dems already know this. BUT HE WILL BE IMPREACHED! You can't let Trump go unchecked and just go around lying and doing "swamp" stuff in the White House. So you have to impeach him because if the next Dem president that get elected does half the chit Trump has done, y'all Repubs will have him or her assassinated.
Real talk. Y'all Repubs know Trump is a suck ass president that runs the country like a fantasy draft drunkfest. Why y'all continue to support this azz-clown is the real joke. It's like most of you Repubs don't have anything better to do but live in the past, blame Obama for everything that is wrong with the country, and ask about the 30,000 missing emails from Clinton.
What about the President talking calling his boy that he claims he barely knows on his unsecured Motorola Razor phone? Even Putin was probably laughing at that stupid chit as they ease dropped on the conversation. Trump tell lies when he's sleep. He's a habitual liar!!! He can't help himself but to lie, lie some more, then have a final nightcap by telling a lie.
So what's he going to be impeached on? Hurting the feelings or talking sh*t isn't exactly a high crime.
This clown show was supposed to be behind shut doors and damaging information leaked to the press, but it's now in the public eye.
You want to talk about jokes.. Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi both stated this wouldn't go through unless it was bi-partisan... More Dems voted against it than Republicans voted for it.. There was more bi-partisan for not proceeding than proceeding... This is where it's going to destroy any chance of a Democratic President in 2020... Trump will run as a victim of the swamp and a hero of the people.. He may not be the President we need, but he's the one we deserve... Hop on the train because it's only getting faster.
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