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If Memphis went 12-1, wouldn't you guys think that would be enough to pass an undefeated MWC team?


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I've watched a lot of Boise lately - including right this very second. There is no doubt that the AAC is far tougher than the MWC. Far tougher. It comes down to how much the CFP committee values the much tougher conference. We know they value it for the actual CFP (see SEC with multiple teams, versus ACC or PAC or even UCF). It's unclear how they look at G5.
Conference is better but I don’t think so...if BSU remain unbeaten

We probably have the best shot as a one loss team because we can avenge our loss
It’s wishful thinking if Boise is unbeaten.
But I think Boise stumbles at least once.
Better be pulling for ULM against App St. this week too. They are undefeated and she would ranked this week as well. If they knock off South Carolina after they beat Georgia they would move up significantly. All have a win over North Carolina. ULM is 2-0 and in first in the SBC West and App is 2-0 and in 1st place in the SBC East. Should be a good game and could have significance in Memphis’ chances.
We had our chances for a spectacular season

We still very much have our chances for a great season

Big game with Tulane Saturday. Navy, Tulane, Cincy, Temple all with only 1 season loss, SMU with none. And we play Tulane, Tulsa and SMU over the next three weeks, two at home. Go 3-0 and all feels great
Probably not. Boise has cache and respect. That alone would be tough to overcome.
The powers that be might just put Boise vs Memphis. That way they are doing two teams a favor while avoiding any possible embarrassment.
(10-13-2019 10:46 AM)Claw Wrote: [ -> ]The powers that be might just put Boise vs Memphis. That way they are doing two teams a favor while avoiding any possible embarrassment.

They can't do that this year because there is only one at-large spot, and it is the access spot. But they have done that in the past. Course, it was BCS era, not CFP. But that's how they think.
Win out and have the convo

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God no.

Boise is now #14 and Memphis is #29.
Yeah I mean they set that precedent with freaking Western Michigan.
It’s an interesting question and somewhat debatable.
I doubt they’d do it but it would be a lot more interesting conversation than a lot of the same old rehashed crap they talk about regarding CFP 90% of the time.
So if Memphis runs the table (or Tulane or Temple or 1 loss SMU) does the beating 4-5 ranked teams and in some cases a P5 win not overcome Boise beating nobody ? Isn’t this the same P5 argument vs G5 ? But now we are using a P6 vs G4. At what point do we jump them just like a 1 loss P5 jumps us in the CFP. These are honest questions, is it possible to use Espns Ranking tool (CFI or whatever it’s called)
I agree, and all of this is moot until the cfp poll comes out
(10-13-2019 10:36 PM)Greenwavedrownsacat Wrote: [ -> ]So if Memphis runs the table (or Tulane or Temple or 1 loss SMU) does the beating 4-5 ranked teams and in some cases a P5 win not overcome Boise beating nobody ? Isn’t this the same P5 argument vs G5 ? But now we are using a P6 vs G4. At what point do we jump them just like a 1 loss P5 jumps us in the CFP. These are honest questions, is it possible to use Espns Ranking tool (CFI or whatever it’s called)

Bottom line is the poll lead is too much to overcome.

And what 4 or 5 ranked teams will Memphis beat? SMU and Cinci are the only two left and I have a pretty strong feeling SMU is going to lose at least one of their next two. If Memphis beats Tulane, then Tulane is dunzo as polls re concerned.

And if the shoe were on the other foot and Memphis had an iffy schedule, ran the table while having a significant poll lead, and then was jumped the final week by a 1 loss team, folks here would lose their sh!t.
(10-13-2019 03:02 PM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]Win out and have the convo

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I know, right? I’m not saying we can’t do it, but we may have 3 teams left on our schedule that are better than Temple.
(10-13-2019 08:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I mean they set that precedent with freaking Western Michigan.

What precedent did they set? In 2016 Western Michigan was a 13-0 G5 champion. All the others had multiple losses.
(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2019 10:36 PM)Greenwavedrownsacat Wrote: [ -> ]So if Memphis runs the table (or Tulane or Temple or 1 loss SMU) does the beating 4-5 ranked teams and in some cases a P5 win not overcome Boise beating nobody ? Isn’t this the same P5 argument vs G5 ? But now we are using a P6 vs G4. At what point do we jump them just like a 1 loss P5 jumps us in the CFP. These are honest questions, is it possible to use Espns Ranking tool (CFI or whatever it’s called)

Bottom line is the poll lead is too much to overcome.

And what 4 or 5 ranked teams will Memphis beat? SMU and Cinci are the only two left and I have a pretty strong feeling SMU is going to lose at least one of their next two. If Memphis beats Tulane, then Tulane is dunzo as polls re concerned.

And if the shoe were on the other foot and Memphis had an iffy schedule, ran the table while having a significant poll lead, and then was jumped the final week by a 1 loss team, folks here would lose their sh!t.
I agree with you, but let's speak hypothetical. Say SMU beats Temple Saturday (note: I don't think they will) and then beats Houston. They should be borderline top 15 team when they head here. Let's say Memphis wins by 2 touchdowns. That would bump Memphis up a decent bit.

Now let's say Cincinnati comes to Memphis with just 1 loss and will more than likely be borderline top 15, but squarely inside the top 20. Let's say Memphis wins by 10 and then turn around the following week Cincy should still be ranked and Memphis beats them again in the championship game by 2 td's.

That's 3 wins against ranked teams in the last month or so of the season. It would definitely make it a discussion for the committee. I still think Boise gets the nod if all that happens, but there would be some discussion about flipping them, but in the end it would be extremely harsh to have a 1 loss team jump an undefeated team.
If the conference keeps playing football the way it is, these things will work themselves out.

We need to keep playing the long game instead of worrying about his year's bowl game.
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